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Old 11-10-2022, 12:30 AM
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Does anyone know the cell count of the OEM Catalytic converters

As title states, does anyone happen to know the cell count of the OEM Cats on our M157's? I assume it is fairly restrictive since we only have 2 primary cats while most cars have 2 primaries along with 2 secondary cats.
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why do you want to know
Just curious to know how restrictive the OEM cats are
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number of holes will not let you know how restrictive.
flow test could where you measure pressure before and after for known amount of air to compare to some other cat design for car.

But for most part manufacturers have pretty good flowing cats as they know Less restrictive means better MPG and reduced emissions.

Ps everything I own and seen has 1 cat per bank of engine close to engine w/o2 sensor before and after...

Where do you see secondary?
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Originally Posted by ygmn
number of holes will not let you know how restrictive.
flow test could where you measure pressure before and after for known amount of air to compare to some other cat design for car.

But for most part manufacturers have pretty good flowing cats as they know Less restrictive means better MPG and reduced emissions.

Ps everything I own and seen has 1 cat per bank of engine close to engine w/o2 sensor before and after...

Where do you see secondary?
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As per @ygmn it will not just be the density of the cat (cell count/square inch), but also the length of the convertor which will contribute to the resistance. A limitation of how large a radius the convertor can have is the underhood/chassis packaging that will dictate this variable. MB will then pick a length based on the maximal usable radius to allow them to pass all the regulatory tests, yet maximize performance.

Just adding a HFC (200 cell count for example) will definitely make things louder, but ultimate performance will be gained with some testing (various inlet/outlet shapes/lengths/diameters.... hopefully from the exhaust builder/seller) to choose the proper size convertor for a specific application.

There is a huge incentive to make the car as efficient as possible, but for people seeking HUGE power, the cats always are restrictive whether they are 200 or 100 count.
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Originally Posted by ygmn
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Ps everything I own and seen has 1 cat per bank of engine close to engine w/o2 sensor before and after...

Where do you see secondary?
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My W211 E55K had primary ( before 2nd O2) and secondary (after 2nd O2) cats,. Both were replaced by Longtubes. Then moved to ATL where they emissions test.
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Are the OEM cats 400 or 800 cell? Just curious
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we have 4 cats not 2, each bank has 2 cats in one housing divided.
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Great info everyone! Thanks


Originally Posted by Robert AMG
we have 4 cats not 2, each bank has 2 cats in one housing divided.
Yes you're correct. Upon further inspection of the OEM cats (those things are massive), I can see where it divides. You wouldn't happen to know the cell count of the OEM cats would you?

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