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Old 04-23-2017, 12:42 AM
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first year 2015 9000 cars were made , second year 2016 12000 challenger only sold in the states , Demon 3000 cars , we won't see any of them and price will be high AF
Well if I decide I want one bad enough I can promise you I won't have to pay $130k.
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Everyone said the same thing about the hellcat and they ended up all over for zero markup.

Either way, it doesn't change the fact that this is the only Chrysler that interests me. Ok, maybe the hellcat jeep
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Well if I decide I want one bad enough I can promise you I won't have to pay $130k.
I'm not either lol my 1050 hp cost me 67k , most likely we won't find them
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if acquisition price of the demon is 130-140k, then I'm entirely bored with it and would rather have something else ... the beauty of it is what you get for the price
it's like 993 turbo for 200k , same thing
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that launch .

I also love how you hear the kid walk by, with each step of his shoes sticking to the ground (starting at 1:46min)

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that launch .

I also love how you hear the kid walk by, with each step of his shoes sticking to the ground (starting at 1:46min)
I did without any kids and no prep surface
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this is the only Chrysler that interests me. Ok, maybe the hellcat jeep
this ^ especially the Jeep trackhawk as i am really interested in that as i am in the market for a second car, and need it to be suv for my jetskis, and i think an 850+ hp (cuz i would get it tuned) jetski hauler is totally what i need

I was going to get a wrangler JK ****** but once i saw the trackhawk i immediately knew i needed it
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These cars are all fun, but I don't know why the dodges are getting all the fun action when the potent CTSv is getting no love on this forum. I find that car to be waaay more potent than the dodges/Chrysler. Lots of modding potential (LSx engine) plus it can actually turn. Hell it will outrun the E63/RS7/M5&6/etc etc on any track straight or curvy right out of the box (stock to stock).
Stock, they are trapping almost as much as a tuned E63. And they run almost as fast as the tuned AWD E63 in the quarter mile with RWD.

I guess I just don't get the fascination with the dodges. Demon not included, but to me, it's like that really awesome toy you have no use for

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These cars are all fun, but I don't know why the dodges are getting all the fun action when the potent CTSv is getting no love on this forum. I find that car to be waaay more potent than the dodges/Chrysler. Lots of modding potential (LSx engine) plus it can actually turn. Hell it will outrun the E63/RS7/M5&6/etc etc on any track straight or curvy right out of the box (stock to stock).
Stock, they are trapping almost as much as a tuned E63. And they run almost as fast as the tuned AWD E63 in the quarter mile with RWD.

I guess I just don't get the fascination with the dodges. Demon not included, but to me, it's like that really awesome toy you have no use for
CTsV way more expensive , it's a GM , motors are crap , that's why
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These cars are all fun, but I don't know why the dodges are getting all the fun action when the potent CTSv is getting no love on this forum. I find that car to be waaay more potent than the dodges/Chrysler. Lots of modding potential (LSx engine) plus it can actually turn. Hell it will outrun the E63/RS7/M5&6/etc etc on any track straight or curvy right out of the box (stock to stock).
Stock, they are trapping almost as much as a tuned E63. And they run almost as fast as the tuned AWD E63 in the quarter mile with RWD.

I guess I just don't get the fascination with the dodges. Demon not included, but to me, it's like that really awesome toy you have no use for
I have run 2 of the new CTS Vs stock. Both of them I smoked not by a little but 4 cars and 3+ mph I ran 11.7 122 both of them were not even close. Both at the drag strip. One even got a .3 jump on the light and I ran him down and passed him
Stock vs stock E63s is faster. Modded it's different.
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I have run 2 of the new CTS Vs stock. Both of them I smoked not by a little but 4 cars and 3+ mph I ran 11.7 122 both of them were not even close. Both at the drag strip. One even got a .3 jump on the light and I ran him down and passed him
Stock vs stock E63s is faster. Modded it's different.
Pretty sure you beat the driver. Last quarter mile I saw of a RS7 was ~12.8 lol. Pretty sure that car was more capable than that.
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Originally Posted by kponti
These cars are all fun, but I don't know why the dodges are getting all the fun action when the potent CTSv is getting no love on this forum. I find that car to be waaay more potent than the dodges/Chrysler. Lots of modding potential (LSx engine) plus it can actually turn. Hell it will outrun the E63/RS7/M5&6/etc etc on any track straight or curvy right out of the box (stock to stock).
Stock, they are trapping almost as much as a tuned E63. And they run almost as fast as the tuned AWD E63 in the quarter mile with RWD.

I guess I just don't get the fascination with the dodges. Demon not included, but to me, it's like that really awesome toy you have no use for
yeah, an expensive $130k one trick pony.... "The Dodge Challenger SRT® Demon is designed for one thing: dominating the quarter mile. These essentials will help ensure you get to the stripe first, win some trophies and put the other guy on the trailer."

if one's priority is top 1/4 mile times, why spend $130k for a Demon in upper 9's when for about $20k you can enjoy one of these 8 or 9 second beauties with roll bars included and have plenty of extra $$ for a Hellcat, E63 or RS7, M5 or other multi-purpose supercar

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/1...cing-Cars.html

to each their own - but i just love all these flavors of damn fast cars
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Where's the $130k coming from?

There were plenty of dealers moving hellcats for msrp from day one. There will be plenty of dealers moving the Demon for msrp as well, which by all accounts I've seen, wont be near $130k.

The supposed 3k limit on production will be a bigger issue, as you'll need connections to get one. And with dodge's record of just about never sticking to limited production runs lately, I wouldn't bet the ranch they'll only build 3k of them.

And yes, TrackHawk please. I'll use it to tow my 900whp Hellcat track car.

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With nicer rims around town that demon would look much nicer
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With nicer rims around town that demon would look much nicer
Lol! which will defy the purpose of the car ... But I have to admit that noise and rims would be a turnhead!
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Its a facking hammer. Pulling ones pants down and making the girls gasp, yeah, thats what this car is about.
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The sound .... that sound wow
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Has a great sound but doesn't leave me in awe. Thanx for the share Peter.
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I like the Hellcats and the Demon. I am probably not going to buy any of them, but I am very glad that Dodge has the ***** and attitude to make these cars. Hopefully other performance divisions from other manufacturers are given the green light to make more purpose built cars and not just ones that are designed to appeal to the masses.

^^^ This. I work for Nissan, and I can confirm that the sheer ability for FCA to design, engineer, build, and sell this beast is a feat worthy of admiration. My company has penned up several awesome concepts over the years, and many of them have died premature deaths (here's looking at you, ID-X).

Of course, we're quite fond of our GT-R.

I'm happy to see the Demon for no other reason than the fact that it's specifically catering to the racing enthusiasts. VERY impressive numbers for any price point, let alone the target MSRP.
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Has a great sound but doesn't leave me in awe. Thanx for the share Peter.
good to to hear from you bro -- hope you're well!
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Push... the.... envelope.

I am very happy also that in this green fuel conscious world, manufactures still have the brass ***** to make cars like the demon and hellcat and E63S
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Push... the.... envelope.

I am very happy also that in this green fuel conscious world, manufactures still have the brass ***** to make cars like the demon and hellcat and E63S
Amen, brother. I don't care what the badge says, it's the ideology that I'm embracing. Then again, I've never been one to let a badge deter me from driving a car that can provide an enjoyable ownership experience.
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^^^ This. I work for Nissan, and I can confirm that the sheer ability for FCA to design, engineer, build, and sell this beast is a feat worthy of admiration. My company has penned up several awesome concepts over the years, and many of them have died premature deaths (here's looking at you, ID-X).

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that's whats the coolest part to me... that dodge was able to get this project passed internally and make it to the real world..... Im sure it was no easy task and sure that has to be all sorts of compliance/ regulatory bs they had to fight through to get a 9 sec street car through all the channels..... most companies would of said "f$ck uit, its not worth it" .... dodge said " f$ck it, we're doing this!"


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