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Old 07-17-2017, 04:10 PM
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New Panamera Turbo C&D Test

I wasn't sure where to put this, but thought it had some interesting test results:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...bo-test-review

Zero to 60 mph: 3.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.5 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 18.6 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.4 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.3 sec @ 122 mph
Top speed (drag limited, mfr's claim): 190 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 153 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.94 g
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certainly looks more attractive and they cleaned up the interior so it is not cluttered with buttons. outside of that i can't say much until i see it in person, drive it, etc.
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this is a beast and it looks GOOD now!!

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This is looking a lot nicer than Panny's of the past. I like where Porsche is putting the badge across the back like that....in a spot not typically badged. And the other models too have them there...... of course Porsche pricing is much higher



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Yeah this is like $160k
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Looks like a long 911 this time around. I like it.
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Nice looking rear end too


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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Porsche really needs to add a proper shooting brake version by pushing the A pillars and cabin rearward and chop off the 2 rear doors.
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Yeah this is like $160k
I'm a Porsche guy, having had four 911s and a 356, so naturally I built a wagon using their configurator and it was $194,000. I'll be sticking with Mercedes when it comes to wagons.
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Going off topic for a side question: What's the reason for that grid pattern on the rear window as seen in post #8? I have seen similar on wide variety of car makes.
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Nice results !

Yes the E has more power, but it also costs way less and is faster. When the panny turbo S comes out that will be even more out of the price range.

Over all I think well done merc
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Porsche will retain its value a bit better than the merc amg
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Yeah, can you believe the latest 911R??!
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This one?

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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Porsche will retain its value a bit better than the merc amg
Perhaps for the new one, but the current generation Panamera Turbo has massive depreciation, worse than AMGs. However, I agree with you regarding Panameras that have a similar MSRP to the E63.
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Peter, this one


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Peter, this one


oh snap!!! How much?
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oh snap!!! How much?
They were about $200k, and first made available to owners of 918 Spyders. Of course everyone with a 918 bought one, so there were really none available to the general public. Now they're all secondhand and commanding premiums over MSRP. The car is basically a GT3 RS without all the boy racer kit and with a manual transmission. It's probably the greatest street 911 ever built to date.
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From what I understand the MSRP was around 165 or so.....they now are being sold for 500K! only a YEAR later! They have lots of HP and are a 5 speed too hubba hubba!
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They were about $200k, and first made available to owners of 918 Spyders. Of course everyone with a 918 bought one, so there were really none available to the general public. Now they're all secondhand and commanding premiums over MSRP. The car is basically a GT3 RS without all the boy racer kit and with a manual transmission. It's probably the greatest street 911 ever built to date.
Spot on mate
Doug Demuro does a vid on youtube about it.....I enjoy his videos
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Insane quarter mile time for this big heavy brute with "only" 550 HP
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Insane quarter mile time for this big heavy brute with "only" 550 HP
Pretty cool when a car can launch properly!
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So the same quarter mile time as the E63s but 3mph slower. Yep better launch still

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