handheld lowering module
07-14-2021, 11:58 AM
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07-14-2021, 12:25 PM
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Yes, with the lowering module. I lowered 25mm and did a 4 wheel alignment. In under 3K miles my fronts were toast. 8K miles later with the A-arms no wear problems.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...n-lowered.html
F1 is now at https://f1-fabrication.myshopify.com...ontpage?page=2
Although they don't list it, they do have them for the W213. You can contact them on their facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/f1fab/
Part of getting new arms is a competent 4 wheel alignment, so include that in your budget.
Many thanks to ronin amg for pioneering this and sharing on mbworld.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...n-lowered.html
F1 is now at https://f1-fabrication.myshopify.com...ontpage?page=2
Although they don't list it, they do have them for the W213. You can contact them on their facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/f1fab/
Part of getting new arms is a competent 4 wheel alignment, so include that in your budget.
Many thanks to ronin amg for pioneering this and sharing on mbworld.
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07-14-2021, 01:39 PM
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Yes, with the lowering module. I lowered 25mm and did a 4 wheel alignment. In under 3K miles my fronts were toast. 8K miles later with the A-arms no wear problems.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...n-lowered.html
F1 is now at https://f1-fabrication.myshopify.com...ontpage?page=2
Although they don't list it, they do have them for the W213. You can contact them on their facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/f1fab/
Part of getting new arms is a competent 4 wheel alignment, so include that in your budget.
Many thanks to ronin amg for pioneering this and sharing on mbworld.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...n-lowered.html
F1 is now at https://f1-fabrication.myshopify.com...ontpage?page=2
Although they don't list it, they do have them for the W213. You can contact them on their facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/f1fab/
Part of getting new arms is a competent 4 wheel alignment, so include that in your budget.
Many thanks to ronin amg for pioneering this and sharing on mbworld.
- hehe yeah I'll def get an alignment done, don't want to change tires too often 
12-17-2021, 08:38 AM
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It appears like the default settings raises the car at 30 mph with the renntech lowering module, is that true? If that is the case, is it raising back to a stock height with huge wheel gap? For example of in dropped 20mm is it waiting thar 20mm every time I hot 30mph? Does anyone set their lowering modules, renntech or not, to not raise at any speed? Is there any negative to this other possible faster tire wear due to negative camber?
Also, for these cars sit lower in sport plus? Would a car parked in sport plus sit lower than if parked when last driven in comfort?
Just picked up a new car with a renntech lowering module and im trying to figure it all out.
Also, for these cars sit lower in sport plus? Would a car parked in sport plus sit lower than if parked when last driven in comfort?
Just picked up a new car with a renntech lowering module and im trying to figure it all out.
01-04-2022, 03:34 AM
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01-04-2022, 10:35 AM
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I have added offset (+15mm front, +12mm rear) and with a 20mm drop and a full alignment I burned up the fronts in 2K miles.
With the same setup but with F1 Fab Adjustable A arms I've put on 10K miles with no unusual wear.
Added offset has an affect, as does how much you lower. No offset and 15mm drop there may be enough adjustability in the alignment settings to get a proper alignment.
With the same setup but with F1 Fab Adjustable A arms I've put on 10K miles with no unusual wear.
Added offset has an affect, as does how much you lower. No offset and 15mm drop there may be enough adjustability in the alignment settings to get a proper alignment.
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01-05-2022, 02:14 PM
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So if I buy one of these MB Star units and get the software working, that would replace the need for these silly one-off modules right?
example: https://www.vxdas.com/collections/mb...products/sd-c5
example: https://www.vxdas.com/collections/mb...products/sd-c5
01-06-2022, 05:31 AM
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NO - THERE IS NO ADJUSTABILITY AT ALL ! - Background is W213 E43 / 53 / 63 AMG in fact all models the often quoted, reassuring:
"We Will Carry Out A Full Front & Rear '4' Wheel Alignment" in actual fact IS ONLY FRONT AND REAR TOE - "DIRECTIONAL" ADJUSTMENT !
Since the 90's there is no longer FRONT CAMBER AND CASTER TO ADJUST TIRE CONTACT ANGLES / spread load more evenly to cater for costly, premature edge tire wear through wheel squat brought about by load carrying or lowering, fitting wide profile tires, high cambered roads or even basic ongoing adjustability for curb knock damage. Excess edge load can also lead to ruptured side walls and rim damage.
New car industries best kept secret. All to do with cost cutting and the ever increasing speed of auto assembly lines.
We saw the need therefore to "reinstate both Front & Rear adjustment".
CLICK BELOW FOR COMPLETE RANGE OF OPTIONS AVAILABLE:
"We Will Carry Out A Full Front & Rear '4' Wheel Alignment" in actual fact IS ONLY FRONT AND REAR TOE - "DIRECTIONAL" ADJUSTMENT !
Since the 90's there is no longer FRONT CAMBER AND CASTER TO ADJUST TIRE CONTACT ANGLES / spread load more evenly to cater for costly, premature edge tire wear through wheel squat brought about by load carrying or lowering, fitting wide profile tires, high cambered roads or even basic ongoing adjustability for curb knock damage. Excess edge load can also lead to ruptured side walls and rim damage.
New car industries best kept secret. All to do with cost cutting and the ever increasing speed of auto assembly lines.
We saw the need therefore to "reinstate both Front & Rear adjustment".
CLICK BELOW FOR COMPLETE RANGE OF OPTIONS AVAILABLE:
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Last edited by K-Mac; 01-07-2022 at 10:26 PM.
01-06-2022, 09:50 AM
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NO - THERE IS NO ADJUSTABILITY AT ALL ! - Background is W213 E43 / 53 / 63 AMG in fact all models the often quoted, reassuring:
"We Will Carry Out A Full Front & Rear '4' Wheel Alignment" in actual fact IS ONLY FRONT AND REAR TOE - "DIRECTIONAL" ADJUSTMENT !
Since the 90's there is no longer FRONT CAMBER AND CASTER TO ADJUST TIRE CONTACT ANGLES / spread load more evenly to cater for costly, premature edge tire wear through wheel squat brought about by load carrying or lowering, fitting wide profile tires, high cambered roads or even basic ongoing adjustability for curb knock damage. Excess edge load can also lead to ruptured side walls and rim damage.
New car industries best kept secret. All to do with cost cutting and the ever increasing speed of auto assembly lines.
We saw the need therefore to "reinstate both Front & Rear adjustment".
CLICK BELOW FOR COMPLETE RANGE OF OPTIONS AVAILABLE:
"We Will Carry Out A Full Front & Rear '4' Wheel Alignment" in actual fact IS ONLY FRONT AND REAR TOE - "DIRECTIONAL" ADJUSTMENT !
Since the 90's there is no longer FRONT CAMBER AND CASTER TO ADJUST TIRE CONTACT ANGLES / spread load more evenly to cater for costly, premature edge tire wear through wheel squat brought about by load carrying or lowering, fitting wide profile tires, high cambered roads or even basic ongoing adjustability for curb knock damage. Excess edge load can also lead to ruptured side walls and rim damage.
New car industries best kept secret. All to do with cost cutting and the ever increasing speed of auto assembly lines.
We saw the need therefore to "reinstate both Front & Rear adjustment".
CLICK BELOW FOR COMPLETE RANGE OF OPTIONS AVAILABLE:
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01-06-2022, 01:57 PM
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I know you've made this point several times before, but for those of us that are a bit denser, I must ask... your statement stands to reason that if you lower and/or add spacers with everything else staying the same, the old advice to have an alignment done to avoid further uneven wear is simply not valid, is that correct?
Sometimes the dealer might say "well they are set up aggressively from the factory" and other times if they see excess tire wear they might say "oh thats not right at all! it needs an alignment" and then they do an alignment and nothing changes because it cant actually be fixed
01-07-2022, 02:16 AM
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I know you've made this point several times before, but for those of us that are a bit denser, I must ask... your statement stands to reason that if you lower and/or add spacers with everything else staying the same, the old advice to have an alignment done to avoid further uneven wear is simply not valid, is that correct?
Reality is OEM (unlike the 90’s) there is only basic “Toe” adjustment !
It is obviously assumed by most - “surely there must be the ability to also ADJUST TIRE CONTACT ANGLES” Front & Rear (CAMBER adjustment) as well.
As explained - to spread load more evenly to resolve costly, premature edge wear caused by situations encountered in daily commuting..
Example altered height, subsequent wheel squat (Camber change) through load carrying or lowering, high cambered roads or simply having “ongoing adjustment” capability for curb knock damage.
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Last edited by K-Mac; 01-07-2022 at 02:48 AM.
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07-27-2024, 12:06 PM
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