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Old Nov 12, 2022 | 06:55 PM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
Dynos be damned ... let's see dragy metrics
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 01:01 AM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
607 AWHP
669 AWTQ
Canned "Stage 2" 93 tune from Boosted Benz and ECC.
Downpipes, BB intake

Reading that others are making 100lbs more torque. Tuner recommended keeping curve flat and safe for DD and focus on a more aggressive E tune for the track. What do you guys think of that and this curve?

https://youtu.be/Rj9VU9QzZtY

no tcu tune?
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
607 AWHP
669 AWTQ
Canned "Stage 2" 93 tune from Boosted Benz and ECC.
Downpipes, BB intake

Reading that others are making 100lbs more torque. Tuner recommended keeping curve flat and safe for DD and focus on a more aggressive E tune for the track. What do you guys think of that and this curve?

https://youtu.be/Rj9VU9QzZtY

That torque curve looks nice and flat, no spike in low end and then no falling down on top end. Really looking forward to see what Dragy results your car can produce like 1/4 mile and 60-130mp/h and I can also compare those to my car. For now I think the USA dynos shows some more power than in Europe. Nice to see that your car is up and running strong!

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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PekkaH
That torque curve looks nice and flat, no spike in low end and then no falling down on top end. Really looking forward to see what Dragy results your car can produce like 1/4 mile and 60-130mp/h and I can also compare those to my car. For now I think the USA dynos shows some more power than in Europe. Nice to see that your car is up and running strong!
100%, nice torque curve, no spike and no falling down at top end.
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
no tcu tune?
Yes ECC stage 1 is applied too

New limits
1st 800nm 590 ft-lbs
2nd 900nm 663 ft-lbs
3rd and up 1100nm 811 ft-lbs

Line pressure increased by 15% from 2.5k rpm to redline in every gear.
Shift points are not modified.

I *really* hope the brake boost thing is applied too - will find out soon as it stops raining!


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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert AMG
100%, nice torque curve, no spike and no falling down at top end.
Originally Posted by PekkaH
That torque curve looks nice and flat, no spike in low end and then no falling down on top end. Really looking forward to see what Dragy results your car can produce like 1/4 mile and 60-130mp/h and I can also compare those to my car. For now I think the USA dynos shows some more power than in Europe. Nice to see that your car is up and running strong!
Originally Posted by billvp218
It makes sense to me. You're never going to be WOT with the car at 2500-4000rpm anyway, you'd downshift.
Thank you everyone gives me some confidence. Now it has to stop raining before temps fall below zero so I can dragy. Winter tires need to go on … but … must … dragy … the pain!
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 04:35 PM
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Off-the-shelf Eurocharged stage 1 map that I've been running for 4 years now.

550 whp and 700 wtq



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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:57 PM
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Off-the-shelf Eurocharged stage 1 map that I've been running for 4 years now.

550 whp and 700 wtq


Solid numbers on a Mustang dyno

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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 09:22 PM
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If you ever have hp and torque that do not cross at 5252, please ask them why and have them adjust so they intersect at the correct point. Why 5252? HP = (torque x RPM)/5252
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
If you ever have hp and torque that do not cross at 5252, please ask them why and have them adjust so they intersect at the correct point. Why 5252? HP = (torque x RPM)/5252
it's just that the graphed scale for tq and hp is different - they perhaps have a dynamic scaling

I generally hate different scale graphs, even aside from dynos
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Originally Posted by billvp218
it's just that the graphed scale for tq and hp is different - they perhaps have a dynamic scaling

I generally hate different scale graphs, even aside from dynos
It should never be anything other than hp/torque crossing at 5252. Again, if not, ask that they remove whatever manipulation they've applied and correct the scaling.
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Old Nov 20, 2022 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
It should never be anything other than hp/torque crossing at 5252. Again, if not, ask that they remove whatever manipulation they've applied and correct the scaling.
Nothing wrong with the graph, torque and HP are scaled differently. Look at the numbers on the side.
Graphs like this are used when the HP and torque numbers are vastly different from each other (like torque being 100+ higher than HP across a part of the range).
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Not saying they are not correct numbers but why do that? Yes, on the graph they are scaled differently but again it makes no sense to do so. Post the correct graph where they intersect at the right point so you know the numbers were not manipulated to look bigger than they are.

HP is a calculation of torque over time which is RPM. HP = (torque x RPM) / 5252. That's the way it calculates HP so why change the scale? Again, the only reason to do this is so it looks more powerful = optics.
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