E63S Dyno Tuned at Powerhaus Performance
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E63S Dyno Tuned at Powerhaus Performance
Just wanted to share my experience with those who are looking to get their cars tuned. Powerhaus Performance is a shop in NJ who can dyno tune these cars on the spot and they do a great job! Very professional and knowledgeable people there and they work on cars of all kind. Below is the dyno graph and a YouTube video of my car on the dyno. Car is bone stock.
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Yup, they have a low reading dyno and this is tuned on 93. I know a lot of these tuners play games with their dyno graphs and show before on a 2012 E63 bi turbo and then the after with race gas so the gains look huge. These are real gains on the same fuel, same dyno, same car, same mods (none), no gimmicks.
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generally Dyno Dynamics and mustang dynos are pretty close and both heartbreakers compared to dynojets but in reality dyno comparison is only really good when its same car, same dyno, same inputs to compare changes from changes made to car
http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...no-comparison/
Dyno Dash Round-up (SAE J1349)
Fame Mustang 292.7
Pina Dyno Dynamics 318.6
Drift-Office Dynojet 312.5
Speed Factory Dynapack 324.4
English Racing Dynojet 315.9
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That's why I only posted gains not actual numbers. Was same dyno, same operator, same time of the day, same car ;-)
I gotta say that is a real nice cluster of numbers, very very close indeed! (except for the mustang dyno number) I am actually impressed. Not what I experienced when I dynoed my mustang some years back between 3 different shops
you cant really compare different dynos at different shops as its all in the input... i have seen dyno dynamics show better numbers vs mustangs dynos plenty of times and even better than dynojets on rare occasions.... there was a fun article on same evo car brought to all the different dynos in the same area with no changes to the car and mustang was lowest and dyno dynamics was actually higher than dynojet, which goes against what we know about dynojets being high reading... just goes to show how much operator input goes into some of the outputs
generally Dyno Dynamics and mustang dynos are pretty close and both heartbreakers compared to dynojets but in reality dyno comparison is only really good when its same car, same dyno, same inputs to compare changes from changes made to car
http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...no-comparison/
Dyno Dash Round-up (SAE J1349)
Fame Mustang 292.7
Pina Dyno Dynamics 318.6
Drift-Office Dynojet 312.5
Speed Factory Dynapack 324.4
English Racing Dynojet 315.9
generally Dyno Dynamics and mustang dynos are pretty close and both heartbreakers compared to dynojets but in reality dyno comparison is only really good when its same car, same dyno, same inputs to compare changes from changes made to car
http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...no-comparison/
Dyno Dash Round-up (SAE J1349)
Fame Mustang 292.7
Pina Dyno Dynamics 318.6
Drift-Office Dynojet 312.5
Speed Factory Dynapack 324.4
English Racing Dynojet 315.9
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That's why I only posted gains not actual numbers. Was same dyno, same operator, same time of the day, same car ;-)
I gotta say that is a real nice cluster of numbers, very very close indeed! I am actually impressed. Not what I experienced when I dynoed my mustang some years back between 3 different shops
I gotta say that is a real nice cluster of numbers, very very close indeed! I am actually impressed. Not what I experienced when I dynoed my mustang some years back between 3 different shops
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the previous naming was performance package or 030 or something along those lines, but there was never a badge to state it, like the S
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Yes, but kponti was talking about his 2012 making more power and torque and my thought is it's because he has a RWD model.
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thats one of the reason you dont see any 9 sec M157's yet even though there are a few at 800+whp
the trq limits seem to be able to be removed, but only on a custom basis from your tuner when you get a turbo/tranny upgrade from GAD, weistec or renntech and havent seen anyone on the forum with those except occasionally vasily w/ his GAD custom tuned e63s
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the imbedded trq limitations are on all M157 722.9 trannys, not just awd
thats one of the reason you dont see any 9 sec M157's yet even though there are a few at 800+whp
the trq limits seem to be able to be removed, but only on a custom basis from your tuner when you get a turbo/tranny upgrade from GAD, weistec or renntech and havent seen anyone on the forum with those except occasionally vasily w/ his GAD custom tuned e63s
thats one of the reason you dont see any 9 sec M157's yet even though there are a few at 800+whp
the trq limits seem to be able to be removed, but only on a custom basis from your tuner when you get a turbo/tranny upgrade from GAD, weistec or renntech and havent seen anyone on the forum with those except occasionally vasily w/ his GAD custom tuned e63s
My assumption is because our cars are fixed at a 1/3 of the power/torque going to the front wheels, the front driveshaft may not be able to support the extra torque? This is the same issue that a lot of heavily modded GT-Rs go through. The difference that benefits the GT-R in that matter is that by the time the car gets to it's peak torque, it shifts 90%+ of it to the rear wheels.
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i think your tuner meant all M157's will show +100 more trq tuned vs non-tuned no matter who tunes it.... not "rwd m157 will have +100 more trq than awd m157", because that's definitely not true considering AWD m157's are putting out ~715 trq on dynojets and havent seen any M157's put out 100 trq more than that on tune only
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i think your tuner meant all M157's will show +100 more trq tuned vs non-tuned no matter who tunes it.... not "rwd m157 will have +100 more trq than awd m157", because that's definitely not true considering AWD m157's are putting out ~715 trq on dynojets and havent seen any M157's put out 100 trq more than that on tune only
We were talking about my friend's tuned CLS63 (that was tuned by a different company) and I was asking this tuner if my car would be able to keep up with my friends' with his tune and this is what he told me:
"you cannot compare the AWD 63’s to the RWD 63’s. The AWD’s will be missing about 100 TRQ…. No matter who tunes it."
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He's not my tuner... but he's the tuner for one of the very popular Mercedes aftermarket companies and they are a vendor on here.
We were talking about my friend's tuned CLS63 (that was tuned by a different company) and I was asking this tuner if my car would be able to keep up with my friends' with his tune and this is what he told me:
"you cannot compare the AWD 63’s to the RWD 63’s. The AWD’s will be missing about 100 TRQ…. No matter who tunes it."
We were talking about my friend's tuned CLS63 (that was tuned by a different company) and I was asking this tuner if my car would be able to keep up with my friends' with his tune and this is what he told me:
"you cannot compare the AWD 63’s to the RWD 63’s. The AWD’s will be missing about 100 TRQ…. No matter who tunes it."
there is a good article on this on benz boost with lots of dyno's... AWD and RWD dyno same.... only advantage RWD has is above 100 mph due to driveline efficiency, not due to +100 torque
also here is tune/dp AWD m157 running 10.85 @ 129
http://dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz-C...lip-23728.html
and for fair comparison tune/dp RWD m157 10.90@ 128
http://dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz-C...lip-23728.html
awd and rwd seem pretty equal to me, definitely doesnt look like +100 trq on the rwd
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I'd guess that 10 second RWD CLS has drag slicks.
Edit: yup, slicks. http://youtu.be/qCv1YQMJWHU
Also don't forget the AWD models have some minor changes to the engine as well (additional intercooler heat exchanger, isolated intercooler cooling circuit)
Edit: yup, slicks. http://youtu.be/qCv1YQMJWHU
Also don't forget the AWD models have some minor changes to the engine as well (additional intercooler heat exchanger, isolated intercooler cooling circuit)
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