Anyone have access to Mannheim auction numbers on E63 AMGS Wagons? 2014-2016?
SubscribeDo these apply in anyway to new cars (prior MY leftovers) as well?
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I have access, there are currently 7 2014's for sale, and one 2016. Is this what youre asking for?
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I have access, there are currently 7 2014's for sale, and one 2016. Is this what youre asking for?
Thank you. Well, I don't know how it really works, but does it also give asking prices of these, or actual sold prices on already auctioned vehicles?
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They give a wholesaler asking price, as well as a percent MMR, a price value calculated daily based on previous 13 months of actual worldwide sales (retail price point included in this too I believe). For this reason later 2016 models don't post an MMR, just asking price. If the auction is live I believe its posted live.
I just have access, not a regular user myself, so sorry for the short response!
I just have access, not a regular user myself, so sorry for the short response!
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I just have access, not a regular user myself, so sorry for the short response!
No, thanks, this is great.Originally Posted by 6speeddave
They give a wholesaler asking price, as well as a percent MMR, a price value calculated daily based on previous 13 months of actual worldwide sales (retail price point included in this too I believe). If the auction is live I believe its posted live. For this reason 2016 models don't post an MMR, just asking price.I just have access, not a regular user myself, so sorry for the short response!
Does it give any details, such as miles or options?
Are you able to post the wholesale asking prices and retail prices?
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Yes, of course. It gives a full description with photos posted and usually the damage reported if any. There is a templated list with information about each vehicle that is usually more detailed than your retail website (cars, auto trader, etc).
Each seller just posts one price, I believe its usually their bottom dollar.
Each seller just posts one price, I believe its usually their bottom dollar.
Sounds nice. How does one get an account? Pay subscription and/or have to be in the business?
https://www.manheim.com/
Just curious, what is the asking price range on those eight Wagons?
https://www.manheim.com/
Just curious, what is the asking price range on those eight Wagons?
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You need to have a dealers license and yes, there is a subscription. They also own OVE.com which is another wholesale auction platform.
They aren't wagons, did you ask for wagons? Im sorry, there are only 8 total E63's, all of which are sedans.
They aren't wagons, did you ask for wagons? Im sorry, there are only 8 total E63's, all of which are sedans.
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2014's range from 51-60k, 2016 is up near 90k. Amazing isn't it! Haha.
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Wow, well it is a pretty steep depreciation curve. So there are a lot of well-equipped Sedans (2014, < 30k mi) asking for $70k-$80k retail. Does that mean then that the line "sorry, we have too much money in this car" is just a bunch of BS?Originally Posted by 6speeddave
2014's range from 51-60k, 2016 is up near 90k. Amazing isn't it! Haha.
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No, every car is different however a dealer is also not going to net 0 on a deal.
I bought my 2010 E63 with 65,000 miles for 32k from an Audi dealership this summer. They wanted damn near 39k for the car. Just was patient and held my ground on my number until they cracked, meaning they could go lower of course. The car was on their lot for probably 80 days. It was off season down here and If I had to guess, they probably had 29k into the car.
Like I said, every situation is different so don't assume there is a $10,000 markup in every deal.
I bought my 2010 E63 with 65,000 miles for 32k from an Audi dealership this summer. They wanted damn near 39k for the car. Just was patient and held my ground on my number until they cracked, meaning they could go lower of course. The car was on their lot for probably 80 days. It was off season down here and If I had to guess, they probably had 29k into the car.
Like I said, every situation is different so don't assume there is a $10,000 markup in every deal.
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They aren't wagons, did you ask for wagons? Im sorry, there are only 8 total E63's, all of which are sedans.
what are the prices for sedans?Originally Posted by 6speeddave
You need to have a dealers license and yes, there is a subscription. They also own OVE.com which is another wholesale auction platform.They aren't wagons, did you ask for wagons? Im sorry, there are only 8 total E63's, all of which are sedans.
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what are the prices for sedans?
Looks like $51k-$60k for the 2014s, and maybe $89k for the 2016.
What are the details on the 2016? Miles? VIN? Thanks!
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VIN WDDHF7GB7GB249045
5,101 Miles
$88,500 Buy It Now.
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2016 Black/BlackVIN WDDHF7GB7GB249045
5,101 Miles
$88,500 Buy It Now.
That's a fairly well-equipped car. Thanks for the information!
Ident. number (FIN) WDD2120761B249045
VIN WDDHF7GB7GB249045
Baumuster 212076
Sales name E 63 AMG S 4MATIC
Order number 0 6 714 67488 (Destination: USA)
Delivery date 27 07 2015
PAINT1 197U OBSIDIAN BLACK
Interior color 821A LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE - BLACK/ANTHRACITE
Engine 157981 60 084496
Gearbox 722971 06 491284
General data for model code 212076
Date From Date To
212076 E-class W212 E63 AMG S 4Matic
157.981
722.971
4
SA codes
Parameter Value
077 YEAR OF MODIFICATION 15/0 ECHELON 2
108 CONTROL CODE MARKETING
12B OPERATORS MANUAL & SERVICE BOOKLET ENGLISH USA/CAN
14A OIL OFFSET AMOUNT +1400 ML OIL
197U OBSIDIAN BLACK
1U2 SNOW GRID
211 EPS STEERING (ELECTRIC STEERING)
218 REAR-VIEW CAMERA
232 GARAGE DOOR OPENER WITH 284 - 390 MHZ FREQUENCY
233 AUTONOMOUS INT. CRUISE CONT. PLUS (DISTRONIC PLUS)
235 ACTIVE PARK ASSIST
237 ACTIVE BLIND SPOT ASSIST
238 ACTIVE LANE KEEPING ASSIST (FAP)
23P DRIVING PACKAGE
249 INSIDE AND OUTSIDE MIRROR AUTOMATIC DIMMING
251 INCREASED SPEED LIMIT FOR NAFTA
253 REAR-END COLLISION WARNING AND PROTECTION SYSTEM
264 LICENSE PLATE ATTACHMENT AMERICA
266 DISTRONIC PLUS CROSS SUPPORT (DTR+Q)
268 EXPANDED BRAKE ASSIST (BAS+)
269 BRAKE ASSIST PLUS CROSS TRAFFIC (BAS+Q)
271 AUTONOMOUS BRAKE INTERVENTION/WARN. FOR PED. PROT.
275 MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR)
279 ELECTRONIC GEAR RANGE SELECTION
281 AMG PERFORMANCE STEERING WHEEL
287 THROUGH-LOADING FEATURE
291 PELVIS AIRBAG (PELVISBAG)
294 KNEE AIRBAG
300 COLLISION MINIMIZATION BRAKE INTERV./WARNING (CMS)
301 ASHTRAY PACKAGE
309 CUP HOLDER
342B INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/HU LANGUAGE - AMERICAN
348 EMERGENCY CALL/SUPPORT SYSTEM
34A REINF.TRANS.SP.VERS.K-PLATE W/ DRILLED FILL.APERT.
35A VGS D4-0, D3 PATTERN
3U2 HEAD UNIT AMERICA
401 FRONT SEAT CLIMATE CONTROL
413 PANORAMIC SLIDING SUNROOF/GLASS SUNROOF
427 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 7-SPEED
432 DYNAMICS SEAT,FRONT LEFT AND RIGHT
461 INSTRUMENT WITH MILES IND. AND ENGLISH LEGEND
471 MECHANICAL LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL
475 TIRE PRESSURE MONITOR (TPM) HIGH LINE/MID LINE
488 CHASSIS WITH STEEL/AIR SUSPENSION
494 U.S. VERSION
4U4 RADIATOR GRILLE WITH CENTER STAR
500 OUTSIDE REAR VIEW MIRROR LH AND RH FOLDING
502 3 YEARS OF MAP UPDATES FREE OF CHARGE
513 TRAFFIC SIGN RECOGNITION
531 COMAND APS NTG5/NTG5.5
536 SIRIUS SATELLITE RADIO COMPLETE SYSTEM
540 ROLLER BLIND, ELECTRIC, FOR REAR WINDOW
543 SUN VISOR WITH ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
551 ANTI-THEFT/ANTI-BREAK-IN WARNING SYSTEM
580 AIR CONDITIONER
608 AUTOMATIC HIGH BEAM SWITCH (IHC)
634 DELETION - FIRST AID KIT
636 DELETION - WARNING TRIANGLE
640 DYNAMIC LED HEADLAMPS, SAE, RIGHT-HAND TRAFFIC
668 PRODUCT PROT.F.TRANSPORT VEH. W/ TIE-DOWN HOOKS
669 SPARE WHEEL / FOLDING WHEEL
705L UNITED STATES (USA)
763 RADIO REMOTE CONTROL W/ PANIC SWITCH (315 MHZ)
772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
785 19" AMG DOUBLE-SPOKE WHEEL MIXED TIRES
7XXL NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA
806 YOM 15/1
810 PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM
810A LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE
815 DVD SINGLE DRIVE
821A LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE - BLACK/ANTHRACITE
871 SENSORS FOR TRUNK LID OPENING/CLOSING
875 HEATED SCREEN WASH SYSTEM
881 REMOTE TRUNK LOCKING
887 SEPARATE TRUNK LID LOCKING
889 KEYLESS - GO
89V SPEED- + LOADINDEX ZR19 XL+ZR19 XL
8U1 INTEGRAL CARRIER STRUT DISCONTINUED
915 FUEL TANK WITH GREATER CAPACITY - VOLUME 2
919 AIRCON COOLING POWER PACKAGE
954 EQUIPMENT PACKAGE FOR AVANTGARDE VEHICLES
986 DEVIATING VIN WITH MODEL YEAR
989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
A20 DIRECT START
A21 SHIFT BY WIRE
A68 TRANSMISSION HOUSING WITH DEEP OIL LINE CONNECTION
A89 REDUCED-FRICTION
B03 DIRECT START / ECO START/STOP FUNCTION
B08 ELECTRONIC HORN
B12 WHEEL REPLACEMENT TOOL
F212 MODEL SERIES 212
FW LIMOUSINE
G971 TRANSMISSION CODE VERSION 71
GA AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
GV AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION REINFORCED
H73 TRIM PIECES - CARBON HIGH GLOSS
HA REAR AXLE
J81 JUNE RELEASE
J8A DSM STAR1 FBS4 REMOTE STARTABLE
K15 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 15000 KM
L LEFT-HAND STEERING
M005 VEHICLES WITH 4-MATIC-/ALL WHEEL DRIVE
M014 ENGINE INCREASED PERFORMANCE
M157 V8 GASOLINE ENGINE M157 - AMG
M55 CAPACITY 5,5 LITRE
N1C STEUERCODE W50 FUER PPS-INTERNE VERWENDUNG
N2C STEUERCODE W50 FUER PPS-INTERNE VERWENDUNG
N3C STEUERCODE W50 FUER PPS-INTERNE VERWENDUNG
N42 STEUERCODE WERK SINDELFINGEN/GRAZ
N4C STEUERCODE W50 FUER PPS-INTERNE VERWENDUNG
N5A STEUERCODE W50 FUER PPS-INT. VERWENDUNG
P17 KEYLESS-GO PACKAGE
P49 MIRRORS PACKAGE
R01 SUMMER TIRES
U09 LEATHER-CLAD INST.PANEL + BELTLINE (ART. EMBOSSED)
U10 FRONT PASSENGER SEAT WITH WEIGHT SENSING
U17 DISCONTINUATION OF COLOR SEAT BELT
U25 ILLUMINATED DOOR SILL
U26 FLOOR MATS - AMG
U47 SPOILER LIP
U70 BRAKE CALIPERS PAINTED RED
U71 DVD PLAYER WITH REGIONAL CODE 1, USA
VL FRONT AXLE HALF, LEFT
VR FRONT AXLE HALF, RIGHT
Y41 ROOF HEADLINER DESIGNO DINAMICA MICROFIBER BLACK
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No problem. It does look loaded in the photos too. I just don't like the twin 5 spoke design on the 2016's that this one had, prefer the 10 or 11 spoke style wheels.
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twin spokes are forged ... They are awesome Originally Posted by 6speeddave
No problem. It does look loaded in the photos too. I just don't like the twin 5 spoke design on the 2016's that this one had, prefer the 10 or 11 spoke style wheels.
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I didn't realize the 10 or 11 spoke weren't forged? Good to know.



