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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 04:34 PM
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Understood. What I was meaning is this. The car started off at a normal dynojet reading 534awhp/561awtq SAE (what most if not all E63s read on dynojets). I do not think you can just take the end result 575whp/ 757wtrq and multiply it by some factor. The dyno has been calibrated to read dynojet numbers already, there is no 855rwtq involved here or you will have to say the car started with 633rwtq STOCK
that was my main point, that either it wasnt a mustang dyno or, if it was a mustang, then this mustang dyno's settings must of been changed to make it produces dynojet "like" numbers (to not dissappoint the uniformed customers that are used to hearing their friends ref high dynojet #'s), since all the other mustang dyno numbers for tune only M157's have been more in the 520'ish whp range /620 wtrq range
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 07:04 PM
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that was my main point, that either it wasnt a mustang dyno or, if it was a mustang, then this mustang dyno's settings must of been changed to make it produces dynojet "like" numbers (to not dissappoint the uniformed customers that are used to hearing their friends ref high dynojet #'s), since all the other mustang dyno numbers for tune only M157's have been more in the 520'ish whp range /620 wtrq range
Also I would think that 757 on the drivetrain would significantly decrease its life
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 08:12 PM
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Also I would think that 757 on the drivetrain would significantly decrease its life
These drivetrains are not being changed for the turbo upgraded Renntech cars are they?
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 09:45 PM
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These drivetrains are not being changed for the turbo upgraded Renntech cars are they?
That's a good point, no, I don't think so
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Old Apr 17, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
that was my main point, that either it wasnt a mustang dyno or, if it was a mustang, then this mustang dyno's settings must of been changed to make it produces dynojet "like" numbers (to not dissappoint the uniformed customers that are used to hearing their friends ref high dynojet #'s), since all the other mustang dyno numbers for tune only M157's have been more in the 520'ish whp range /620 wtrq range
Guys--to be clear--my numbers are from the SAME Mustang dyno (COBB's) pre-tune and post-tune.
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Old Apr 17, 2016 | 01:50 PM
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Guys--to be clear--my numbers are from the SAME Mustang dyno (COBB's) pre-tune and post-tune.
Bigger picture point is this

You have at least what I think is the most aggressive tune that I have read about on the forum for this m157.... That's impressive, looking forward to your track times
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Old Apr 17, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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Could the drive train handle these tuned numbers in the long run?
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Old Apr 17, 2016 | 06:19 PM
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Could the drive train handle these tuned numbers in the long run?
I don't know. Mine is a lease that is up in July '17 so I really don't care about longevity. But it's a good question.
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Old Apr 17, 2016 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Bigger picture point is this

You have at least what I think is the most aggressive tune that I have read about on the forum for this m157.... That's impressive, looking forward to your track times
I will. Hopefully the second week of May. Drives just like stock unless you are WOT. Then it is a beast!
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Old Apr 17, 2016 | 07:15 PM
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I will. Hopefully the second week of May. Drives just like stock unless you are WOT. Then it is a beast!
Awesome thanks man

This is another reason I won't buy anything beyond a new or lightly used amg .. The scenario that it's been tuned and then flashed back to stock at end of lease and it gets cpo'd but dealer doesn't know it was tuned ... Then when there's a failure I may have to eat the cost
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Old Apr 18, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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Awesome thanks man

This is another reason I won't buy anything beyond a new or lightly used amg .. The scenario that it's been tuned and then flashed back to stock at end of lease and it gets cpo'd but dealer doesn't know it was tuned ... Then when there's a failure I may have to eat the cost
I can't blame you. I know these cars are stout, but that would give me pause too. Frankly, this is the first German vehicle I've modified in "significant" fashion. I've gone from '08 335i --> '08 M3 --> '08 S5 --> '13 RS 5 --> '14 S6 --> '14 E63. The S6 was the first one of the bunch that I modified, but all I did was an intake and cat-back. I've always been worried about warranty issues, but Eurocharged's warranty/insurance won me over.
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 03:28 PM
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Getting my Eurocharged tune early next week... if I can see numbers like that I'll be overjoyed. Not planning any physical performance upgrades beyond a new exhaust, just sticking with a tune. Also just bought a 7/100 extended warranty because I intend to keep the car that long. Not planning to track the car, or even push it that often -- just want the extra power for the occasional showoff or tricky traffic situation. I'm betting that "taking it easy" in that manner shouldn't have any adverse effect on longevity/reliability.
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Stereolab42
Getting my Eurocharged tune early next week... if I can see numbers like that I'll be overjoyed. Not planning any physical performance upgrades beyond a new exhaust, just sticking with a tune. Also just bought a 7/100 extended warranty because I intend to keep the car that long. Not planning to track the car, or even push it that often -- just want the extra power for the occasional showoff or tricky traffic situation. I'm betting that "taking it easy" in that manner shouldn't have any adverse effect on longevity/reliability.
We should race before and after tune.

I am on the Peninsula
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012 CCB E63
We should race before and after tune.

I am on the Peninsula
I might but want to at least pay lip service to the breakin period for the time being. It is painful but mentally I'm treating it as paying a kind of respect to the honorable Mr. Matthias Donis, who lovingly hand-built my engine.
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Stereolab42
I might but want to at least pay lip service to the breakin period for the time being. It is painful but mentally I'm treating it as paying a kind of respect to the honorable Mr. Matthias Donis, who lovingly hand-built my engine.
Let me know if you change your mind.
I have a stock RWD e63. Your AWD should get me out of the hole, but would be fun to see before and after tune difference!
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012 CCB E63
Let me know if you change your mind.
I have a stock RWD e63. Your AWD should get me out of the hole, but would be fun to see before and after tune difference!
Lmao he would pull you so hard, you would honestly give up. We're talking about 200 tq more!

My EC tuned CLS pulled a stock RWD CLS so hard 7 times in a row, that he actually thought something was wrong with his car.

EC's new updated tune makes 5-7% more power now. They are constantly and continuously making their tunes better.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 2012 CCB E63
Let me know if you change your mind.
I have a stock RWD e63. Your AWD should get me out of the hole, but would be fun to see before and after tune difference!
Got my tuned ECU back... absolute lightspeed on S/S+. It's just comical. And it's just going to get better since I told them to tune for my aftermarket exhaust which won't even be installed until next week (along with some other things). Thankfully Comfort mode is still reasonable otherwise stop-and-go traffic would be unbearable.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Stereolab42
Got my tuned ECU back... absolute lightspeed on S/S+. It's just comical. And it's just going to get better since I told them to tune for my aftermarket exhaust which won't even be installed until next week (along with some other things). Thankfully Comfort mode is still reasonable otherwise stop-and-go traffic would be unbearable.
When can I witness this
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Old Jul 31, 2016 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Stereolab42
Got my tuned ECU back... absolute lightspeed on S/S+. It's just comical. And it's just going to get better since I told them to tune for my aftermarket exhaust which won't even be installed until next week (along with some other things). Thankfully Comfort mode is still reasonable otherwise stop-and-go traffic would be unbearable.
Is there a DIY on how to remove the ECU and do the flash after you get it back from Eurocharged? I'm afraid to mess with the car on my own - but have heard it is fairly straightforward.
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Old Jul 31, 2016 | 08:37 AM
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Is there a DIY on how to remove the ECU and do the flash after you get it back from Eurocharged? I'm afraid to mess with the car on my own - but have heard it is fairly straightforward.
open the hood
pup the top cover with builder name
pull the ECU up
disconnect 2 connectors on the ECU
done .
30 seconds no tools needed
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Old Jul 31, 2016 | 10:38 PM
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open the hood
pup the top cover with builder name
pull the ECU up
disconnect 2 connectors on the ECU
done .
30 seconds no tools needed
You don't have to disconnect ground first ?
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Old Jul 31, 2016 | 11:10 PM
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You don't have to disconnect ground first ?
No , never on any car , I pulled hundreds of ecu's , newer destroyed one .
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I prefer to disconnect negative terminal first when messing with certain electronics especially ECUs. I do know that if you wait long enough, car goes to sleep.
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Old Dec 14, 2016 | 01:30 PM
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I actually had mine in for service recently. Turns out one of my spark plugs was cracked. Anyway, though my SA knows about the tune (but doesn't say anything), he forgot to tell the techs NOT to update my software. Turns out there was a brand new update and they flashed over my EC tune.

I just popped the ECU off, mailed it to EC, and had it back a few days later. Plugged it back in and she's back in BEAST MODE. Was simple. I did not disconnect a battery terminal.
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Originally Posted by Res Ipsa
I actually had mine in for service recently. Turns out one of my spark plugs was cracked. Anyway, though my SA knows about the tune (but doesn't say anything), he forgot to tell the techs NOT to update my software. Turns out there was a brand new update and they flashed over my EC tune.

I just popped the ECU off, mailed it to EC, and had it back a few days later. Plugged it back in and she's back in BEAST MODE. Was simple. I did not disconnect a battery terminal.
Nice, are you running the stage 2 EC tune or the less aggressive one?

Also, what update did they do for you at the dealer?
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