Carbon ceramic brakes... They're OK!
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Carbon ceramic brakes... They're OK!
When I was shopping for my pre-owned E63, I wasn't looking to get the carbon ceramic brakes (they were far and few between on the pre-owned market anyways). I will rarely (if ever) track the car and it will be my daily driver.
Well, the E63 I ended up buying had the CCBs and I was a bit spooked by some of the internet chatter about the downsides of this expensive upgrade. I'm here to reassure anyone else going through what I went through that these CCBs are fantastic! Granted, it hasn't been too cold here in Utah so we'll see about true cold weather performance, but so far they bite immediately and take no prisoners. I have not noticed any significant noise yet.
We'll see how things go as I put more miles behind the wheel, but thus far, I've been happy and pleasantly surprised.
Well, the E63 I ended up buying had the CCBs and I was a bit spooked by some of the internet chatter about the downsides of this expensive upgrade. I'm here to reassure anyone else going through what I went through that these CCBs are fantastic! Granted, it hasn't been too cold here in Utah so we'll see about true cold weather performance, but so far they bite immediately and take no prisoners. I have not noticed any significant noise yet.
We'll see how things go as I put more miles behind the wheel, but thus far, I've been happy and pleasantly surprised.
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I've been through 2 Québec winters so far with the CCB, never heard a squeek yet and always fantastic braking power ! Great on track days also !
Anytime I let someone drive my car, first thing I do is to warn them about the pure strenght of those brakes and to be very gentle with the way they press on the pedal as if there was an egg under it.
Anytime I let someone drive my car, first thing I do is to warn them about the pure strenght of those brakes and to be very gentle with the way they press on the pedal as if there was an egg under it.
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According to MT. The CCB vs. non CCB, it stopped 2 feet less, but great for track, which I don't do even with my tunes.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2012-...mg-first-test/
I don't know the numbers for facelift models, but when I was researching for my 2012 E63, I got everything including the B&O and P30. Not saying CCB are not good, just not a bang for the bucks option for me.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2012-...mg-first-test/
I don't know the numbers for facelift models, but when I was researching for my 2012 E63, I got everything including the B&O and P30. Not saying CCB are not good, just not a bang for the bucks option for me.
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According to MT. The CCB vs. non CCB, it stopped 2 feet less, but great for track, which I don't do even with my tunes.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2012-...mg-first-test/
I don't know the numbers for facelift models, but when I was researching for my 2012 E63, I got everything including the B&O and P30. Not saying CCB are not good, just not a bang for the bucks option for me.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2012-...mg-first-test/
I don't know the numbers for facelift models, but when I was researching for my 2012 E63, I got everything including the B&O and P30. Not saying CCB are not good, just not a bang for the bucks option for me.
While I still don't think CCBs are a great "bang for the buck", it shocks me how many E63s are loaded up with Carbon fiber exterior trim, interior trim and engine covers (for a total cost of $7-8K) that offer absolutely no weight savings and is a visual oxymoron considering what a fat pig the E63 is. Compared to all of those cars, it was pretty easy for me to tick the CCB box when ordering since I was almost forced to buy one of those carbon fiber-laden cars off the showroom floor.
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60-0 tests are primarily about tire traction and weight more than the pads/rotors. It's likely that if MT tested both of those cars on the same day at the same location, the CCBs may not be better at all. However, they can be useful not only for tracks, but also canyon runs (where you often have a long down hill section with many turns) and repeated 100mph to 60mph braking (perhaps on a freeway).
While I still don't think CCBs are a great "bang for the buck", it shocks me how many E63s are loaded up with Carbon fiber exterior trim, interior trim and engine covers (for a total cost of $7-8K) that offer absolutely no weight savings and is a visual oxymoron considering what a fat pig the E63 is. Compared to all of those cars, it was pretty easy for me to tick the CCB box when ordering since I was almost forced to buy one of those carbon fiber-laden cars off the showroom floor.
While I still don't think CCBs are a great "bang for the buck", it shocks me how many E63s are loaded up with Carbon fiber exterior trim, interior trim and engine covers (for a total cost of $7-8K) that offer absolutely no weight savings and is a visual oxymoron considering what a fat pig the E63 is. Compared to all of those cars, it was pretty easy for me to tick the CCB box when ordering since I was almost forced to buy one of those carbon fiber-laden cars off the showroom floor.
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It's a personal opinion, but I think with the CCB and you don't track it, it would not make a noticeable difference. For me, I keep my cars 2-3 years max and trade it in for someone else, I don't know how the previous owner/leaser drove the car, may he was a track car driver or a Grandpa that has never had a speeding ticket for 40 years, but as a wear and tear option. I might only get 12 months out of the CCB before it all needs to be replace with or without warranty. That was why I choice to opted out of finding a CCB E63.
I got every option that an E63 had to offer except the CCB. Am I going to loose a race after I tune it weather on acceleration or braking, I do have my confidence against a CCB optioned E63.
Just my opinion.
I got every option that an E63 had to offer except the CCB. Am I going to loose a race after I tune it weather on acceleration or braking, I do have my confidence against a CCB optioned E63.
Just my opinion.
60-0 tests are primarily about tire traction and weight more than the pads/rotors. It's likely that if MT tested both of those cars on the same day at the same location, the CCBs may not be better at all. However, they can be useful not only for tracks, but also canyon runs (where you often have a long down hill section with many turns) and repeated 100mph to 60mph braking (perhaps on a freeway).
While I still don't think CCBs are a great "bang for the buck", it shocks me how many E63s are loaded up with Carbon fiber exterior trim, interior trim and engine covers (for a total cost of $7-8K) that offer absolutely no weight savings and is a visual oxymoron considering what a fat pig the E63 is. Compared to all of those cars, it was pretty easy for me to tick the CCB box when ordering since I was almost forced to buy one of those carbon fiber-laden cars off the showroom floor.
While I still don't think CCBs are a great "bang for the buck", it shocks me how many E63s are loaded up with Carbon fiber exterior trim, interior trim and engine covers (for a total cost of $7-8K) that offer absolutely no weight savings and is a visual oxymoron considering what a fat pig the E63 is. Compared to all of those cars, it was pretty easy for me to tick the CCB box when ordering since I was almost forced to buy one of those carbon fiber-laden cars off the showroom floor.
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It's a personal opinion, but I think with the CCB and you don't track it, it would not make a noticeable difference. For me, I keep my cars 2-3 years max and trade it in for someone else, I don't know how the previous owner/leaser drove the car, may he was a track car driver or a Grandpa that has never had a speeding ticket for 40 years, but as a wear and tear option. I might only get 12 months out of the CCB before it all needs to be replace with or without warranty. That was why I choice to opted out of finding a CCB E63.
I got every option that an E63 had to offer except the CCB. Am I going to loose a race after I tune it weather on acceleration or braking, I do have my confidence against a CCB optioned E63.
Just my opinion.
I got every option that an E63 had to offer except the CCB. Am I going to loose a race after I tune it weather on acceleration or braking, I do have my confidence against a CCB optioned E63.
Just my opinion.
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Not sure if the CCB has the same rotors, but if it has something to do with CCB, ouch.
At lease your warranty is covered.
Best of luck.
At lease your warranty is covered.
Best of luck.
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Yes cracks are there out of the box when they are new, its ok. A better solution of course, is to send your rotors to a company that will redo the whole process of the carbon rotor. It costs less and the new compound is much stronger than the oem,copes better with sand and dirt from the winter roads. Costs 1000 euros a side. But mine got changed by warranty so
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Yes cracks are there out of the box when they are new, its ok. A better solution of course, is to send your rotors to a company that will redo the whole process of the carbon rotor. It costs less and the new compound is much stronger than the oem,copes better with sand and dirt from the winter roads. Costs 1000 euros a side. But mine got changed by warranty so
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They will last for the lifetime of the car. If you live in area where the climate is rainy you will have a faster pad wear then usual. The pads dry the rotors but wear is x3 when the rotors are wet.
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60-0 tests are primarily about tire traction and weight more than the pads/rotors. It's likely that if MT tested both of those cars on the same day at the same location, the CCBs may not be better at all. However, they can be useful not only for tracks, but also canyon runs (where you often have a long down hill section with many turns) and repeated 100mph to 60mph braking (perhaps on a freeway).
