Originally Posted by gaspam

i think the part of the launch that you are missing the point on is the 1/2 second pause the M157 MCT trans has off the line.... e63tt mash pedal.. trans waits .5 sec... then goes

at that point e63tt is playing catchup to other car

all the 0-60 mph times you see, dont take into account for that trans pause since they use a 1 foot rollout and dont start timing until the car has actually moved more than a foot..... so whatever the actual "lag/pause" time of the MCT trans is, needs to be added to the 0-60mph time to get its realworld 0-60 mph time

no way our cars are doing anywhere close to 2.8 sec 0-60....audi r8 plus does 0-60 in 2.7 sec and i raced one a few weekends back from a stop and it wasnt even funny... he put 2 car lengths on me almost immediately from the start and i tried both brake torquing and just mashing pedal with both results the same (him launching hard while my car paused and then went)......so no way we are even close to 2.8 sec in tuned/dp form

Originally Posted by chiromikey

Bottom line...for the power, awd, and it's specs on paper, relatively speaking, this platform is about the worst performing car when it comes to launching...period!

Originally Posted by chiromikey

I've seen 1 or 2 rare high 1.6 60ft times from the m157 awd platform on tires but it's the exception and not the rule! I call bs on any "claims" faster than that I don't care what some dash box says!

Originally Posted by notatroll

Agreeded. Once the car starts moving it goes like a freight train. The problem is that pause when mash the pedal to the floor. By the time the car reacts, everything else next to you is already ahead and moving

Originally Posted by efiftyfizzle

I don't believe the 2.8 0-60 one bit... here's some 60' to 0-60 calculator (approximate) I found on another forum:

2.3 second 60' time = 35.5 mph @60' = 7.0 second 0-60 time
2.2 second 60' time = 37.1 mph @60' = 6.5 second 0-60 time
2.1 second 60' time = 38.9 mph @60' = 5.9 second 0-60 time
2.0 second 60' time = 40.9 mph @60' = 5.2 second 0-60 time
1.9 second 60' time = 43.0 mph @60' = 4.6 second 0-60 time
1.8 second 60' time = 45.5 mph @60' = 4.0 second 0-60 time
1.7 second 60' time = 48.1 mph @60' = 3.4 second 0-60 time
1.6 second 60' time = 51.1 mph @60' = 2.9 second 0-60 time
1.5 second 60' time = 54.5 mph @60' = 2.2 second 0-60 time
1.4 second 60' time = 58.4 mph @60' = 1.5 second 0-60 time
1.36 second 60' time = 60.0 mph @60' = 1.36 second 0-60 time
1.3 second 60' time = 62.9 mph @60' = 1.2 second 0-60 time
1.2 second 60' time = 68.1 mph @60' = 1.1 second 0-60 time
1.1 second 60' time = 74.3 mph @60' = 0.9 second 0-60 time
1.0 second 60' time = 81.8 mph @60' = 0.7 second 0-60 time

I haven't really seen anyone cutting better than a 1.7 60' time which is mid 3 second 0-60 for the E63S. In comparison, stock RS7 are pulling 1.6 60' times which is high 2/low 3 second for 0-60.

Originally Posted by notatroll

When was the weistec stage 4 released? Like 3 months ago? Why havent we got any performance data yet? Dyno numbers is only a first step. They are located in the sunny CA. So the weather shouldnt be a problem for them unlike the guys in the East coast who seem to try and do more for this platform.

Originally Posted by gaspam

see post 39 in this thread... I posted a 60-130 vbox that they provided on another site

i also saw they ran 165 mph in 1/2 at shiftsector CA a few months ago as well after they posted their first 840 WHP instagram dyno teaser vid

Originally Posted by notatroll

Stage 1 pure turbo m5s are running equal number if Im not mistaking.

Originally Posted by gaspam

actually they are faster... 60-130 = 5.6 and 170 mph 1/2

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1253027

Originally Posted by PeterUbers

F it, lol!

im buying the new awd m5

hopefully it'll look better than the current g30 m550i

Originally Posted by Fairbird

600 hp all new 2017 alpina B7, I'm not sure about S class but this thing is freaking crazy , and yes I have to alpina B7 in my shop lol

Originally Posted by notatroll

Love it. Even though he is the only one to get there, that doesnt take away the fact that he did it! As far as I know he holds the record for 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile and 60-130 mph acceleration. Couple guys have tried with m157 but failed unfortunately. Thats mercedes for you.

Originally Posted by notatroll

Your race depends on how two cars are modded too though. How much does st1 m5 make, which tuner, which dyno on what day? How much does st1 e63 make, which tuner on which dyno and on what day? Even stock for stock m5 traps more in the 1/4 mile. Tune for tune both on stock turbos m5 will beat it as well.

Originally Posted by gaspam

i agree and most of the M157's ive seen on here are cutting 1.8's so 4 sec 0-60mph according to your numbers which i tend to agree is the real 0-60 mph number for tuned M157's

Originally Posted by Amg63-

stock for stock the m5 does not trap higher.

Unless your talking about m5 CP which traps 122mph, even then the e63s still beats or matches it as it also traps 122-123 (road and track got 122 for m5 and 123 for e63s)

and on st1 both on stock turbos it depends on each are tuned, m5 will not always beat it.

Originally Posted by gaspam

^ i tried all launch methods with all similar results... brake boosting felt the most responsive, when you get it right, but get it wrong and limp mode

Originally Posted by Fairbird

get over it guys