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Old 09-05-2023, 02:25 PM
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You can save a ton of money going with equivalents. There isn't anything particularly special about the MB genuine rotors or pad compounds. I've used the Brembo, VNE, and Zimmerman alternatives and I can't really tell you theres a difference when it comes to braking. They're all aluminum-hatted rotors either pinned or 2-pc bolted. As for the pad compounds, it's the same semi-metallic stuff the other MB's get, albeit huge. I usually go with Brembo everything on these cars for the aesthetics but this setup is pretty much bombproof.

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zimmerman is trash and so are all other brands.
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zimmerman is trash and so are all other brands.
I've been using Zimmerman for a decade on a professional level, I dunno about that. Most "55" owners have had a run-in with VNE and came out with superb results. What negative experience did you have? They get a bad rap for the adverse things metallic pads do to them so I've seen them labelled as soft.

I do prefer Brembo for the packaging and the coating. The Z-Wear stuff is just primer.
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Originally Posted by E63SAMG2014
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OEM or Brembo
zimmerman is trash and so are all other brands.
Another 2 cents worth of opinion:

Not at all. Have used Zimmermann plenty of times and they are generally solid. They are/were also OEM supplier for Audi.
Plenty of other brands out there (in general) that are excellent.

I"m 90% that Brembo was the OEM supplier for the steel brakes. but I may have that wrong.
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That was the CCB rotor part numbers
They screwed up or OP’s VIN came with CCB’s
Matbe it still has them? Pics?
Ah I see.
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I can get non-CCB all 4 rotors, pads, sensors, everything required for less then $1,500 Canuck bucks - that's barely over a grand USD for all four corners.
Installation is just a tad harder then a wheel change.

OP try doing it yourself! It's super easy after the first time
That is awesome do you mind sharing where do you get it from? I understand the majority of the cost was labour DIY always the way to go if you know what you are doing and if you want it done right,
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My $1400 installed brake job - all four corners with sensors rotors and pads installed ... OEM Brembo front pads and rotors and Zimmerman rear rotors - 5k miles on these and no issues

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Last time I did the brakes on my 63 it cost me $400 for all 4 rotors and ceramic pads all around. Did the work in my driveway.
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That is awesome do you mind sharing where do you get it from? I understand the majority of the cost was labour DIY always the way to go if you know what you are doing and if you want it done right,

My friend owns a garage that's his price to me no markup for "good" stuff.

You can go even cheaper if you want, check out front rotors at $142 and rears at $70
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
My friend owns a garage that's his price to me no markup for "good" stuff.

You can go even cheaper if you want, check out front rotors at $142 and rears at $70
https://partsavatar.ca/centric-parts...otor-128-35052
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Thanks man appreciate the links.
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Last time I did the brakes on my 63 it cost me $400 for all 4 rotors and ceramic pads all around. Did the work in my driveway.
But those were not Mercedes parts, not even OEM. Plus W212 63 brakes, especially the fronts, are much more expensive that X166/W166 63s.
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But those were not Mercedes parts, not even OEM. Plus W212 63 brakes, especially the fronts, are much more expensive that X166/W166 63s.
Depends on where you shop for the rotors. I can find the E63 rotors for less than the GL/GLE/GLS. I did my brakes years ago so the prices were a bit less than now but you can still get a great deal on rotors if you are OK with aftermarket. I've been running aftermarket rotors and pads on my MB's for over 25 years without issue.
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Welp, happy ending to the story.

Dealer obviously screwed up the quote and wanted to make right - offered the full brake job for just the cost of labor. So instead of a $22K bill it was $500, all four corners pads and rotors.

That being said I think that's the end of the line of the adventure as much as I enjoyed the car. Don't have the time to wrench everything but hate fighting with the stealerships. Going to put it up for sale and maybe get into a newer one down the road!



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Welp, happy ending to the story.

Dealer obviously screwed up the quote and wanted to make right - offered the full brake job for just the cost of labor. So instead of a $22K bill it was $500, all four corners pads and rotors.

That being said I think that's the end of the line of the adventure as much as I enjoyed the car. Don't have the time to wrench everything but hate fighting with the stealerships. Going to put it up for sale and maybe get into a newer one down the road!
Well if that's the case they really, REALLY gave you a fantastic deal.
Not sure why you'd want to sell because of a simple dealer, but sure.
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Well if that's the case they really, REALLY gave you a fantastic deal.
Not sure why you'd want to sell because of a simple dealer, but sure.
Yeah that was a slam dunk for sure, cheaper than I could have done it.

Just the constant battles with the dealers and local shops - all 3 MB service shops around here are pretty anti customer and the two indys are booked way out and not exactly cheap. I'm getting super busy with kids as they're getting more involved in multiple sports along with work obligations and sometime it's better just to clear the deck and simplify life.

It's a great car but there will be others when life slows down!
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Well if that's the case they really, REALLY gave you a fantastic deal.
Not sure why you'd want to sell because of a simple dealer, but sure.
Ya I don't understand either, I actually think OP won the lottery, getting such a deal. Especially if they put CCBs for that price.

To OP: I mean, I get it, a shiny new ride is nice but you still need to go to a dealership to buy the vehicle, the vehicle still needs annual maintenance so either you go to the dealership or independent shop or wrench yourself. Unless you get an electric vehicle which at least doesn't have oil change and less frequent visits to the dealership (depending on how reliable the technology is in that EV). The EV if reliable then great if it isn't, not many technicians know how to fix them and chances are, parts might take time (months if worse?) to arrive from Germany if anything needs to be replaced.

The W212 is a very solid platform and pretty reliable, unless you genuinely hate the car or just want something new for the sake of something new, I don't know why you should get rid of it, the V8 have the sound and power to boot, the rawness is just not comparable to a modern car due to sound regulations and all sorts of emission regulations, newer cars just feels much more disconnected and computer on wheels instead of the driver oriented W212.

The W212, just like the new vehicle you might be getting (if not EV) still will need oil changes, so nothing is really different. If you don't want to wrench yourself or go with dealerships, you could go to an independent shop that you trust.

If you still decide to sell your vehicle, good luck with sale and please do share what you are considering and photos of your new ride.
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Originally Posted by NoVAe63s
Yeah that was a slam dunk for sure, cheaper than I could have done it.

Just the constant battles with the dealers and local shops - all 3 MB service shops around here are pretty anti customer and the two indys are booked way out and not exactly cheap. I'm getting super busy with kids as they're getting more involved in multiple sports along with work obligations and sometime it's better just to clear the deck and simplify life.

It's a great car but there will be others when life slows down!
Hmmm, that explains the decision. Should had refreshed the page before I replied. Sorry about that OP. GLWS, and look forwarding to hearing your impressions of your new ride and what you ended up getting.
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Ya I don't understand either, I actually think OP won the lottery, getting such a deal. Especially if they put CCBs for that price.

To OP: I mean, I get it, a shiny new ride is nice but you still need to go to a dealership to buy the vehicle, the vehicle still needs annual maintenance so either you go to the dealership or independent shop or wrench yourself. Unless you get an electric vehicle which at least doesn't have oil change and less frequent visits to the dealership (depending on how reliable the technology is in that EV). The EV if reliable then great if it isn't, not many technicians know how to fix them and chances are, parts might take time (months if worse?) to arrive from Germany if anything needs to be replaced.

The W212 is a very solid platform and pretty reliable, unless you genuinely hate the car or just want something new for the sake of something new, I don't know why you should get rid of it, the V8 have the sound and power to boot, the rawness is just not comparable to a modern car due to sound regulations and all sorts of emission regulations, newer cars just feels much more disconnected and computer on wheels instead of the driver oriented W212.

The W212, just like the new vehicle you might be getting (if not EV) still will need oil changes, so nothing is really different. If you don't want to wrench yourself or go with dealerships, you could go to an independent shop that you trust.

If you still decide to sell your vehicle, good luck with sale and please do share what you are considering and photos of your new ride.
The basic maintenance is not the issue, it's all the other headaches we've seen posts about. I already wrench on the other two cars we have as well as an outboard engine (Yamaha F250) so the plate is plenty full.

Trust me I really don't want to give it up but it's just not the ideal time in my life anymore. I'll sell this and get into the new Lexus LX550 when it comes out next year so I have a better tow vehicle, better beach tripper etc. and hopefully less trips to the parts counter. Someone else will take this thing to the next level and enjoy it, it's what it really deserves given it's still stock, still has MB warranty and low miles. Had my fun, time for the next chapter!
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The basic maintenance is not the issue, it's all the other headaches we've seen posts about. I already wrench on the other two cars we have as well as an outboard engine (Yamaha F250) so the plate is plenty full.

Trust me I really don't want to give it up but it's just not the ideal time in my life anymore. I'll sell this and get into the new Lexus LX550 when it comes out next year so I have a better tow vehicle, better beach tripper etc. and hopefully less trips to the parts counter. Someone else will take this thing to the next level and enjoy it, it's what it really deserves given it's still stock, still has MB warranty and low miles. Had my fun, time for the next chapter!
I see, fair enough, enjoy your new ride. Going from sedan to SUV will be a different experience.
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At least a MB Dealer tried to make it right and offer you a pretty good deal; that is REFRESHING
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I see, fair enough, enjoy your new ride. Going from sedan to SUV will be a different experience.
Thanks!
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At least a MB Dealer tried to make it right and offer you a pretty good deal; that is REFRESHING
Well, it wasn't without something in it for them... had to redo my customer survey and indicate issues were rectified. I was happy to do so for such a good deal, and yes it was refreshing for once to come out on top in the end!
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Well, it wasn't without something in it for them... had to redo my customer survey and indicate issues were rectified. I was happy to do so for such a good deal, and yes it was refreshing for once to come out on top in the end!
But did you really?
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But did you really?
Let me just have this moment of ignorant bliss...
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Originally Posted by NoVAe63s
Welp, happy ending to the story.

Dealer obviously screwed up the quote and wanted to make right - offered the full brake job for just the cost of labor. So instead of a $22K bill it was $500, all four corners pads and rotors.

That being said I think that's the end of the line of the adventure as much as I enjoyed the car. Don't have the time to wrench everything but hate fighting with the stealerships. Going to put it up for sale and maybe get into a newer one down the road!
wow. Curious why the dealer would lose over $1000 in parts because of a misquote but hey, if that's the case, power to you - maybe you are a great customer of theirs or they have been making this mistake more than you are aware and they are being dinged with customer surveys. Kudos to the manager to get good word of mouth out to the community about their dealership.
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wow. Curious why the dealer would lose over $1000 in parts because of a misquote but hey, if that's the case, power to you - maybe you are a great customer of theirs or they have been making this mistake more than you are aware and they are being dinged with customer surveys. Kudos to the manager to get good word of mouth out to the community about their dealership.
Except they don't know that OP is switching vehicles and leaving them so they lost more than $1000.


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