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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
one thing from the video that doesnt really compute to me is that if its going 0-100 kph in 3.24 and to 200kph (124mph) in 10.83 then in theory we have a car that does 1/4 in the upper 10 sec range, but only does 100-200 kph in 7.59 sec? that 100-200 time doesnt match with a upper 10 sec car ... tune only w212 e63s are doing 100-200 under 7 sec but have hard time getting in the 10s so that video's numbers (either the 0-200 or the 0-100 ) seem off

Yes, the whole video/article is shady to me. That's why in my last comment I wrote about the DCT and just said hmmm(lol), we all now that the new w213 E63 will have an MCT. Good eyes/observation in spotting the differences in times posted compared to real world numbers.
Also, 6 tenths faster than the previous model with only a 30hp bump??? Come on

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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 03:44 PM
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here is an interesting vid i found time matching acceleration against the current audi rs7.... seems like the new e63s doesnt catch up to the rs7 until 140kph or so...


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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
one thing from the video that doesnt really compute to me is that if its going 0-100 kph in 3.24 and to 200kph (124mph) in 10.83 then in theory we have a car that does 1/4 in the upper 10 sec range, but only does 100-200 kph in 7.59 sec? that 100-200 time doesnt match with a upper 10 sec car ... tune only w212 e63s are doing 100-200 under 7 sec but have hard time getting in the 10s so that video's numbers (either the 0-200 or the 0-100 ) seem off
those numbers are off. Looks like from this link it's more like low-mid 11s for 0-200km/h

http://www.automobile-catalog.com/ca...atic_plus.html
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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those numbers are off. Looks like from this link it's more like low-mid 11s for 0-200km/h

http://www.automobile-catalog.com/ca...atic_plus.html
that would be even worse as it would make the 100-200 time 8+ sec
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 09:28 PM
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Another reference of 0 to 190MPH:

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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
that would be even worse as it would make the 100-200 time 8+ sec
ive read before that actually that is what it's doing. It's 100-200 is around 7.8-8.0s which falls in line with the article saying it's 0-200 is 11.3s
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 10:55 AM
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ive read before that actually that is what it's doing. It's 100-200 is around 7.8-8.0s which falls in line with the article saying it's 0-200 is 11.3s
that would be disappointing if true as that is about same, if not slower, than current w212
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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
that would be disappointing if true as that is about same, if not slower, than current w212
Isnt current W212 4matic E63s doing 100-200km/h in 8.5s bone stock?

Thats what i remember seeing last time i checked.
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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
Isnt current W212 4matic E63s doing 100-200km/h in 8.5s bone stock?

Thats what i remember seeing last time i checked.
hey amg63 I have a question I tried answering for my self. I've been doing extensive research on if and why and where are the resonators located on a 2000 cl500? It's making me go bananas up in here since all I wanna do is remove them to get a different sound to my vehicle but at the same time still be able to pass emissions. I'm getting mixed results. I'll send you a diagram of a few photos. Thanks amg
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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 04:52 PM
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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinnie Noriega
hey amg63 I have a question I tried answering for my self. I've been doing extensive research on if and why and where are the resonators located on a 2000 cl500? It's making me go bananas up in here since all I wanna do is remove them to get a different sound to my vehicle but at the same time still be able to pass emissions. I'm getting mixed results. I'll send you a diagram of a few photos. Thanks amg
hey man, sorry but im not sure the answer to your question.

Maybe gaspam can can chime in here?
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 08:35 AM
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From @Xstatic video, it shows 0-200km/hr in about 11 seconds (based on the the 1:14 mark to 1:25 mark). 100 - 200km/hr in about 8 seconds (1:17 to 1:25 mark). It seems to be okay and have decent performance to me.

Are you guys expecting in the sub 7 sec or even in the 6 sec range (100-200km/hr) ?

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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
Isnt current W212 4matic E63s doing 100-200km/h in 8.5s bone stock?

Thats what i remember seeing last time i checked.
i think 8.5 bone stock would be a 60-130 mph time..... I have seen stock 100-200 kph of 7.8 for W212
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bobblehead
From @Xstatic video, it shows 0-200km/hr in about 11 seconds (based on the the 1:14 mark to 1:25 mark). 100 - 200km/hr in about 8 seconds (1:17 to 1:25 mark). It seems to be okay and have decent performance to me.

Are you guys expecting in the sub 7 sec or even in the 6 sec range (100-200km/hr) ?
if W212 is doing 100-200 kph 7.8 stock then i would expect the newer, more powerful (and supposedly lighter) W213 to be faster than 7.8 since we already have that on stock w212
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
if W212 is doing 100-200 kph 7.8 stock then i would expect the newer, more powerful (and supposedly lighter) W213 to be faster than 7.8 since we already have that on stock w212
looks like fairbird got an 8.5s


skip to 1:48 to see the results
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 02:23 PM
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looks like fairbird got an 8.5s

https://youtu.be/Pjor3aC32_o

skip to 1:48 to see the results
one of the rare times fairbirds car was not on a lift!
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
looks like fairbird got an 8.5s

https://youtu.be/Pjor3aC32_o

skip to 1:48 to see the results
go rewathch the video and look at 37 sec... 100-200 = 7.8 ... the 8.5 at 1:48 was him showing that racestart made it slower
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
go rewathch the video and look at 37 sec... 100-200 = 7.8 ... the 8.5 at 1:48 was him showing that racestart made it slower
watch the way he got 7.8 right before that. It was done starting from 60 not from 0.

From a roll the 100-200 time is always gonna be faster than from a stop. I think when people reference the 100-200 times they are speaking about starting from 0-200.

Also makes sense it's doing 8.5s as it falls in line with its 0-200km of 11.9s found in the test below

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/s...g-7655840.html
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 11:48 PM
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watch the way he got 7.8 right before that. It was done starting from 60 not from 0.

From a roll the 100-200 time is always gonna be faster than from a stop.
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Doesnt Matter... look at the rpm on both runs at 60mph... about 4500 in both so the engine is starting at same exact powerband both runs .... it's apples to apples ... 7.8 was his best 8.5 was probably heatsoaked after few runs ....

either way new w213 shouldn't be running same as it has much more breath up top from bigger twin scroll turbos ...
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Old Apr 30, 2017 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
Doesnt Matter... look at the rpm on both runs at 60mph... about 4500 in both so the engine is starting at same exact powerband both runs .... it's apples to apples ... 7.8 was his best 8.5 was probably heatsoaked after few runs ....

either way new w213 shouldn't be running same as it has much more breath up top from bigger twin scroll turbos ...
well it's 0-200km is still about a half second to full second faster. Basically from 12 to 11 seconds so I think that goes to show how the twin scrolls are helping its top end big time.
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Old May 2, 2017 | 01:02 PM
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Well orders are now open for the E63 Wagons in Europe, with June deliveries...hoping this means a North American release soon

http://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/9874/daimler-opens-the-order-books-for-the-mercedes-amg-e63-wagon
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@Xstatic, did your dealer have any further info. on pricing & ordering guide out now ?

I called a bunch of GTA MB dealers at the end of April and nobody has a clue of the wagon pricing, ordering and arrival. My dealer does not even bother to reply my email. LOL. I guess they are tired of asking MB Canada for update.
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@Xstatic, did your dealer have any further info. on pricing & ordering guide out now ?

I called a bunch of GTA MB dealers at the end of April and nobody has a clue of the wagon pricing, ordering and arrival. My dealer does not even bother to reply my email. LOL. I guess they are tired of asking MB Canada for update.
Nothing from my dealer yet...Daimler is tainkg there sweet time with North America.
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I just went over the configuration today with my SA for the wagon. He was going to call me, as he just got a build date of 12/20 for the wagon. I was hoping to get it before the winter, but looks like I'll have it by early spring. SA said 6 weeks, if the build date holds.
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Originally Posted by 2 '02 S600
I just went over the configuration today with my SA for the wagon. He was going to call me, as he just got a build date of 12/20 for the wagon. I was hoping to get it before the winter, but looks like I'll have it by early spring. SA said 6 weeks, if the build date holds.
S600, where are you located? I haven't heard much from my local dealer in Canada.
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