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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 11:30 PM
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Has anyone gotten a 3.4 second 0-60?

Have any of you actually gotten a 3.4 second 0-60 on a stock 2014-2016 E63 S 4Matic like Motor Trend says? I've only recorded a 0-60 once and it was after an hour of driving enthusiastically, if you will, and flooring it constantly. I had my friend use a timer in the passenger seat and I just told him when it hit 60. We timed it at 4.3 which is way off from the 3.4 from Motor Trend and 3.3 and 3.2 from Car and Driver and Road and Track, respectively. Could this be just the weather and other factors? It was about 60 degrees and dry outside. Also, the car was on Yokohama Advan All Season ultra high performance tires so that has some to do with it but could tires really be adding .9 seconds? Is part of it that the speedometer lags behind the actual speed? We were reading based off the needle. I did not use race start and I either had traction control on or in sport and did not use brake torquing. Thanks.
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 11:54 PM
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A member here ran a stock 1/4 of 11.5, and if you do some basic "track math" the 0-60mph works out to be about 2.8-3.4 seconds

The car mags instruments are more accurate I think than the speedometer in your car
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 10:19 AM
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The car mags testing is also always done on a prepped track...
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sean3315
I did not use race start and I either had traction control on or in sport and did not use brake torquing. Thanks.
This is a large part of your explanation. Most reports from the dragstrip suggest that brake torqueing is the fastest start from a standstill. In any event, either race start or torque braking is significantly faster than simply flooring it.
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 02:11 PM
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The one and I think only time I had an unsanctioned race with someone in my E63S was racing a guy on a crotch rocket; I used race start and he hooked up very well and we hung neck and neck until I let off at 70 ... not one person gained or lost anything.. he was always in my passenger front window the whole time...

true story, just saying
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 10:01 PM
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yes its sorta irritating, i've never recorded anything under like 3.85, even using race start


thats the best it'll do
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 10:14 PM
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 11:56 PM
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Your methodology for achieving accurate 0-60 times is highly flawed, leaving any data recorded to be nonsense. Of course you are recording slow times, you are relying on a inaccurate speedo and a human to record the time. When we are talking about tenths of a second you need instrumentation to accurately record the delta. Race logic sells a Vbox for $500 that can give you the results of what the car is actually running.

FWIW, my stock 2014 CLS63-S ran 3.6 0-60 Vbox verified while using race start.
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 01:09 AM
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Your methodology for achieving accurate 0-60 times is highly flawed, leaving any data recorded to be nonsense. Of course you are recording slow times, you are relying on a inaccurate speedo and a human to record the time. When we are talking about tenths of a second you need instrumentation to accurately record the delta. Race logic sells a Vbox for $500 that can give you the results of what the car is actually running.

FWIW, my stock 2014 CLS63-S ran 3.6 0-60 Vbox verified while using race start.
just so you know i didn't just stop the timer where i thought it reached 60, i went frame by frame as scientifically as i could. i had the timer start right after the race start "active" appears and stopped it right when the needle hit 60. ok forget about the speedometer, given that it shifts into 3rd at 60, it's still shifting at 3.9, and if anything that road has just a hint of a downward grade.

but i guess until there's a vbox it doesn't "count"
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 10:09 AM
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stroock6394
but i guess until there's a vbox it doesn't "count"
You are correct, it would not "count" towards 0-60 times with accurate bearing on the vehicles actual performance.
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 03:20 PM
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I have a vbox sport..nice little tool..here's a run from my heavy slug ..wearing winter grips
Nice results for that heavy beast
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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 12:01 PM
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With stock tires and my Renntech tune/sport mufflers my best quarter mile results on a prepped track (Atco) were 11.1 seconds at 127.56 mph.
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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 06:06 PM
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With stock tires and my Renntech tune/sport mufflers my best quarter mile results on a prepped track (Atco) were 11.1 seconds at 127.56 mph.
do you think downpipes are needed for consistent sub 11 times?
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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 08:34 PM
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do you think downpipes are needed for consistent sub 11 times?
For sure. If your want 10.9s you need to do catless downpipes
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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 09:04 PM
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I hope my e63 with the AMS Alpha 9 tune and Renntech downpipes can hit the 10.7@135mph and 0-60@3.2. The numbers sure looks good for a daily driver and the competition I've had encounter.

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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 11:56 PM
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Hmm I'm a bit disappointed , I was planning on high 10's seconds car , but seems like not easy .
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 09:38 AM
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Hmm I'm a bit disappointed , I was planning on high 10's seconds car , but seems like not easy .
A few of us have been very close to 10's with very little work. My CLS63 with just a tune and R888's on the rear ran 11.14. I think with better track conditions and down pipes I could have managed a 10.9. SDG1871 ran 11.1 with stock tires, I know I dropped a tenth with better tires, so on a good day he can run 10.9 with R888's slapped on.

I think the best bet for the E63 guys to hit 10's is to tune/downpipes and really sticky tires.
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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A few of us have been very close to 10's with very little work. My CLS63 with just a tune and R888's on the rear ran 11.14. I think with better track conditions and down pipes I could have managed a 10.9. SDG1871 ran 11.1 with stock tires, I know I dropped a tenth with better tires, so on a good day he can run 10.9 with R888's slapped on.

I think the best bet for the E63 guys to hit 10's is to tune/downpipes and really sticky tires.
I currently own S6 2015 st 3 , I was about to pick up E63S this week , now I'm confused with 4.0 I was getting constant 11.0 127mph on street tires at 4400 ft elevation , with 0 problems with the car , no I'm reading the forum and now I'm not sure if I want that switch , but the original plan was to get W4 kit .
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I currently own S6 2015 st 3 , I was about to pick up E63S this week , now I'm confused with 4.0 I was getting constant 11.0 127mph on street tires at 4400 ft elevation , with 0 problems with the car , no I'm reading the forum and now I'm not sure if I want that switch , but the original plan was to get W4 kit .
Sounds like you should stick with your Audi, you'll only be disappointed with the e63S

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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 10:21 AM
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Sounds like you should stick with your Audi, you'll only be disappointed with the e63S
does any one running weistec w3 kit on the forum ?
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 10:39 AM
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does any one running weistec w3 kit on the forum ?
If they are, I haven't read about it

Most are running renntech, ams, or eurocharged or rebellion tunes

Renntech is seemingly the most popular

I haven't yet read about weistec biturbo owners but clearly that doesn't mean they don't exist
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 10:52 AM
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If they are, I haven't read about it

Most are running renntech, ams, or eurocharged or rebellion tunes

Renntech is seemingly the most popular

I haven't yet read about weistec biturbo owners but clearly that doesn't mean they don't exist
I was using weistec before and I was very happy with M156 motor , AMS alpha 9 sounds similar to weistec w3 , I came to find some reviews , seems like I won't find them here
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I was using weistec before and I was very happy with M156 motor , AMS alpha 9 sounds similar to weistec w3 , I came to find some reviews , seems like I won't find them here
I'm sure the Weistec stage 3 package will certainly deliver, but no anecdotal information here yet. Maybe you could be the first

Have you considered the RS7 with a tune? I've seen them run lighting fast 1/4 times for tune only.

What times do you want the car to run?
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Originally Posted by ced357
I'm sure the Weistec stage 3 package will certainly deliver, but no anecdotal information here yet. Maybe you could be the first

Have you considered the RS7 with a tune? I've seen them run lighting fast 1/4 times for tune only.

What times do you want the car to run?
The quarter-mile times in our cars are limited by the comparatively slow shifting transmission and a launch control that is extremely protective of the transmission. The car will simply not allow you to launch at 4-5,000 RPMs for maximum power. It just won't launch much above 2500 RPMs or it will bog to protect the transmission-- whether you use race start or brake torquing. We found from over 50 launches at Atco that brake torquing and letting the brake go just before 3k RPMS let to better quarter mile results than race start.

Audi has no such problem. My friend with nothing more than a tune and countless exhaust running MS109s regularly does 10.3s in his APR tuned Miltek catless exhaust RS7. From a roll the fight is much more even.
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