race start vs brake torquing 0-60 times
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even when the car was first delivered i timed it at the same 3.9-4.0 seconds. i challenge, no... DARE someone to make a video of them doing 0-60 in 3.5 with their STOCK E63 S... and no using a hill to cheat lol, or backing up into a giant rubber band or something haha
so far i have yet to see ANY stock 2014+ E63 publish that time on video
oh and btw i weigh about 195 lbs, maybe this time would be understandable if chris christie was making the video but he's not...
so far i have yet to see ANY stock 2014+ E63 publish that time on video
oh and btw i weigh about 195 lbs, maybe this time would be understandable if chris christie was making the video but he's not...
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I had a liberty mutual module on my obd port to get a discount for safe driving, and I could go to a website to read my 0 to 60 and my acceleration times in general, and I recorded a 0 to 63 mph in 3.8 seconds...
For what it's worth I still received a 7% discount though I'm not exactly sure why!!
For what it's worth I still received a 7% discount though I'm not exactly sure why!!
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been like 3 months now and still nobody has stepped up lol... the car will not do 0-60 in ≤3.5 sec, just wont do it unless a gtr is behind pushing it haha
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I think sub 4 looks do-able.
What tyres and what psi are you guys running? My guess is that a nice half throttle launch at ~25psi on very sticky rubber (Pilot Sport or Eagle F1 etc) should get more of a 'flying start' and then the car can take care of the rest.
Are you using sport mode too? You need a little bit of slip and then control that yourself, rather than have TRC come on and bog the power. I find mine (6.2) under the right conditions and with a flying launch will hit a very low 4s time to 60. Kinda worn my tyres down now though
What tyres and what psi are you guys running? My guess is that a nice half throttle launch at ~25psi on very sticky rubber (Pilot Sport or Eagle F1 etc) should get more of a 'flying start' and then the car can take care of the rest.
Are you using sport mode too? You need a little bit of slip and then control that yourself, rather than have TRC come on and bog the power. I find mine (6.2) under the right conditions and with a flying launch will hit a very low 4s time to 60. Kinda worn my tyres down now though
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When mags time a car its off there data unit on the car. It could be you are actually doing 60mph but speedo servo cant keep up?
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I still can't even figure out how to get it into race start lol....after motor is warmed up and oil and trans are all warm I've tried still
Switched from S+ to RS didn't light up while holding down the brake.
Anything I'm doing wrong?
Switched from S+ to RS didn't light up while holding down the brake.
Anything I'm doing wrong?
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2005 E55 AMG, 1999 Lexus LS 400
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with your left foot the brake needs to be ALL the way down, and you need to press the traction control button once so the orange 'sport' lights up on the dash. also wheel needs to be in the straight ahead position.
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I think sub 4 looks do-able.
What tyres and what psi are you guys running? My guess is that a nice half throttle launch at ~25psi on very sticky rubber (Pilot Sport or Eagle F1 etc) should get more of a 'flying start' and then the car can take care of the rest.
Are you using sport mode too? You need a little bit of slip and then control that yourself, rather than have TRC come on and bog the power. I find mine (6.2) under the right conditions and with a flying launch will hit a very low 4s time to 60. Kinda worn my tyres down now though
What tyres and what psi are you guys running? My guess is that a nice half throttle launch at ~25psi on very sticky rubber (Pilot Sport or Eagle F1 etc) should get more of a 'flying start' and then the car can take care of the rest.
Are you using sport mode too? You need a little bit of slip and then control that yourself, rather than have TRC come on and bog the power. I find mine (6.2) under the right conditions and with a flying launch will hit a very low 4s time to 60. Kinda worn my tyres down now though
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I had a liberty mutual module on my obd port to get a discount for safe driving, and I could go to a website to read my 0 to 60 and my acceleration times in general, and I recorded a 0 to 63 mph in 3.8 seconds...
For what it's worth I still received a 7% discount though I'm not exactly sure why!!
For what it's worth I still received a 7% discount though I'm not exactly sure why!!
Just guessing, but your proffesion likely helped! 👍
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The best 1/4 mile stock time I've seen from magazine test is 11.5 @ 123 mph (either Car&Driver or Road and Track ?) with 0-60 in 3.2 sec
My best totally stock pass on the 1/4 mile track as been 11.485 @ 123.45 with a 1/8 mile time of 7.471 @ 96.59 and 1.81 for 60ft, using launch control. Time slip attached.
On the internet you can find Racing Calculators to convert your timeslip into HP- Torque- 0 to 60 times. Drag racers use this alot to get all the info from their actual race time.
Wallace Racing is well known and has Racing Calculators to evaluate your 0-60 mph time based on the 1/8 time and speed. When I put my numbers in this calculator, it comes up with 0-60 mph calculated at 2.88 sec.
I dont claim this is the absolute truth, but it's a scientific formula to move an object with time and speed factors.
Link to 0-60 Calculator:
http://wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php
Link to all calculators :
http://wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm
My best totally stock pass on the 1/4 mile track as been 11.485 @ 123.45 with a 1/8 mile time of 7.471 @ 96.59 and 1.81 for 60ft, using launch control. Time slip attached.
On the internet you can find Racing Calculators to convert your timeslip into HP- Torque- 0 to 60 times. Drag racers use this alot to get all the info from their actual race time.
Wallace Racing is well known and has Racing Calculators to evaluate your 0-60 mph time based on the 1/8 time and speed. When I put my numbers in this calculator, it comes up with 0-60 mph calculated at 2.88 sec.
I dont claim this is the absolute truth, but it's a scientific formula to move an object with time and speed factors.
Link to 0-60 Calculator:
http://wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php
Link to all calculators :
http://wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm
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The best 1/4 mile stock time I've seen from magazine test is 11.5 @ 123 mph (either Car&Driver or Road and Track ?)
My best totally stock pass on the 1/4 mile track as been 11.485 @ 123.45 with a 1/8 mile time of 7.471 @ 96.59 and 1.81 for 60ft, using launch control. Time slip attached.
On the internet you can find Racing Calculators to convert your timeslip into HP- Torque- 0 to 60 times. Drag racers use this alot to get all the info from their actual race time.
Wallace Racing is well known and has Racing Calculators to evaluate your 0-60 mph time based on the 1/8 time and speed. When I put my numbers in this calculator, it comes up with 0-60 mph calculated at 2.88 sec.
I dont claim this is the absolute truth, but it's a scientific formula to move an object with time and speed factors.
Link to 0-60 Calculator:
http://wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php
Link to all calculators :
http://wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm
My best totally stock pass on the 1/4 mile track as been 11.485 @ 123.45 with a 1/8 mile time of 7.471 @ 96.59 and 1.81 for 60ft, using launch control. Time slip attached.
On the internet you can find Racing Calculators to convert your timeslip into HP- Torque- 0 to 60 times. Drag racers use this alot to get all the info from their actual race time.
Wallace Racing is well known and has Racing Calculators to evaluate your 0-60 mph time based on the 1/8 time and speed. When I put my numbers in this calculator, it comes up with 0-60 mph calculated at 2.88 sec.
I dont claim this is the absolute truth, but it's a scientific formula to move an object with time and speed factors.
Link to 0-60 Calculator:
http://wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php
Link to all calculators :
http://wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm
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nothing to do with traction. its 4matic and has 285 rears and 255 fronts, there is always MORE than enough traction. like seriously never even a chirp. and yes you have to use sport mode in order for race start to work. even when holding the button to fully turn off traction control it never even remotely makes any wheel slippage
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My stock E63 wagon which is heavier than your sedan runs 3.9 with a half a tank of gas. I'll take a vid with my Vbox. Your E does seem slower than it should be. What are you using to measure data?
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The best 1/4 mile stock time I've seen from magazine test is 11.5 @ 123 mph (either Car&Driver or Road and Track ?) with 0-60 in 3.2 sec
My best totally stock pass on the 1/4 mile track as been 11.485 @ 123.45 with a 1/8 mile time of 7.471 @ 96.59 and 1.81 for 60ft, using launch control. Time slip attached.
On the internet you can find Racing Calculators to convert your timeslip into HP- Torque- 0 to 60 times. Drag racers use this alot to get all the info from their actual race time.
Wallace Racing is well known and has Racing Calculators to evaluate your 0-60 mph time based on the 1/8 time and speed. When I put my numbers in this calculator, it comes up with 0-60 mph calculated at 2.88 sec.
I dont claim this is the absolute truth, but it's a scientific formula to move an object with time and speed factors.
Link to 0-60 Calculator:
http://wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php
Link to all calculators :
http://wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm
My best totally stock pass on the 1/4 mile track as been 11.485 @ 123.45 with a 1/8 mile time of 7.471 @ 96.59 and 1.81 for 60ft, using launch control. Time slip attached.
On the internet you can find Racing Calculators to convert your timeslip into HP- Torque- 0 to 60 times. Drag racers use this alot to get all the info from their actual race time.
Wallace Racing is well known and has Racing Calculators to evaluate your 0-60 mph time based on the 1/8 time and speed. When I put my numbers in this calculator, it comes up with 0-60 mph calculated at 2.88 sec.
I dont claim this is the absolute truth, but it's a scientific formula to move an object with time and speed factors.
Link to 0-60 Calculator:
http://wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php
Link to all calculators :
http://wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm
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While I don't have a video or the car anymore, but my stock CLS63-S ran 3.6 0-60 and 3.2 after the renntech tune, both V-box verified.
My stock E63 wagon which is heavier than your sedan runs 3.9 with a half a tank of gas. I'll take a vid with my Vbox. Your E does seem slower than it should be. What are you using to measure data?
My stock E63 wagon which is heavier than your sedan runs 3.9 with a half a tank of gas. I'll take a vid with my Vbox. Your E does seem slower than it should be. What are you using to measure data?
then again some actual vbox results should probably be obtained before i go making a scene, because as was said above the needle might simply not be keeping up with the rate of acceleration
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i've just been using (and maybe this has been my problem) the number of frames it takes for the speedometer to reach 60 from 0. when i'll put a clip into the timeline, i'll set the input at right after the brake is released, and the output right when the needle hits 60. filmed at 30 frames/second, it'll take, say... 115 frames to hit 60, 115/30 ≈ 3.8 seconds
then again some actual vbox results should probably be obtained before i go making a scene, because as was said above the needle might simply not be keeping up with the rate of acceleration
then again some actual vbox results should probably be obtained before i go making a scene, because as was said above the needle might simply not be keeping up with the rate of acceleration
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fwiw, best i could get is 3.70 on dynolicous app, though i have read its on average 7.5% slower than reality with sometimes as much as 20% slower... given those correction factors would put my 0-60 anywhere from 2.96 to 3.4.... I just have renntech tune for now
it recorded 60ft at 1.85 on the app for that run, so with correction factor would be 1.48 to 1.72
I dont put much faith in any of those numbers... i need to get a vbox or actually get my car to the track one day finally
it recorded 60ft at 1.85 on the app for that run, so with correction factor would be 1.48 to 1.72
I dont put much faith in any of those numbers... i need to get a vbox or actually get my car to the track one day finally
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