Reading the threads and wondering is M5 a better car?
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Well then I guess it just happens to be your luck sits better with Audi than MB, nothing more than just that.
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2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
I've had 4 audis and 3 mb amgs and audi was far more reliable for me
although amg has gotten progressively better for me as e55 was less reliable than c63, and c63 was less reliable than e63s
although amg has gotten progressively better for me as e55 was less reliable than c63, and c63 was less reliable than e63s
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
What are we defining as reliable?
leave you stranded at home or on the side of a road -- never had a car do that. Niggles and little annoying sh-t... the benz hands down ... then the Acura then the infiniti
leave you stranded at home or on the side of a road -- never had a car do that. Niggles and little annoying sh-t... the benz hands down ... then the Acura then the infiniti
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what about head lights ? I lost belly pan at 180 mph , peace of trim in the same run , , the car broke tranny with only 11000 miles on it , accessory battery dead at 2 years all that happened with stage 1 , 700 hp , now listen to this I've added 115 horses on the top of stock E63 power and had to go to the dealer so many times . with audi I've added 310 horses on the top of stock S6 which is 420 horses stock , I put 11000 miles of beating on it with 0 problems , non , nada , nothing , I was at the dealer 1 time to change the oil , on the benz in 1 year I put 4700 miles with that many issues . explains it all to me .
Would you suggest people should buy S7 instead of RS7 and then mod it ? (I feel like it won't be the same thing since RS7 interior is different and might I add nicer lol)
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Added 310 hp to S6 ? may I ask why did you not buy the RS7 ? more mod potential and better gains-maybe even lesser bill.
Would you suggest people should buy S7 instead of RS7 and then mod it ? (I feel like it won't be the same thing since RS7 interior is different and might I add nicer lol)
Would you suggest people should buy S7 instead of RS7 and then mod it ? (I feel like it won't be the same thing since RS7 interior is different and might I add nicer lol)
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Added 310 hp to S6 ? may I ask why did you not buy the RS7 ? more mod potential and better gains-maybe even lesser bill.
Would you suggest people should buy S7 instead of RS7 and then mod it ? (I feel like it won't be the same thing since RS7 interior is different and might I add nicer lol)
Would you suggest people should buy S7 instead of RS7 and then mod it ? (I feel like it won't be the same thing since RS7 interior is different and might I add nicer lol)
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I'll tell you this... I had my E63s for a little over a year (was totaled a few weeks ago), and I just picked up an RS7 that I've had for a couple of weeks now. Now that these cars are old enough to be picked up used, they are not too far off in price from a used E63s. The Audi is so much better in every way... except handling. The E63s steering feels so much better and more nimble... makes that 4500lb car feel like its 1000lbs lighter. The RS7 has very heavy steering, but that's probably the only inferior aspect of it. I was worried the transmission would be inferior as well since it's an automatic and not MCT/DCT, but it shifts much better than the transmission in the E63s. It doesn't have any more modding potential than the E63s... the most common mods for it are downpipes and tune just like the E63s. I don't really see any mainstream upgraded turbo packages for the RS7, but I've seen quite a few for the E63s.
Long trips ?
overall sense of comfort ?
overall sense of confidence driving at thrilling speeds ?
overall sound quality from the exhaust while cruising and or on long highway trips ?
transmission within city trips ? stop and go traffic ?
Snow/wet surface ?
Dealership experience ?
Exclusivity ?
Sound system ?
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First person I've found who has been on both sides of the exact cars I'm in line for lol
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So your done considering the m5?
and why not cls63 or m6 grand coupe if you like RS7 styling?
and why not cls63 or m6 grand coupe if you like RS7 styling?
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2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
http://total-race.com/?ql_services=audi-tuning-kits
stage 3 they have already done 10.1 sec 1/4
stage 4 (150hp more) will get you 9.7 sec 1/4
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Share more bro. Could you compare both ?
Long trips ?
overall sense of comfort ?
overall sense of confidence driving at thrilling speeds ?
overall sound quality from the exhaust while cruising and or on long highway trips ?
transmission within city trips ? stop and go traffic ?
Snow/wet surface ?
Dealership experience ?
Exclusivity ?
Sound system ?
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
First person I've found who has been on both sides of the exact cars I'm in line for lol
Long trips ?
overall sense of comfort ?
overall sense of confidence driving at thrilling speeds ?
overall sound quality from the exhaust while cruising and or on long highway trips ?
transmission within city trips ? stop and go traffic ?
Snow/wet surface ?
Dealership experience ?
Exclusivity ?
Sound system ?
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
First person I've found who has been on both sides of the exact cars I'm in line for lol
The exhaust on this car was surprisingly good. I had no idea these things sounded so good (mine has the sports exhaust). It has valves that open and close based on the driver setting. It makes all those pops and crackles upon revs and shifts... sounds really good.
Transmission is rock solid through traffic.. very smooth as you'd expect from an automatic transmission. The E63 had a little jerky-ness like any other MCT/DCT transmission.
I haven't really driven in bad weather yet nor have I gone to the dealership for service yet, so I can't really testify to that.
It's definitely more exclusive than an E63... just look at how many are for sale on Cars.com.
I don't really use the sound system much, so I don't really know or care about that. Mine has the Bose system (not the overglorified Bang and Olufsen), but it sounds as good as the Harmon Kardon I had in the E63.
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https://youtu.be/rOgsaZ8p1jE
http://total-race.com/?ql_services=audi-tuning-kits
stage 3 they have already done 10.1 sec 1/4
stage 4 (150hp more) will get you 9.7 sec 1/4![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
http://total-race.com/?ql_services=audi-tuning-kits
stage 3 they have already done 10.1 sec 1/4
stage 4 (150hp more) will get you 9.7 sec 1/4
![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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#118
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I haven't taken any long trips yet... longest car ride so far was probably a half hour or so, but the sports seats are very comfortable. The car is very tamed when it needs to be, but feels very quick off the line... that automatic transmission with the torque converter gives you that instant acceleration off the line, unlike the throttle delay there is in the E63.
The exhaust on this car was surprisingly good. I had no idea these things sounded so good (mine has the sports exhaust). It has valves that open and close based on the driver setting. It makes all those pops and crackles upon revs and shifts... sounds really good.
Transmission is rock solid through traffic.. very smooth as you'd expect from an automatic transmission. The E63 had a little jerky-ness like any other MCT/DCT transmission.
I haven't really driven in bad weather yet nor have I gone to the dealership for service yet, so I can't really testify to that.
It's definitely more exclusive than an E63... just look at how many are for sale on Cars.com.
I don't really use the sound system much, so I don't really know or care about that. Mine has the Bose system (not the overglorified Bang and Olufsen), but it sounds as good as the Harmon Kardon I had in the E63.
The exhaust on this car was surprisingly good. I had no idea these things sounded so good (mine has the sports exhaust). It has valves that open and close based on the driver setting. It makes all those pops and crackles upon revs and shifts... sounds really good.
Transmission is rock solid through traffic.. very smooth as you'd expect from an automatic transmission. The E63 had a little jerky-ness like any other MCT/DCT transmission.
I haven't really driven in bad weather yet nor have I gone to the dealership for service yet, so I can't really testify to that.
It's definitely more exclusive than an E63... just look at how many are for sale on Cars.com.
I don't really use the sound system much, so I don't really know or care about that. Mine has the Bose system (not the overglorified Bang and Olufsen), but it sounds as good as the Harmon Kardon I had in the E63.
I reckon that after a while things that really matter for Canadian drivers especially where I live- is long trips, driving in winter, exhaust, stop and go traffic and sound system. Once in a while thrilling speeds happen, passing someone is also rare now since my driving habits have changed and I just come behind the driver instead of getting ahead lol.
BTW there is a sound system MOD for RS7 which gives better base-just change the sub-it is so simple-I started a topic on audizine and someone experimented and now all of them are doing it. It's so straight forward unlike our cars. Even E55 10 year old car -I can't simply replace the sub and replicate those results.
How's the ride quality? I assume you are on 21's ?
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https://youtu.be/rOgsaZ8p1jE
http://total-race.com/?ql_services=audi-tuning-kits
stage 3 they have already done 10.1 sec 1/4
stage 4 (150hp more) will get you 9.7 sec 1/4![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
http://total-race.com/?ql_services=audi-tuning-kits
stage 3 they have already done 10.1 sec 1/4
stage 4 (150hp more) will get you 9.7 sec 1/4
![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
#121
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So who's the target audience for Turbo , Turbo S Panamera?
I was browsing autotrader and even 2011-2012 models went into 6 figures.
Like who are they targeting? lol
Are those mod friendly?
Panamera GTS is relatively cheaper but not mod friendly what so ever.
I was browsing autotrader and even 2011-2012 models went into 6 figures.
Like who are they targeting? lol
Are those mod friendly?
Panamera GTS is relatively cheaper but not mod friendly what so ever.
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I haven't taken any long trips yet... longest car ride so far was probably a half hour or so, but the sports seats are very comfortable. The car is very tamed when it needs to be, but feels very quick off the line... that automatic transmission with the torque converter gives you that instant acceleration off the line, unlike the throttle delay there is in the E63.
The exhaust on this car was surprisingly good. I had no idea these things sounded so good (mine has the sports exhaust). It has valves that open and close based on the driver setting. It makes all those pops and crackles upon revs and shifts... sounds really good.
Transmission is rock solid through traffic.. very smooth as you'd expect from an automatic transmission. The E63 had a little jerky-ness like any other MCT/DCT transmission.
I haven't really driven in bad weather yet nor have I gone to the dealership for service yet, so I can't really testify to that.
It's definitely more exclusive than an E63... just look at how many are for sale on Cars.com.
I don't really use the sound system much, so I don't really know or care about that. Mine has the Bose system (not the overglorified Bang and Olufsen), but it sounds as good as the Harmon Kardon I had in the E63.
The exhaust on this car was surprisingly good. I had no idea these things sounded so good (mine has the sports exhaust). It has valves that open and close based on the driver setting. It makes all those pops and crackles upon revs and shifts... sounds really good.
Transmission is rock solid through traffic.. very smooth as you'd expect from an automatic transmission. The E63 had a little jerky-ness like any other MCT/DCT transmission.
I haven't really driven in bad weather yet nor have I gone to the dealership for service yet, so I can't really testify to that.
It's definitely more exclusive than an E63... just look at how many are for sale on Cars.com.
I don't really use the sound system much, so I don't really know or care about that. Mine has the Bose system (not the overglorified Bang and Olufsen), but it sounds as good as the Harmon Kardon I had in the E63.
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assuming status car that's it , Porsche 911 uses dry sump and engine came it straight from racing all forged and ready for abuse . Panamera regular motor , nothing special , talking about previous gen . Not as reliable as well