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Idiot cops and stock exhausts.....(yeah, and they wonder why)

Old Aug 16, 2024 | 08:25 AM
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Idiot cops and stock exhausts.....(yeah, and they wonder why)

So, I am leaving my neighborhood going to a bank two blocks away. Kinda busy four lane I need to go left on....opening, I go. I actually SAW a cop car (unmarked but obvious) and pull out, use my blinker, get into the right lane and turn into a bank....cop follows. So, I go to the drive thru...do my business and the idiot cop with an attitude pulls me over into a parking lot of a business associate (cop said I should not have pulled into Dr. "X's" parking lot as part of the exchange...I offered to call "Dr. X" at his cell number and ask if it was okay...."...

Cops first words...."You SOUND like your going sixty"...So, okay, "you have me clocked at sixty with your radar gun or did I sound like I was going sixty?". He then claims that he is trained on visual speed judgement and I looked to be going sixty...."So, I SOUNDED like I was at sixty or LOOKED like I was at sixty? And, for the camera, what is your name and badge number for my video?". He tells me that I dont need video because he has video...."Okay, but I dont need to FOIA my video, sounds like sixty is going to be great internet fodder"

He demands license and insurance, of course. The car is a "Company Car" and he then (illegally) demands to see my insurance by holding my phone. Of course I decline to allow him to hold my phone...only an ignorant person hands a cop their phone. He then illegally demands to see my name (individually) on the insurance policy - not understanding that in FL a CAR is insured, not a driver. ANYONE who I let drive my car is insured by default.

The idiot cop then claims his "printer is broken" and he can not write me a ticket! BULLSHEET! This idiot cop knew I had video, knew he was looking like an idiot and knew he did not want this one to go to court.

The cops wonder why the majority of the citizens have no use for them (on top of of the fact that we called the police 17 days in a row, they did nothing about homeless people who then broke into and destroyed a medical faclity - it is still empty).

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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 08:49 AM
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Cop: You sound like you were going 60.
OldMan: No, that was just me farting.
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 08:53 AM
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More stupid thing - in FL (and I am sure other states). If an insurance policy lapses pretty much on that day the state gets a notice from the insurance company and the state knows immediately. There simply is no reason what so ever for a cop to ask for proof of insurance, the state already knows (and is more accurate than a screen shot or printed page).

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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 08:56 AM
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I would almost want to get the ticket to see what the cop wrote down and which statute was violated. While your area may have noise ordnances, I doubt they have a look-up table that says "Quiet=slow, Loud=60".

I know growing up in Lauderdale and learning to drive, we were told that if the tires squeal that was considered reckless driving. That was back in the good old days where driver's ed was taught in schools and they showed those horrific B&W films of car accidents with heads on the side of the road and mangled body parts. Ah, the smell of puke outside the classroom.
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by OldManAndHisCar
More stupid thing - in FL (and I am sure other states). If an insurance policy lapses pretty much on that day the state gets a notice from the insurance company and the state knows immediately. There simply is no reason whatsoever for a cop to ask for proof of insurance, the state already knows (and is more accurate than a screen shot or printed page).
I really think it's one of those carry-over ordnances from 80+ years ago when technology was handwritten paper. Now it's just a way to harass you.
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 09:00 AM
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You sounded like you were going 60?
Cop sounded like he was having a slow day.
I would have pleaded for a ticket just to hear the cop's testimony in court.
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 09:03 AM
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Also, what does "going 60" sound like? My car is generally quieter cruising at 60 on the highway.

So, he was trained on "visual speed judgement"? Did he pass the test? Unless you are using VASCAR, it's really hard to tell if a car is going 45 or 60. I'd like to see what the judge would say in traffic court. "Officer, when were your eyeballs last calibrated?"
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 09:05 AM
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What a Rookie.. If He had only stuck with his line of questioning a bit longer, I'm convinced you would have given up that body in the trunk.
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What a Rookie.. If He had only stuck with his line of questioning a bit longer, I'm convinced you would have given up that body in the trunk.

Oh, NO rookie at all. He was QUITE angry. They get even madder now that they know that we as citizens are recording them as much as they do us....What is still amazing to me is the sheer number of police who can not pass a normal Govt drug test (due to a TUE). The unions to protect them and for an even more idiotic reality that for some reason Qualified Immunity has not been over turned nation wide.











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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 09:23 AM
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I've been pulled over for doing 55 in a 45 on a dual divided highway. It was clearly a speed trap. I was polite to the cop and truly didn't realize I was going over the speed limit. He saw I had a radar detector and asked if they are any good. I said apparently not -- the problem is you become desensitized to the warning because of so many false warnings. He also noticed I had a dashcam (which records audio as well as video). He gave me a warning and advice to drive safely. I was driving the SL at the time and probably gave the impression that I would fight any ticket in court. The SL looks more expensive than it is. You have to be a Mercedes aficionado (or at least a car nut) to know that AMG cars are more than a Mercedes with a body kit.

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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 09:47 AM
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I was polite to the cop and truly didn't realize I was going over the speed limit. He saw I had a radar detector and asked if they are any good. I said apparently not -- the problem is you become desensitized to the warning because of so many false warnings. He also noticed I had a dashcam (which records audio as well as video). He gave me a warning and advice to drive safely
​​​​​​​Sounds like a much easier and faster interaction than the OP.
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
Also, what does "going 60" sound like? My car is generally quieter cruising at 60 on the highway.

So, he was trained on "visual speed judgement"? Did he pass the test? Unless you are using VASCAR, it's really hard to tell if a car is going 45 or 60. I'd like to see what the judge would say in traffic court. "Officer, when were your eyeballs last calibrated?"
and... Ears, sounds like those needs to be calibrated as well.

If a car is taking off (well not flooring it) from a light before it shifts it always sounds louder before shifting (obviously) but it is unlikely the person was going 60.
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Not too long ago I got into an argument with a local cop at one of our offices. A guy high on something was harassing patients in our parking lot. He even tried to get into a bus from a retirement community that was bringing a person to our office. Called the police - took them almost an hour to arrive (they are lucky we did not have to shoot the guy, as many of our staff are armed).

So, the cop says "He just wanted coffee" and said he does not have time to arrest every junky. I sent an email to the Mayor, Chief and on and on. Two days later I get pulled over by the same cop, turning into my parking lot - him claiming I did not use my blinker (I did).

The cop was mad that we had a valid complaint. Funny enough, he was a PT at another clinic where they fired him as a PT (it is our right to deny service to anyone, for any reason).

And, this is how a Meth Head hides from the cops (the guy did OD and die about three weeks later).



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Shame, appears as if this guy had a promising career as an HVAC service tech.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
and... Ears, sounds like those needs to be calibrated as well.

If a car is taking off (well not flooring it) from a light before it shifts it always sounds louder before shifting (obviously) but it is unlikely the person was going 60.
I wonder if you can't drive a Dodge Challenger R/T or SRT Hellcat in Fleriduh. Those are much louder stock than our Mercedes. They are doing at least 80 while stopped at the traffic light.

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Writing tickets is the only source of revenue for some towns, like Coffee City Texas which has 250 residents and 50 cops. Yes, one cop per five residents. I sheet you not!

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Writing tickets is the only source of revenue for some towns, like Coffee City Texas which has 250 residents and 50 cops. Yes, one cop per five residents. I sheet you not!

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There are three police departments near me that have been shut own entirely for being corrupt (speed traps). Then again, I did move to Florida from just outside near Chicago ....
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Can't even call it "news" as it's been going on a long time and there's no indication things have gotten even one iota better. People will just have to put up with it, forever.

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Originally Posted by JettaRed
I wonder if you can't drive a Dodge Challenger R/T or SRT Hellcat in Fleriduh. Those are much louder stock than our Mercedes. They are doing at least 80 while stopped at the traffic light.
Sorry for the late reply, ya I am not sure how the sound regulations are across the States, will stink if you can't drive what you like even in stock form.
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Op, I didn’t see it mentioned but did you make sure to report the officer? Perhaps he loses something valuable like his job because he lied about the ticket printer being broken when in fact, it was not.

Give it to them every chance you can as I’m the person that shows up to court for a parking ticket with pictures of illegally parked cops. Ive also gone to internal affairs when a pig harrassed me because he didn’t like me at a table with the mayor when negotiating his ability to ticket citizens outside his jurisdiction and duties. At the time I knew nothing would happen to the piggy. Today piggy has been out of that job for quite a while, fired. Get it on their file. I’m proud to have added to the takedown of the Chief of that department because today there is much better rapport between everyone involved.
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Op, I didn’t see it mentioned but did you make sure to report the officer? Perhaps he loses something valuable like his job because he lied about the ticket printer being broken when in fact, it was not.

Give it to them every chance you can as I’m the person that shows up to court for a parking ticket with pictures of illegally parked cops. Ive also gone to internal affairs when a pig harrassed me because he didn’t like me at a table with the mayor when negotiating his ability to ticket citizens outside his jurisdiction and duties. At the time I knew nothing would happen to the piggy. Today piggy has been out of that job for quite a while, fired. Get it on their file. I’m proud to have added to the takedown of the Chief of that department because today there is much better rapport between everyone involved.
wasn't this the plot of The Batman?
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Some years ago I could have had a VERY large law suit against a police department. A very wise lawyer asked me if I needed the money (I didnt) and how many years did I want to be mad for? Well, I am over being mad....

And, never, EVER trust a cop. I dont care if the cop is your brother...
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wasn't this the plot of The Batman?

Yes, if they could get him in a gtr black series
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Some years ago I could have had a VERY large law suit against a police department. A very wise lawyer asked me if I needed the money (I didnt) and how many years did I want to be mad for? Well, I am over being mad....
Great advice from the lawyer. Anger only hurts the person being angry!

I would say to NEVER trust the court system to be just. There are a couple of verses in the Bible that warns against taking your neighbor to court. Something about the judge deciding in favor of the other party and throwing you in prison. I guess not much has changed in the last couple thousands of years.
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In today’s day and age, when cellphone cameras are ubiquitous, it’s a fool’s errand to misbehave in public. I like to think that the ordinary cop(criminal justice degree) is smarter than the average criminal. I like to think that they know better. Paradoxically, the better bad guy(at being bad) is the cop, if they are so inclined, can be a much better bad guy, than any bad guy.
The real question is, why are cops so prone to “copping” an attitude.
Law enforcement today starts out with the assumption that everyone is a criminal bad guy, until proven otherwise.
The next item on the agenda is, no cop will ever stop, once aggravated, in throwing as many accusations as possible, to see if any will stick, to justify their original stop.
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