W212 AMG Discuss the W212 AMG's such as the E63

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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:28 AM
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Wiestec W3 turbo in my experience was very similar to the stock Turbo. Fairbird If you're really getting 5.6 why do you say that our platform sucks?

Just show us a quarter mile slip of your car. Is there any reason you do not want to do that? If you do that you could silence everybody
lol I can't do that and I have 10 reasons why can't here is the biggest one
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:29 AM
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:32 AM
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lol I can't do that and I have 10 reasons why can't here is the biggest one
Vlad do i inderstand correct that your fastest run on W3 was 11.0 at 209km/h? And you say you measured constant 5.6 that time?
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by vkudenko444
Vlad do i inderstand correct that your fastest run on W3 was 11.0 at 209km/h? And you say you measured constant 5.6 that time?
11.0 was S6 run at 4000 DA , the point of the picture was to show that results are the same RL vs Race America , never got to take the car to the strip after 5.6 since the turbos go bad long time before I even got 5.6
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by e65
Wiestec W3 turbo in my experience was very similar to the stock Turbo. Fairbird If you're really getting 5.6 why do you say that our platform sucks?

Just show us a quarter mile slip of your car. Is there any reason you do not want to do that? If you do that you could silence everybody
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Fairbird
11.0 was S6 run at 4000 DA , the point of the picture was to show that results are the same RL vs Race America , never got to take the car to the strip after 5.6 since the turbos go bad long time before I even got 5.6
Vlad comparing different measurements on different cars on fifferent days is not the best approach even when you want to test a mere accuracy of your RL.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:44 AM
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oh come on . some of them same day , I've tested it 200 times on different tracks . car brand does not affect the accuracy whatsoever
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:49 AM
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From my experience proved by official trap speeds:
~209-211km/h trap speed means 6.0-6.2 for 100-200km/h
~212-214km/h trap speed means 5.8-5.9 for 100-200km/h
~220km/h trap speed means 5.0-5.2 for 100-200km/h
~238km/h trap speed means 4.3-4.4 for 100-200km/h

Hence for W3 to run the claimed mid. 5 there should be 216-218km/h trap speed. Have you seen any? I haven't.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by vkudenko444
From my experience proved by official trap speeds:
~209-211km/h trap speed means 6.0-6.2 for 100-200km/h
~212-214km/h trap speed means 5.8-5.9 for 100-200km/h
~220km/h trap speed means 5.0-5.2 for 100-200km/h
~238km/h trap speed means 4.3-4.4 for 100-200km/h

Hence for W3 to run the claimed mid. 5 there should be 216-218km/h trap speed. Have you seen any? I haven't.
this is not exactly accurate ... at all
audi did 6.7 with 209 kmh picture above
as I said earlier I didn't had a chance to take it to the strip after fine tune
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Fairbird
this is not exactly accurate ... at all
audi did 6.7 with 209 kmh picture above
as I said earlier I didn't had a chance to take it to the strip after fine tune
Vlad, i might have missed it, but could you please provide a time slip where your Audi did 11 and trapped 209? It is very strange. Both CLS 63 on Moscow Unlim 2016 did 10.9-11.0 at 209-211 and the constantly measured 6.0-6.2. Hence smth. wrong should be with your RL.

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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 05:01 AM
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 05:14 AM
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the highest I saw was 216 out the benz
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 05:16 AM
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the highest I saw was 216 out the benz
Then please share the logs/time slips.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 05:21 AM
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I don't have them any more , all I have left is screens









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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 05:38 AM
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Well, as i see constant is rather 5.9-6 and it is the speed of st.2 on stock turbos as was showed by 2 different cars in Moscow. 5.6 differs dramatically to be taken into account IMHO.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 05:45 AM
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I had couple different runs 5.6-5.7 , still taking it as best result I ever had on E
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 10:36 AM
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Keep in mind that vbox 1/4 mile trap speeds are usually higher than drag strip trap speeds. The vbox is using the GPS velocity of the car at 1,320' of the run whereas the drag strip is averaging the last 66' of the run using timing lights. On my previous cars that were trapping 130mph+ the difference was on average 1.5-2.0 mph higher on the vbox on the same exact run.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by vkudenko444
Vlad, i might have missed it, but could you please provide a time slip where your Audi did 11 and trapped 209? It is very strange. Both CLS 63 on Moscow Unlim 2016 did 10.9-11.0 at 209-211 and the constantly measured 6.0-6.2. Hence smth. wrong should be with your RL.

here you go... audi s6 stage 3 did 10.7 @ 210.6 kph (130.9 mph)

https://redlinespeedworx.com/audi-s6...-attacks-1320/

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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 10:58 AM
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here you go... audi s6 stage 3 did 10.7 @ 210.6 kph (130.9 mph)

https://redlinespeedworx.com/audi-s6...-attacks-1320/

similar to mine with DA cerrection
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by vkudenko444
Vlad, i might have missed it, but could you please provide a time slip where your Audi did 11 and trapped 209? It is very strange. Both CLS 63 on Moscow Unlim 2016 did 10.9-11.0 at 209-211 and the constantly measured 6.0-6.2. Hence smth. wrong should be with your RL.
was that cls63 on stock turbo? I'm getting 6.0 on stock turbo and right around 11.0 with 207-209
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fairbird
this is not exactly accurate ... at all
audi did 6.7 with 209 kmh picture above
as I said earlier I didn't had a chance to take it to the strip after fine tune
audi has better launch than e63 so it can get better quarter mile performance despite slower 100-200.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 02:16 PM
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^ 5.3 100-200 on stage 5 , 5.8L gad stroker ? only 0.3 sec faster than a $6K weistec stage 3... sounds like something is off

M5 pureturbos stage 1 doing 4.8 100-200... stage2 even faster 4.4
the problem with wishful numbers is that it misleads the people as does the False marketing. I wasted tens of thousands of dollars because I believed the wesitec biturbo myths. Their exhaust wouldn't even fit on my car. And now it seems their turbos are falling apart.

we need to put our egos and loyalties aside and just be fair and honest with each other. 5.6 for w.3 defies common sense and the fact that the turbos disintegrated means even if this was a legit measurement by the vbox it's pointless for Fairbird mention. Its wrong to be giving people the false impression that w3 = 5.6.

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the problem with wishful numbers is that it misleads the people as does the False marketing. I wasted tens of thousands of dollars because I believed the wesitec biturbo myths. Their exhaust wouldn't even fit on my car. And now it seems their turbos are falling apart.

we need to put our egos and loyalties aside and just be fair and honest with each other. 5.6 for w.3 defies common sense and the fact that the turbos disintegrated means even if this was a legit measurement by the vbox it's pointless for Fairbird mention. Its wrong to be giving people the false impression that w3 = 5.6.
wasn't it repeated many times across this forum that the weistec w3 kit gave worse performance/power than stock turbos?

I could swear I remember reading this more than a handful of times here, hence the big expectations for the w4 kit to be a solid improvement.
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Certainly was mentioned but a few die hard fans still keep perpetuating the myth.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 09:07 PM
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Weistec w3 are **** , the bearing wear out in 2 weeks , first pulls were slower than stock stage 1 car , emails forever back and forth helped a little 6.2-6.3 , best one was 5.9 , does this headache worth it ? Of course no , a specialy when you pay $6k for 4 pipes and 2 transmission mounts . The season wasted ton **** load of money wasted . Still can't denied the fact w3 was faster than stock by a lot .
As right now my car is back to stock , my most horrible idea ever was to mode Benz .
I got me a hellcat , spendt 5k in Walmart behind the corner , will run 9.9 all day , end of story .
Not an option for Russia but for me for sure . I need a brake from euro lies and high prices . America FTW
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