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Old 04-25-2017, 01:00 PM
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that's whats the coolest part to me... that dodge was able to get this project passed internally and make it to the real world..... Im sure it was no easy task and sure that has to be all sorts of compliance/ regulatory bs they had to fight through to get a 9 sec street car through all the channels..... most companies would of said "f$ck uit, its not worth it" .... dodge said " f$ck it, we're doing this!"

Can confirm. I approve parts submission warrants for components used in overseas production. The red tape for any NORMAL car is absolutely redonkulous. The ability for FCA to keep their nose to the grindstone to successfully give us this car in spite of all the red tape should be applauded. If we were able to get similar cooperation from our design and legal committees... you'd see some bonkers stuff come from us.

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WOW! that is the stock charger? ***** thats a big blower man

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Fairbird will like this article. http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...ws&date=042517
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I think that article covers the appeal to both sides of the argument...
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I think that article covers the appeal to both sides of the argument...
I agree. You have to wonder how much slower the modded Hellcats would be if they still were 50 state emissions compliant. Could they still duplicate a 9.65 @ 140 mph time with that constraint?
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q/a from designer of jeep trackhawk... the LC sounds pretty cool being able to choose what stall speed you want, from 1750 to 3500 rpm, bases on the surface you are on

http://www.motortrend.com/news/talki...-srt-engineer/
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q/a from designer of jeep trackhawk... the LC sounds pretty cool being able to choose what stall speed you want, from 1750 to 3500 rpm, bases on the surface you are on

http://www.motortrend.com/news/talki...-srt-engineer/
wow that suv ran 11.08 in the 1/4 compared to the 12.04 in the current srt8, that awd really helped heave that heavy *** suv launch

great read ... car talk from the guys that build and engineer these cars for a living ... priceless
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wow that suv ran 11.08 in the 1/4 compared to the 12.04 in the current srt8, that awd really helped heave that heavy *** suv launch

great read ... car talk from the guys that build and engineer these cars for a living ... priceless
I have a feeling they meant to say 12.8 for the regular Jeep SRT and 11.6 for the Hellcat Jeep. The quote:

Mackiewicz: Well I can tell you dragstrip quarter-mile elapsed times: We ran a 12.08 on an SRT8 6.4 and this ran 11:06.
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Anyone still think this car will cost $130k now that msrp has been announced as mid $80s?
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Anyone still think this car will cost $130k now that msrp has been announced as mid $80s?
buy it
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buy it
I think the RS7 is my next car but I'd buy this over a Hellcat and it wouldn't be for $130k!
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I think the RS7 is my next car but I'd buy this over a Hellcat and it wouldn't be for $130k!
great boring car
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RS7 looks like poop sauce
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RS7 looks like poop sauce
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RS7 looks like poop sauce
I hate the *** end too but I hate trying to deal with the limitations of this car more.
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But then I see body kits like this and I'm reminded how much our *** looks like a Toyota!

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Not just poop, the sauce from the poop? Damn you really must dislike the car
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I'd take my E63 over the Demon any day.
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Not just poop, the sauce from the poop? Damn you really must dislike the car
When you can't even run the tires you want without the ecu nannies in traction and abs trying to kill you, or can't drive with passengers unless the tranny is in comfort mode because of the jerkiness, things get effing old. And that's not even getting into the nodding limitations or what a joke Race Start is to launch.
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I'd take my E63 over the Demon any day.
If I could only do one or the other I'd agree!!
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The stuff that FCA -(as well as GM and Ford) is doing is exciting. We are seeing stuff that no one has done since the 60s. The Demon is falling in line with the 68 SS/A and SS/AA HEMI Dart and HEMI Barracuda. They left the assembly line running 10.8, setting records in super stock drag racing. Not to mention all the other factory drag cars.
Exciting time to be a car enthusiast.

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I'd take my E63 over the Demon any day.
As would I. Let's be serious, people are not cross shopping a Demon/Hellcat when they're in the market for an E63, or vice-versa. Of course there are outliers, but it is definitely not the norm.
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I even like my hellcat better then Demon and it's faster lol
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E63 = sport sedan, Porsche = sport car, demon and hellcat = muscle car. As a daily driver, getting from point a to b fasterest is not the only thing I care for or I would have gotten a Tesla P100D.


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