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Old Mar 24, 2018 | 07:48 AM
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Just in M5 vs E63S

Hello,
real side by side comparison.
I have my 2019 on order, with a late june build confirmed.
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Old Mar 24, 2018 | 08:36 AM
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as expected, neck to neck type of race. It's nice to see MB takes this round. More battles up ahead.
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Old Mar 24, 2018 | 09:12 AM
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I watched with baited breath...

Both cars are absolute monsters. There are infinite variables here like fuel, drivers etc. It’s nice to see that they are basically almost identically performance wise in a straight line...

I can say having had a w213 with Iron brakes and now having CCB, the difference is night and day... I’m stoked for summer rubber next week and a brake fluid change to Endless 650 then off to the track...

I would love a tune but I just can’t wrap my mind around $3000 CAD...

Have a great weekend everyone!

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Old Mar 24, 2018 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucabratsi
Hello,
real side by side comparison. https://youtu.be/EfZtr6Sc6q0
I have my 2019 on order, with a late june build confirmed.
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This is going to be fun to compare both of these...Now just need to find a runway near LOS Angeles!
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Old Mar 24, 2018 | 12:23 PM
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This is the best yet, a real world side by side run and they are so close. Im a BMW fanboy too having had 8 M's but Im sure the boys at Mpost will argue this up and then say "wait for the competition package" LOL.

Benz, just selling their best E class up front.
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Old Mar 24, 2018 | 12:47 PM
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Has there been any such comp between the same model year E63-S and CLS 63-S? Imagine its the E given the weight?
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Old Mar 24, 2018 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NL007
Has there been any such comp between the same model year E63-S and CLS 63-S? Imagine its the E given the weight?
But previous versions (212) of the E vs CLS Hasn’t the CLS been a smidge quicker?
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Car & Driver just posted their comparison. Too bad Audi missed the bus...

https://www.caranddriver.com/compari...rySportComparo
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
Car & Driver just posted their comparison. Too bad Audi missed the bus...

https://www.caranddriver.com/compari...rySportComparo
I find it strange that they used 91 octane in AMG versus 93 in all other cars, wonder why they would do that?
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Vic55
This is the best yet, a real world side by side run and they are so close. Im a BMW fanboy too having had 8 M's but Im sure the boys at Mpost will argue this up and then say "wait for the competition package" LOL.

Benz, just selling their best E class up front.
Yeah on Bimmerpost a lot of the guys are going much further than just comparing CP....
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 10:45 AM
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I find it strange that they used 91 octane in AMG versus 93 in all other cars, wonder why they would do that?
Yeah I caught that on an earlier thread which has the C&D post. Whats glaring for me is the weight difference yet the E63S moves better at higher speeds or at least holds its own.
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 11:09 AM
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Yeah I caught that on an earlier thread which has the C&D post. Whats glaring for me is the weight difference yet the E63S moves better at higher speeds or at least holds its own.
I had a w212 (2014) e63s with a tune (eurocharged) and it was rated over 700hp. This car bone stock is a total beast. Up here we have great 94 Octane though...
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I had a w212 (2014) e63s with a tune (eurocharged) and it was rated over 700hp. This car bone stock is a total beast. Up here we have great 94 Octane though...

Yes, the W212's were badass with just a tune... I had a W212 Estate, SL63, and CLS63TT all with the fat M157 engine and tuned em all!

What I would do for 93!!!! I know I can get race gas here in CA but its a pita to go there and back along plus my mileage isnt that great with the car so Id have to go there alot
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NL007
Has there been any such comp between the same model year E63-S and CLS 63-S? Imagine its the E given the weight?
Since most E's have the pano roof, theres no weight advanatge for it. Both are about the same in a straight line
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 02:22 PM
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Over here in New Jersey we have 93 octane fuel!
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Over here in New Jersey we have 93 octane fuel!
I think most of the East Coast has 93, it's out West where they are only able to get 91 as their premium. Probably due to refineries out there only making 91.
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 03:12 PM
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Probably due to refineries out there only making 91.
I believe it is related to our stricter smog laws. Sux!!! We have to pay more for crappier gas!
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 05:25 PM
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California pump gas is so bad. All of my BMWs had issues with knock on 91. The only fix was to mix in some race gas for a ~94 octane blend. Not cheap or practical if you daily your car more than a few miles.
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And to top if off, we get to pay extra for the privilege of the crappy gas. There's a move afoot to repeal the gas tax increase, but Gov. Brown has vowed to fight that even though there were enough signatures gathered to get it put on the ballot.

I think San Diego has about the highest prices in the country. One reason I heard for this was a claim of higher distribution costs, but no idea whether that's true or not. Seems like it's always a fair bit lower priced whenever I head up north of Camp Pendleton.
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Either San Diego or the Bay Area have that dubious honor. We are typically $1 more per gallon than the rest of the nation. Then we have our winter oxygenated gas, and then the summer blend, and then when there is a refinery problem, the prices go up because no other refineries produce our wonderful gas. Although, our gas is still less expensive than parts of Europe!!
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Originally Posted by CALBenzo
Either San Diego or the Bay Area have that dubious honor. We are typically $1 more per gallon than the rest of the nation. Then we have our winter oxygenated gas, and then the summer blend, and then when there is a refinery problem, the prices go up because no other refineries produce our wonderful gas. Although, our gas is still less expensive than parts of Europe!!
welcome to Canada... there is no collusion up here when it comes to gas prices... it’s a long holiday weekend coming up so the prices should be going up in a day or 2... currently we pay $1.45 CAD per litre up here which is roughly about $7.25 USD per gallon of 93 Octane.
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$7.25 USD per gallon of 93 Octane.
That will certainly keep us from bit*hing!!
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How did you get $7.25 US per gallon ? I calculated to be around $4.50 US per gallon. (Based in Toronto prices)
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Here is my math.. and it’s wrong... 😂

Originally Posted by bobblehead
How did you get $7.25 US per gallon ? I calculated to be around $4.50 US per gallon. (Based in Toronto prices)
1 US Gallon is 3.8 litres. This morning I paid $1.45 per litre at Petro Canada for Ultra 94. That works out to $5.50 CAD. I went backwards with the exchange... it is indeed $4.50 or thereabouts.

Thought is was was too high... thanks for correcting me.
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