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Old 07-17-2022, 01:05 PM
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Reading the W213 forums is messing me up.

Anyone else?
I ventured over there and man there’s some sweet wagons, cars with sick tunes…

Suddenly I need help staying focused to see mine through to plan.

HELP!!
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Same here. They are very attractive ,i'm awaiting one semi-local enough to drive & assess my 212 lol . .

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I'm not really interested in the 213. I know it makes me sound old - but I don't like the ipad dash that a bunch of new cars have. I still prefer the analog (look) gauges.

Also, the 5.5 sounds better to me, the car feels a bit more "raw" as well.

Not saying the 213 is not a nice car - it is a very nice car. Just doesn't quite do it for me. That said, I'd love to have the RWD mode on the 212!
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Old 07-18-2022, 10:38 AM
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mmm S213. I think the S212 looks better, but the S213 has a nicer interior and slightly more power. The S212 blends in better.

But, better believe if a S213 drops to the price I paid for my S212 ($60k), I'll hop on it in a heartbeat.
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My 212 is in getting a wheel bearing and lower control arm. They are covering the bearing, but not the arm, in warranty. I haven't argued them too hard, I've already had well over $100k warranty work done on this car that cost me $80k. Does that make it a $180k car? I had a lower control arm replaces already once too. Oh well, I'm still way ahead, so I just said "sure do it" but I do wonder why they cover the bearing and not the arm? I just asked again out of curiosity.

I do still <heart> my car!! Maybe I'll just get a new style steering wheel to modernize the interior a bit and be happy.

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Issues with the m177 are starting to surface .... and and it's more cost prohibitive to own THAT car out of warranty than the w212

what repairs cost $100k in warranty coverage?
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Issues with the m177 are starting to surface .... and and it's more cost prohibitive to own THAT car out of warranty than the w212

what repairs cost $100k in warranty coverage?
Yikes 100k eeek. 10k typo I hope...

I have been seeing the rear mains , intercooler sensor , some software updates on the 213s. Is there more ? Definitely more cost effective keeping the 212 right now ,agree.
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Issues with the m177 are starting to surface .... and and it's more cost prohibitive to own THAT car out of warranty than the w212

what repairs cost $100k in warranty coverage?
This is the kind of stuff I need to hear, to keep me in the w212.
The big one was whole engine replacement a few years back
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
Anyone else?
I ventured over there and man there’s some sweet wagons, cars with sick tunes…

Suddenly I need help staying focused to see mine through to plan.

HELP!!
This is a tough one. I’ve owned the W211, W212 and now…….W213 E63s. Told myself I’d keep the 2016, but over time the W213 grew on me and my mistake was driving one. Love the platform.

Not quite the rumble of the 5.5, but nasty in it’s own way (especially in S+), and absolutely brutal in performance.

Can’t go wrong on either platform. Still miss the rear end lines of the W212 (not sure what MB was thinking on this with the W213).

End of the day, both great platforms. Perhaps I am nostalgic, but nothing screams German muscle to me like the lines of the W212….Iconic.
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Old 07-18-2022, 09:13 PM
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Can’t go wrong on either platform. Still miss the rear end lines of the W212 (not sure what MB was thinking on this with the W213).

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Exactly my biggest gripe with 213. To me it the rear end of a 213 reminds me of lowered Honda Odyssey LOL
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The w212 with tcu and good ecu tune and BB is brutal as well ...

w213 will likely be my next venture as the rs6 is a wagon (no thanks, no disrespect) and the m5 looks.... Bahahahahhaha ... nuff said about m5; and Tesla plaid is soul less
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
The w212 with tcu and good ecu tune and BB is brutal as well ...

w213 will likely be my next venture as the rs6 is a wagon (no thanks, no disrespect) and the m5 looks.... Bahahahahhaha ... nuff said about m5; and Tesla plaid is soul less
Great points! fully agreed on the Plaid.

Driving to many of us is emotion and AMG captures the sensory and tactile part of that.

Hard to say what the future holds for AMG, but If you own either a 212 or 213, you are living in good times.

Drive them and enjoy. Life’s too short to let them sit.

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The 213 dash has grown on me. I'm happy it's not a stuck-on ipad looking thing. I hated it back when I got my 212, but now I think it looks cool going through the gears with all the lights flashing reaffirming "YES YOU ARE GOING FAST! WaaWaaWAAAAAA"
I like the steering wheel. Mine is looking and feeling old.
The rear. I like the 213 pre-facelift rear. The 213 facelift rear hasn't grown on me yet, and yeah, it's weird. But I cold totally do a pre-facelift. However then I'd ben missing the newest infosystem, and any hope of getting the cooler AMG sport seats. Argh.
Turbos on top - man it looks so easy to upgrade those puppies.

Things I don't like about my car
Steering wheel
No carbon bits
Rear cupholder still broken
160,000 kms

Man, I need to win the lottery and just get both.
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
The 213 dash has grown on me. I'm happy it's not a stuck-on ipad looking thing. I hated it back when I got my 212, but now I think it looks cool going through the gears with all the lights flashing reaffirming "YES YOU ARE GOING FAST! WaaWaaWAAAAAA"
I like the steering wheel. Mine is looking and feeling old.
The rear. I like the 213 pre-facelift rear. The 213 facelift rear hasn't grown on me yet, and yeah, it's weird. But I cold totally do a pre-facelift. However then I'd ben missing the newest infosystem, and any hope of getting the cooler AMG sport seats. Argh.
Turbos on top - man it looks so easy to upgrade those puppies.

Things I don't like about my car
Steering wheel
No carbon bits
Rear cupholder still broken
160,000 kms

Man, I need to win the lottery and just get both.

You can fix all of those items on your car other than the mileage. (Especially the rear cupholder... ) The mileage I would wear as a badge of honor. Got to experience that many miles in such a great car!

There are some cool steering wheels out there that both fit the car's interior and help bring it more modern at the same time.
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Dealer just called, they are adding a propeller shaft to the warranty since after changing the bearing and control arm there is still vibrating.
I love my dealer.
I do love my car.
I hope she never sees this thread.
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LMAO! Yes!!!

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LMAO! Yes!!!




i would pimp that gt63 in a heartbeat ... tru story
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W213 is better in every single way. It’s not even close.
Get one. ASAP.


When I had my old 2014 E63, I thought there was no way MB could improve on this E63 and M157. Man was I wrong. LOL
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W213 is better in every single way. It’s not even close.
Get one. ASAP.


When I had my old 2014 E63, I thought there was no way MB could improve on this E63 and M157. Man was I wrong. LOL
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Awww is there any other reason why you’re always stalking the W213 forum?

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Last year I got my E400 w213 wagon, I find it's a surreal experience and for the life of me I cannot get my mind around HOW awesome the 63s would be.
Had a 2005 Crossfire SRT convertible that was incredibly fast, highest I hit was 145 for miles across the plains following a 911 but still can't fathom the 63


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