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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 06:50 PM
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Sorry. Yet another tire thread!

So I need to replace front tires on the 11 E63. I have PSS's on there now, but thinking about going with Conti DW's this time.

This is in part due to the swaying issue I had in the rear with the new PSS's. I posted a few times on that issue. Interesting thing is that the sway issue seems to have disappeared after I got about 2 months of wear on the tires. So maybe I don't need to move away from the PSS's?

I know the car was originally equipped with Conti's and I really never had that sway issue until the PSS's went on the rear.

Basically, what I am after is if anyone can tell why I should not go with the Conti DW's. Wear would not be a reason because I only got about 11,000 out of my front PSS's.

Plus, the DW's are cheaper than the PSS's.

Anyway, thanks in advance.
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 07:19 PM
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why not contisportcontact 5p? thats what mine came with and love them! only tires i would change them for would be toyo r888s
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Old Apr 16, 2016 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
why not contisportcontact 5p? thats what mine came with and love them! only tires i would change them for would be toyo r888s
Originally Posted by Vrodman
So I need to replace front tires on the 11 E63. I have PSS's on there now, but thinking about going with Conti DW's this time.

This is in part due to the swaying issue I had in the rear with the new PSS's. I posted a few times on that issue. Interesting thing is that the sway issue seems to have disappeared after I got about 2 months of wear on the tires. So maybe I don't need to move away from the PSS's?

I know the car was originally equipped with Conti's and I really never had that sway issue until the PSS's went on the rear.

Basically, what I am after is if anyone can tell why I should not go with the Conti DW's. Wear would not be a reason because I only got about 11,000 out of my front PSS's.

Plus, the DW's are cheaper than the PSS's.

Anyway, thanks in advance.
I have contis too on my e63 and I really like them
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Old Apr 16, 2016 | 12:50 PM
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The extremecontact dw is a less "extreme" summer tire. I had a set on my saab after the OEM Pzeros and loved them. Quiet, comfortable, decent grip and great threadwear. A bit soft on the sidewalls.... Actually they feel a lot like the PSS (I had a set on my C63 and they are on the Saab right now, replacing the DW) less the amazing grip. Funny cause I just installed this morning the PSS on the AMG. Will report back on any swaying...
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Old Apr 17, 2016 | 01:25 PM
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There is no reason why you shouldn't go with Conti DW. Wet weather performance, as you might already know, is better than PSS. Personally, I would go for DWS for a longer wear.
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Old Apr 17, 2016 | 01:39 PM
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Vrod I'm glad your shimmy got better!

Hope all is well
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Old Apr 18, 2016 | 08:08 PM
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I have ExtremeContact DW's on my S65 and 5P's on my SL600. They are both great tires. The DW's are a little quieter and seem to hook up better on hard throttle launches. Both have maintained their characteristics until worn almost to the tread bars. Both are stable in wet weather and on the notoriously slick SoCal freeways during the first rain on oily roads after months of dry weather.
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I had one of my tires replaced under my tire wheel warranty so I have a brand-new right rear tire and mildly worn other three tires .... and I noticed when I go wide-open throttle on the highway there seems to be a bit of a shimmy in the rear, nothing serious but I can notice it ....I bet that's from my new tire gripping better
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
I had one of my tires replaced under my tire wheel warranty so I have a brand-new right rear tire and mildly worn other three tires .... and I noticed when I go wide-open throttle on the highway there seems to be a bit of a shimmy in the rear, nothing serious but I can notice it ....I bet that's from my new tire gripping better
If you're in that situation again, it may be worth the $25 to have TireRack shave down your new tire to the tread depth of your other 3. I just did that last month for my S4 so I don't damage my AWD differentials due to rolling diameter differences.
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffJumper
If you're in that situation again, it may be worth the $25 to have TireRack shave down your new tire to the tread depth of your other 3. I just did that last month for my S4 so I don't damage my AWD differentials due to rolling diameter differences.
Wow. I didn't know they can shave new tire down. Gosh, it's just too bad there is no way to just put the rubber down on the pavement--it will be more fun.

Finally someone mentioned about rolling diameter differences damaging AWD system!!! I have mentioned this several time because I read it somewhere before but never got an answer. I'm not sure if it will be the same for MB's AWD system, too. More reasons to stick with RWD.
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by otakki
Wow. I didn't know they can shave new tire down. Gosh, it's just too bad there is no way to just put the rubber down on the pavement--it will be more fun.

Finally someone mentioned about rolling diameter differences damaging AWD system!!! I have mentioned this several time because I read it somewhere before but never got an answer. I'm not sure if it will be the same for MB's AWD system, too. More reasons to stick with RWD.
for 4matics as long as total circumference of both tires are with 3% of one another then you are within 4matic designed tolerances.... anything past that can result in cooking the differential fluids in the transfer case over the long term with front and rear turning at different rates, but this would take a while

btw 4matic is pretty forgiving in terms of tolerance as subi's are more like 1.5% and bmw x drive is more like 1%.... some audis are as high as 5%, unless they have a open diff like a Audi 4000 Quattro which has no tolerance.... porsche cayenne has a 30% tolerance

fwiw, i have had 3 audi b5 s4's and ran tires with well beyond 5% difference (like when replacing rears but not front's when i used to be poor in college lol) with no problems and they all had over 200K miles when i sold them without ever cooking my awd transfer case.

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My 2015 S4 manual says that all of my tires should be within 3/32" of each other to avoid damage.
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I imagine the dealer would have told me if the old and new tires were out of range

That would kill the wheel tire warranty wouldn't it?
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
I imagine the dealer would have told me if the old and new tires were out of range

That would kill the wheel tire warranty wouldn't it?
depends on if you have a honest dealer or not dishonest dealer probably wouldnt even bother checking and would just let your transfer case implode and then blame you for having out of spec tires and not cover it under warranty
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
depends on if you have a honest dealer or not dishonest dealer probably wouldnt even bother checking and would just let your transfer case implode and then blame you for having out of spec tires and not cover it under warranty
Oh my. Or they probably don't even know.
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