2018 W213 E63 AMG Getting Closer
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Ill be keeping my facelift w212 while I await the w213 facelift in a few years. Hell the facelift may come out in 2019, Im sure AMG is reading all the comments about the ugly rear end.
The w204 facelift looks better than the current w205 as well on the exterior, Mercedes needs to get more aggressive with their recent designs.
My dealer told me last Friday that the w213 E63 will start arriving at their dealership(Princeton, NJ) in late April/early May, and that there will be a refresh in 24 months, so probably a 2020 model out in May 2019. I think I will be doing the same and keep my 14', since it only has 6500 miles, and wait for the refresh 2020.
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Furthermore, I like the ability to be able to be able to lower or raise the car as I please and on the fly with a fairly cheap lowering module.
I dont autoX or take my car to the track where having a spring setup be better since I would have the option of going coilovers and such so for me it works and works well.
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Anyone know when this will make its debut in Canada.
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Nice pictures. I like the forged wheels even though I probably won't be paying extra for them since they are the same size as the regular wheels.
The grill looks like the radiator would be vulnerable to rocks since there is no mesh. Not sure if an issue, but on the 911 Turbo forum some people have had their radiators destroyed by rocks due to the lack of a mesh.
The grill looks like the radiator would be vulnerable to rocks since there is no mesh. Not sure if an issue, but on the 911 Turbo forum some people have had their radiators destroyed by rocks due to the lack of a mesh.
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Since it is looking like the interior options for E63 will be limited, I'm toying with the idea of buying a Macan Turbo (used) to replace our C300 and then reapplying for the E63 maybe a year later when things get more interesting. Only issue is my wife does like HUD a lot.
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Another thing that is disappointing is the tires. The car in the showroom photo above is wearing Pirelli P Zero.
However the LA Autoshow car was wearing Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. Michelin also told me that the E63S is their first OEM fitment. So I'm somewhat surprised to see this car on those awful Pirelli tires.
However the LA Autoshow car was wearing Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. Michelin also told me that the E63S is their first OEM fitment. So I'm somewhat surprised to see this car on those awful Pirelli tires.
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go fast grocery getter wagon
power / performance wise would be like driving the F10 550 when it first came out in 2010 with identical power output. Overall, being the 1st generation and it was made among the first few batches, I did have some annoying car issues with the Macan which I kind of expected and accepted as part of the early adopter. If I have to give it a rating 1-10. I would give it a 7.5, no higher.
If I compared this CUV to my last car, being the F10 M5 (pre LCI), it is night & day difference. The M5 that I had consumed way too much oil as I was going thru 1 litre every 600km or so such that I had to visit my bimmer dealership so often that they knew what I want the moment I drove up to their service reception entrance. LOL.
As you know, Porsche tech is at least 5 yrs behind everyone, well, may be not the Panamera. If you do end up getting the Macan Turbo, it would be a nice upgrade (in comparison to the MB C300) for sure.
If I compared this CUV to my last car, being the F10 M5 (pre LCI), it is night & day difference. The M5 that I had consumed way too much oil as I was going thru 1 litre every 600km or so such that I had to visit my bimmer dealership so often that they knew what I want the moment I drove up to their service reception entrance. LOL.
As you know, Porsche tech is at least 5 yrs behind everyone, well, may be not the Panamera. If you do end up getting the Macan Turbo, it would be a nice upgrade (in comparison to the MB C300) for sure.
Just noticed you have a Macan Turbo. How do you find that?
Since it is looking like the interior options for E63 will be limited, I'm toying with the idea of buying a Macan Turbo (used) to replace our C300 and then reapplying for the E63 maybe a year later when things get more interesting. Only issue is my wife does like HUD a lot.
Since it is looking like the interior options for E63 will be limited, I'm toying with the idea of buying a Macan Turbo (used) to replace our C300 and then reapplying for the E63 maybe a year later when things get more interesting. Only issue is my wife does like HUD a lot.
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ugh last gen was soooooo nice looking, minus the crappy interior. This looks way too soft, fine for a c class not aggressive enough for the e63. I believe BMW will also be disappointing but still have to see. We'll actually have to consider an audi, jeeez
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Looks like we will be starting to get some real numbers: http://www.carscoops.com/2017/04/wat...go-from-0.html
"Before taking a look at the video, let us tell you that it reaches 62 mph (100 km/h) faster than the official number of 3.3 seconds, in just 3.24sec, and 124 mph (200 km/h) in 10.83sec, whereas the 186 mph (300 km/h) barrier is hit in 33.56sec."
(3.24 sec. 0 to 100 km/h = 3.129 sec. 0 to 60 mp/h)
"Before taking a look at the video, let us tell you that it reaches 62 mph (100 km/h) faster than the official number of 3.3 seconds, in just 3.24sec, and 124 mph (200 km/h) in 10.83sec, whereas the 186 mph (300 km/h) barrier is hit in 33.56sec."
(3.24 sec. 0 to 100 km/h = 3.129 sec. 0 to 60 mp/h)
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quote-Working in conjunction with the 9-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission, which still has a gear ready at 183 mph (295 km/h), the 4.0-liter twin-turbo V8 engine develops 604 horses (612 PS) and 627 pound-feet (850 Nm) of torque
HMMM, A dual clutch and not a MCT?
I think this car is going to badass and definitely fast, I just wont believe any times until I see it in person. When the 14-16 E63s came out with all the awd rants, they claimed 3.5 to 60 and 11.50 1/4 , but most owners were going 11.8 or 11.9 in real world conditions stock, not saying none, but very few stock under 11.7(that I seen in the forum). The torque management in the older model was just horrible and killed 60' times, maybe it will be better in the new one. So this new car with 30ish more hp and 30ish more ft/lbs torque, I can't see it going 10's stock, sorry, just don't believe it.
Either way, it's still going to be sick and finally a fast MB sedan with a nice interior.
HMMM, A dual clutch and not a MCT?
I think this car is going to badass and definitely fast, I just wont believe any times until I see it in person. When the 14-16 E63s came out with all the awd rants, they claimed 3.5 to 60 and 11.50 1/4 , but most owners were going 11.8 or 11.9 in real world conditions stock, not saying none, but very few stock under 11.7(that I seen in the forum). The torque management in the older model was just horrible and killed 60' times, maybe it will be better in the new one. So this new car with 30ish more hp and 30ish more ft/lbs torque, I can't see it going 10's stock, sorry, just don't believe it.
Either way, it's still going to be sick and finally a fast MB sedan with a nice interior.
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It's not a DCT trans it's still an MCT with 2 extra gears.
It could il's be possible even this new one will have a similar torque limit to the older one which the whole purpose of it was to protect the trans from damage as a resukt of too much torque in the lower gears.
I really hope the tranny lag/limits have been reduced this time around.
It could il's be possible even this new one will have a similar torque limit to the older one which the whole purpose of it was to protect the trans from damage as a resukt of too much torque in the lower gears.
I really hope the tranny lag/limits have been reduced this time around.
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Looks like we will be starting to get some real numbers: http://www.carscoops.com/2017/04/wat...go-from-0.html
"Before taking a look at the video, let us tell you that it reaches 62 mph (100 km/h) faster than the official number of 3.3 seconds, in just 3.24sec, and 124 mph (200 km/h) in 10.83sec, whereas the 186 mph (300 km/h) barrier is hit in 33.56sec."
(3.24 sec. 0 to 100 km/h = 3.129 sec. 0 to 60 mp/h)
"Before taking a look at the video, let us tell you that it reaches 62 mph (100 km/h) faster than the official number of 3.3 seconds, in just 3.24sec, and 124 mph (200 km/h) in 10.83sec, whereas the 186 mph (300 km/h) barrier is hit in 33.56sec."
(3.24 sec. 0 to 100 km/h = 3.129 sec. 0 to 60 mp/h)
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one thing from the video that doesnt really compute to me is that if its going 0-100 kph in 3.24 and to 200kph (124mph) in 10.83 then in theory we have a car that does 1/4 in the upper 10 sec range, but only does 100-200 kph in 7.59 sec? that 100-200 time doesnt match with a upper 10 sec car ... tune only w212 e63s are doing 100-200 under 7 sec but have hard time getting in the 10s so that video's numbers (either the 0-200 or the 0-100 ) seem off
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one thing from the video that doesnt really compute to me is that if its going 0-100 kph in 3.24 and to 200kph (124mph) in 10.83 then in theory we have a car that does 1/4 in the upper 10 sec range, but only does 100-200 kph in 7.59 sec? that 100-200 time doesnt match with a upper 10 sec car ... tune only w212 e63s are doing 100-200 under 7 sec but have hard time getting in the 10s so that video's numbers (either the 0-200 or the 0-100 ) seem off
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Agreed... I would think that the road in the video would have some negative effect on the performance compared to a 1/4 mile track.