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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 03:51 PM
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30k service musings ...

I have prepaid so it was time to do this service.... I have the stock ecu back in btw.

i mentioned the tensioner rattle and that is being fixed under ELW warranty ... how much would that repair cost out of pocket? My ELW was $2600 for 7/75k btw when I got the e63S new in 2014

also my battery is 4 years old they're doing that for $414

my right rim was bent and repaired under my wheel tire warranty which has already paid for itself

$129 for road force balancing

brakes still with 4mm... oem brakes never replaced, rotors good, will do giro pads next year at Indy

detail $200

alignment $200

motor mounts good to go, no issues yet. Rest of car is solid. They have me for new plugs under my prepaid for next year service so I'll wait till then as they want $800 to do it now or it'll be covered under prepaid next year....

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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 10:02 PM
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Not bad for 30K miles... Pretty good stuff. M157 and MCT is a solid powertrain as long as you take care of her... Oil and filter changes, Trans oil and filters, diff fluid for S model guys.

Depending upon your engine # they are either gonna Change your chain tensioners on the left and right, and add checks valve.. I believe these are pre 2014 engines.
On most 2014 + engines, they will only replace the chain tensioners.
Normal operation of the tensioners is to produce some rattling until the oil pressure comes up, if the new tenisoners don't do it at first, they will.. No damage or harm comes from this. I wouldnt call this a repair for more newer M157’s. For older m157 engines a stop to extended rattling repair for sure.

Each timing chain tensioner is around $120 Online , 2 are needed, and labor at the dealer would be few hundred. The job total should not be anywhere near over $1,000 total. I would eastimate around $600-800 would be fair.

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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 03:12 PM
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Interesting. That rattle I had on cold start never lasted more than 5-8 seconds then went away. I've read people getting the tensioner replaced and the rattle came back.

Realistically my dealer prob would charge $1200 for a job like this because they are in the highway robbery biz

they wanted $800 just for plugs parts and labor
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 05:42 PM
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Just told by the SA they found a second rim bent they will warranty repair ... this came about when the road force balance asked for more than 30 grams on one rim

thank god for warranties
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Interesting. That rattle I had on cold start never lasted more than 5-8 seconds then went away. I've read people getting the tensioner replaced and the rattle came back.

Realistically my dealer prob would charge $1200 for a job like this because they are in the highway robbery biz

they wanted $800 just for plugs parts and labor
lol wow, sounds like some dealers around my neck of the woods aswell! Very annoying..

Yea, benz considers that small window of rattle normal while the oil pressure is being built up since that is what works the tensioners, so makes sense. They also claim that no negative effects come from this rattle.

Interested to hear what to change (im thinking tensioners alone, if anything) on your engine and what your intial/long term review on it is.
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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 10:28 PM
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Hey, just wondering what did they change on your car and if so, it is any quieter on cold start?
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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 10:41 PM
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Just had mine in for the 5 year/50k mile service even though I only have 22k miles on it. It was the A1 service. They didn't mention anything significant. I had a 3rd party PPI since I might be selling it and they find a minor rear main seal leak. Oh, and my warranty expired between the service and the PPI. Thankfully the dealer was kind enough to still warranty it. They even said they noticed the rear main leak, but didn't think it was bad enough to fix it at that time. I find that a little hard to believe that they wouldn't at least mention a rear main seal leak. I'm no engine expert, but I think that's a fairly important seal. Apparently it's a 10-12 hour job and about 2800 bucks to fix. Thankfully they stepped up.
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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lumi
Hey, just wondering what did they change on your car and if so, it is any quieter on cold start?
definitely quieter I think they changed the tensioners?
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Fawk me! Did you buy the ELW at delivery?! Mine was so expensive and I haven't even used it! AND it was only 3 years!
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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 11:10 AM
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Fawk me! Did you buy the ELW at delivery?! Mine was so expensive and I haven't even used it! AND it was only 3 years!
i did, the next year the ELW skyrocketed in price ...I paid $2600 for 7/75k in 2014; the next year it went to like $5600
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i did, the next year the ELW skyrocketed in price ...I paid $2600 for 7/75k in 2014; the next year it went to like $5600
Yeah, they always give you the better deal at delivery when they're trying to get you with all that extra stuff........problem was, for me, I wasn't sure if I'd keep the thing past the warranty........live and learn
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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 06:04 PM
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Yeah, they always give you the better deal at delivery when they're trying to get you with all that extra stuff........problem was, for me, I wasn't sure if I'd keep the thing past the warranty........live and learn
I paid $3,700 for a Fidelity warranty extension of 5 years and 60k miles from the time that I bought this car. Having worked in auto repair I know first hand that aftermarket warranties tend to suck, but I figured it worth a shot given the type of repair costs I expect to see.
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I paid $3,700 for a Fidelity warranty extension of 5 years and 60k miles from the time that I bought this car. Having worked in auto repair I know first hand that aftermarket warranties tend to suck, but I figured it worth a shot given the type of repair costs I expect to see.
I also had this warranty they refused to replace my starter which was the only thing that went wrong in my 70k miles of coverage. and then my warranty ended up expiring without needing any repairs. complete waste of money
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Originally Posted by brfatal
I paid $3,700 for a Fidelity warranty extension of 5 years and 60k miles from the time that I bought this car. Having worked in auto repair I know first hand that aftermarket warranties tend to suck, but I figured it worth a shot given the type of repair costs I expect to see.
That seems like a good deal actually, I'm sure it will help down the road.
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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 10:56 PM
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I also had this warranty they refused to replace my starter which was the only thing that went wrong in my 70k miles of coverage. and then my warranty ended up expiring without needing any repairs. complete waste of money
I believe it. We've had scummy warranty companies try to get used parts rather than new installed. And it wasn't unknown for them to only approve repairs on addressing the symptom and not the root cause. But Fidelity is higher on the ladder than some of those.
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