Stock vs Aftermarket Tune - 1/4 mile performance - Eurocharged Stage 1 Tune
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Originally Posted by fever
Hope you guys make some good runs tonight. I've got other plans with the wife and kids. I did run by EC and spoke with a couple people there. Stage 1 seems the way to go.
Of all the runs that night there was only one decent run for a EC stage 2 2014 E63S.
He ran an 11.020 @ 126 on race gas. So close. Lol.
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I ordered the EC OBD flash stage one, and am going to a track event in May. I plan on flashing to get before and after at the track.
I ordered the EC OBD flash stage one, and am going to a track event in May. I plan on flashing to get before and after at the track.
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The fastest 60ft E63S in my group is a 1.6 60' using Brake Boost... the second fastest is 1.7 60' using RS. They are both EC stage 2... the best my EC stage 1 has seen is a 1.8 60', but I normally run a 1.9 60'.
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Stage 2 requires supporting mods though... in particular downpipe work to handle the extra power. You can start to feel clutch slippage in some cases as well.
I feel the Stage 1 is a great compromise without having to mess with intakes or exhausts...
I see you are in Canada with that craptastic Canadian blend for fuel. Have you considered water meth to help improve your octane rating? I'm seeing comparable 93/water meth times to my race gas times...
All my times are on 93 octane here in Texas, or a blend of 104 with the regular gas...
I feel the Stage 1 is a great compromise without having to mess with intakes or exhausts...
I see you are in Canada with that craptastic Canadian blend for fuel. Have you considered water meth to help improve your octane rating? I'm seeing comparable 93/water meth times to my race gas times...
All my times are on 93 octane here in Texas, or a blend of 104 with the regular gas...
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Craptastic 
The event is in Memphis so I will be running "normal" US octane. I would love a higher trap speed - but, not sure I want to do downpipe for a few extra mph. I've had cat-less cars before and I'm too old for that. Cat-less smell makes me nauseous instead of turned on these days. LOL.
I saw a thread here someone did EC stage 2 with cats. I want my cake and eat it too.
I just got the My Genuis flasher today, so I'll ask Jerry about what tune he recommends when I send in my stock file.
The event is in Memphis so I will be running "normal" US octane. I would love a higher trap speed - but, not sure I want to do downpipe for a few extra mph. I've had cat-less cars before and I'm too old for that. Cat-less smell makes me nauseous instead of turned on these days. LOL.
I saw a thread here someone did EC stage 2 with cats. I want my cake and eat it too.
I just got the My Genuis flasher today, so I'll ask Jerry about what tune he recommends when I send in my stock file.
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The event is in Memphis so I will be running "normal" US octane. I would love a higher trap speed - but, not sure I want to do downpipe for a few extra mph. I've had cat-less cars before and I'm too old for that. Cat-less smell makes me nauseous instead of turned on these days. LOL.
I saw a thread here someone did EC stage 2 with cats. I want my cake and eat it too.
I just got the My Genuis flasher today, so I'll ask Jerry about what tune he recommends when I send in my stock file.
The event is in Memphis so I will be running "normal" US octane. I would love a higher trap speed - but, not sure I want to do downpipe for a few extra mph. I've had cat-less cars before and I'm too old for that. Cat-less smell makes me nauseous instead of turned on these days. LOL.
I saw a thread here someone did EC stage 2 with cats. I want my cake and eat it too.
I just got the My Genuis flasher today, so I'll ask Jerry about what tune he recommends when I send in my stock file.
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I just got the MyGenius programmer from Eurocharged earlier this week. Emailed them my MYGFile.fpf (7kb) and on the next day I received the TUNE.MYG file (6956kb) from Jerry. Will be trying the flash this weekend on my completely stock 2014 E63S.
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Were the instructions clear?
I had a EC tune on my C63 and was very happy with it!
Considering getting a tune for the E63s
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Eurocharged M157 Tune notes (via MyGenius OBD programmer)
So I don't hijack the original thread, here's my post on the M157 tune by OBD programmer (My Genius) from Eurocharged:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7717271
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7717271
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Stage 2 requires supporting mods though... in particular downpipe work to handle the extra power. You can start to feel clutch slippage in some cases as well.
I feel the Stage 1 is a great compromise without having to mess with intakes or exhausts...
I see you are in Canada with that craptastic Canadian blend for fuel. Have you considered water meth to help improve your octane rating? I'm seeing comparable 93/water meth times to my race gas times...
All my times are on 93 octane here in Texas, or a blend of 104 with the regular gas...
I feel the Stage 1 is a great compromise without having to mess with intakes or exhausts...
I see you are in Canada with that craptastic Canadian blend for fuel. Have you considered water meth to help improve your octane rating? I'm seeing comparable 93/water meth times to my race gas times...
All my times are on 93 octane here in Texas, or a blend of 104 with the regular gas...
What octane was being used for the above results on the stage 2 EC tune that ran 11.0@128mph?
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Was hoping it would of been as simple as just that...
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I doubt it, but you may want to consider a E85 blend if you have access to it. E85 has an octane rating of 105. People here in Texas have been adding 4 gallons of E85 to a tank of otherwise 93 octane fuel, raising the equivalent octane to around 97 octane. I don't think they recommend more than 4 gallons though so I caution you on adding too much E85. It's cheaper than buying race gas though.
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I doubt it, but you may want to consider a E85 blend if you have access to it. E85 has an octane rating of 105. People here in Texas have been adding 4 gallons of E85 to a tank of otherwise 93 octane fuel, raising the equivalent octane to around 97 octane. I don't think they recommend more than 4 gallons though so I caution you on adding too much E85. It's cheaper than buying race gas though.
Also, do you happen to know if those E63s's that ran those times had the extra weight of the pano roof on them, or if they just had normal sunroof?
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Yes, all three of our cars have the pano roof, and three different states of tune, though we are all EC.
EC stage 1. 11.4@126
EC stage 2. 11.0@128
EC stage 2 with 50 shot NOS. 10.8@129
The EC stage 1 60ft is 1.9
Both EC stage 2 60ft are 1.6/1.7
EC stage 1. 11.4@126
EC stage 2. 11.0@128
EC stage 2 with 50 shot NOS. 10.8@129
The EC stage 1 60ft is 1.9
Both EC stage 2 60ft are 1.6/1.7
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"As an apocryphal aside, high-end VW tuner HPA has noticed that their roughly 500 hp turbocharged builds seem to do much better on US-grade 91 octane than on Canadian-spec 94. "
Octane explained:
https://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeatur...ers-explained/
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And octace level, for all these cars was average of 100 octane fuel?
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Canada also rates octane differently, so our 94 is not really 94:
"As an apocryphal aside, high-end VW tuner HPA has noticed that their roughly 500 hp turbocharged builds seem to do much better on US-grade 91 octane than on Canadian-spec 94. "
Octane explained:
https://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeatur...ers-explained/
"As an apocryphal aside, high-end VW tuner HPA has noticed that their roughly 500 hp turbocharged builds seem to do much better on US-grade 91 octane than on Canadian-spec 94. "
Octane explained:
https://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeatur...ers-explained/
Thats bizzare. Do you think there is any advantage going with shell V power 91, ethanol free gas?
EC shop in toronto in fact recommends 94 octane to be used with their tunes for Canadian customers.
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I don't think that Autotrader article is correct. Both Canada and the USA use the (RON + MON) / 2 method to determine octane rating. While I'm not an expert in this, I have never read anything that suggests the methodology to determine either RON or MON is either country is different. However, I do believe that the specific hydrocarbon composition of fuel differs both internationally, regionally and seasonally.
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I don't think that Autotrader article is correct. Both Canada and the USA use the (RON + MON) / 2 method to determine octane rating. While I'm not an expert in this, I have never read anything that suggests the methodology to determine either RON or MON is either country is different. However, I do believe that the specific hydrocarbon composition of fuel differs both internationally, regionally and seasonally.
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Curious, any mods other than tune on the EC1 and EC2 stage tunes? Pretty impressive trap numbers.
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So your saying, canadian octane 94 is even lower than 91 octane in the US??
Thats bizzare. Do you think there is any advantage going with shell V power 91, ethanol free gas?
EC shop in toronto in fact recommends 94 octane to be used with their tunes for Canadian customers.
Thats bizzare. Do you think there is any advantage going with shell V power 91, ethanol free gas?
EC shop in toronto in fact recommends 94 octane to be used with their tunes for Canadian customers.
But since "94' is the best crappy gas we get, I will get "91" at Shell only if I cannot get "94" at Petro Canada.
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I don't think that Autotrader article is correct. Both Canada and the USA use the (RON + MON) / 2 method to determine octane rating. While I'm not an expert in this, I have never read anything that suggests the methodology to determine either RON or MON is either country is different. However, I do believe that the specific hydrocarbon composition of fuel differs both internationally, regionally and seasonally.
I may be wrong then. I hope I am! There are bigger worries today, like what cigar am I lighting up tonight?
