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Old Apr 1, 2025 | 03:55 PM
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Changing oil, finding snakes, getting bit and falling to the car....

So...I get my new Molygen into the car. Ready to start it...Button everything up, get the key...getting in...

I have one foot off of the ground falling into the drivers seat. Just as I start to lean in a black snake shoots out from under the GLS towards me - jumping backwards and falling down (into the seat) I pull in my foot, bite my tongue as bad as any human can bite their tongue...blood pouring from my mouth the snake can not be found...to that, this is a HARMLESS black snake, maybe 3' long. Not some rattle snake, cotton mouth or python (all live here). I see the most innocent snake....and got bit.

For me? Well, I blame the folks at FCP as my order got here early. Had it got here at their estimated time I would not have yet changed the oil.
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Old Apr 1, 2025 | 05:48 PM
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Jebus - an advantage of living in the chilly Northeast. No snakes or scorpions up here!
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Old Apr 1, 2025 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OldManAndHisCar
So...I get my new Molygen into the car. Ready to start it...Button everything up, get the key...getting in...

I have one foot off of the ground falling into the drivers seat. Just as I start to lean in a black snake shoots out from under the GLS towards me - jumping backwards and falling down (into the seat) I pull in my foot, bite my tongue as bad as any human can bite their tongue...blood pouring from my mouth the snake can not be found...to that, this is a HARMLESS black snake, maybe 3' long. Not some rattle snake, cotton mouth or python (all live here). I see the most innocent snake....and got bit.

For me? Well, I blame the folks at FCP as my order got here early. Had it got here at their estimated time I would not have yet changed the oil.
Ah! Actual snake, I thought we were talking about snake oil when I read the title. Glad to hear you are fine.
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... Well, I blame the folks at FCP as my order got here early. Had it got here at their estimated time I would not have yet changed the oil.
LOL! Could I ever start a political firestorm with that comment!
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Old Apr 1, 2025 | 08:35 PM
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By the way, I changed the oil in the C350 with some Molygen New Generation 5W-40 that I didn't want to go to waste because it is only API SN rated. But I figure the car was happy with SN before SP came out, and she seems to like it very much. I was taken aback by the green color at first, thinking I had just poured antifreeze into my engine. But no, it was just green oil. I also figure for a non-turbo engine, LSPI is less of an issue. I actually got much better mileage with it on a recent trip of 65 miles mostly highway. I saw about a 10% improvement.


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Old Apr 1, 2025 | 09:01 PM
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When I saw the title of the thread(quite catchy actually) I immediately thought someone played the old rubber snake in the car gag on you. Come to think of it, if I am ever in your neighborhood, I might just set that gag up for your enjoyment. Maybe I will even record it and post it to the forum, so everyone can enjoy it.
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
By the way, I changed the oil in the C350 with some Molygen New Generation 5W-40 that I didn't want to go to waste because it is only API SN rated. But I figure the car was happy with SN before SP came out, and she seems to like it very much. I was taken aback by the green color at first, thinking I had just poured antifreeze into my engine. But no, it was just green oil. I also figure for a non-turbo engine, LSPI is less of an issue. I actually got much better mileage with it on a recent trip of 65 miles mostly highway. I saw about a 10% improvement.

Ah departing from Pennzoil? Interesting, good to try different things : )
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
. I was taken aback by the green color at first, thinking I had just poured antifreeze into my engine. But no, it was just green oil.

That was my first "Oh Shiit" moment of the day.....
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Ah departing from Pennzoil? Interesting, good to try different things : )
I'm still using Pennzoil in my SL400. I had bought the oil change kit with 7 liters of Molygen from FCP last year before the API SP rating became a thing. So, I thought I would try it in the non-turbo M276. As I said, the car seems to run really well with the Molygen (which is also discounted by FCP as "overstock" now).
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
I'm still using Pennzoil in my SL400. I had bought the oil change kit with 7 liters of Molygen from FCP last year before the API SP rating became a thing. So, I thought I would try it in the non-turbo M276. As I said, the car seems to run really well with the Molygen (which is also discounted by FCP as "overstock" now).
Thanks for bolding the important parts, much easier to read for people like me with poor reading comprehension skills.
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Thanks for bolding the important parts, much easier to read for people like me with poor reading comprehension skills.
No problem. You're welcome.
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 05:38 PM
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No problem. You're welcome.
Speaking of which, will you try different types of engine oil or still perfectly happy with Pennzoil on the SL 400 as well?
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
I'm still using Pennzoil in my SL400. I had bought the oil change kit with 7 liters of Molygen from FCP last year before the API SP rating became a thing. So, I thought I would try it in the non-turbo M276. As I said, the car seems to run really well with the Molygen (which is also discounted by FCP as "overstock" now).
SN formula is one of the greatest dry lubricant there is because ZDDP clings super well and so does Molybdenum too.

LM5W-40 SN is a better lubricant than LM5W-40 SP formula.

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SN formula is one of the greatest dry lubricant there is because ZDDP clings super well and so does Molybdenum too.

LM5W-40 SN is a better lubricant than LM5W-40 SP formula.
Good to know. It seems FCP is discounting the Molygen, so it may be a good buy for non-turbo cars.
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Speaking of which, will you try different types of engine oil or still perfectly happy with Pennzoil on the SL 400 as well?
For now, I'm sticking with the Pennzoil for the SL400.
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
For now, I'm sticking with the Pennzoil for the SL400.
I see.
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
Good to know. It seems FCP is discounting the Molygen, so it may be a good buy for non-turbo cars.

Wait, am I NOT supposed to have Molygen in my turbo car???? @CaliBenzDriver
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I wish, my tongue is still jacked up....it is a funny story however.
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Wait, am I NOT supposed to have Molygen in my turbo car???? @CaliBenzDriver
I know your question was to Cali. I may try it in my turbo car at some point, but I don't want to jump around too much. I did also notice that my non-turbo engine sounds quieter on startup and idling with the Molygen, not that it was unusually noisy to begin with.
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Originally Posted by OldManAndHisCar
Wait, am I NOT supposed to have Molygen in my turbo car???? @CaliBenzDriver
In your turbo engine you should use the manufacturer recommended lubricants unless you've decided to experiment non-factory setups...


JR mentioned that because he scored a sale on original LM 5W40 API-SN that's not as good as newer API-SP against pre-ignition (LSPI) issues on turbos.

This is only an issue on extremely hot pistons when uncontrolled oil is bypassing stuck rings to spontaneously pre-ignite to explode a piston proper.


You may get the upper leg with spray cooled pistons at low speed combined with clean sealed rings lubricated with API-SP formula. That's what MOD-4 delivers.


The key is....:
LSPI needs extreme piston heat
No dry pistons > no problem!



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