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Old May 8, 2018 | 06:13 PM
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Did anyone take the plunge and buy the AMR tune? I'd love to hear the results....
there are no real world results... hopefully w213 won’t remain only Dyno queen as w212 lol. I doubt there are companies that can make bypass tune to all 3 blocks ( ecu tpu differential) doesn’t matter how much torque you make, if only ecu is remapped car won’t let u go over stock limit of torque.
My friend stock f90 m5 goes 1/4 in 10.8 lol
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Real world results? Dyno plot, track video, car weight, track conditions, etc... how do you get more real world than that? lol

Video is posted on the AMR Performance instagram (@amrperformance). A full video is going to be posted on the AMR Performance youtube channel as well.
100% agree here- there is ample "real world" evidence but I have yet to see a "real" F90 pull a 10.8- I dont even see a magazine pulling that time. He is quoting BMW's new Competition model numbers from zero to 124 mph and that model is not even built yet. I love how people post incorrectly.
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Old May 8, 2018 | 07:16 PM
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100% agree here- there is ample "real world" evidence but I have yet to see a "real" F90 pull a 10.8- I dont even see a magazine pulling that time. He is quoting BMW's new Competition model numbers from zero to 124 mph and that model is not even built yet. I love how people post incorrectly.
I would love to see your reaction when I send you a video of 402m f90 run, it will show you clearly 10.8 run( roll-out off) with FULL tank... send me your whatsapp number ..
both 0-100 with 2.8 and 100-200 6.7 are there
if it’s not posted anywhere it doesn’t mean that it’s not exists
one of magazines showed how E63 overtook m5 on dragstrip... you belive in it? Another magazine compared 0-250 times of both cars, and again E63 was faster. Why in real world it’s vice versa ? You need a video proof? I got a lot of it recorded on my phone and I’m happy to share with you.
e63 vs normal m5 and vs first edition m5.
No chance for w213.

regarding “real results”
any customers that did same time 1/4m? With 98/100ron? I don’t think so... all that US companies that claim their cars go stupidly fast, why we don’t see customers performing same result ? Not even closer? answer is marketing...

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Old May 8, 2018 | 07:48 PM
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I would love to see your reaction when I send you a video of 402m f90 run, it will show you clearly 10.8 run( roll-out off) with FULL tank... send me your whatsapp number ..
both 0-100 with 2.8 and 100-200 6.7 are there
if it’s not posted anywhere it doesn’t mean that it’s not exists
one of magazines showed how E63 overtook m5 on dragstrip... you belive in it? Another magazine compared 0-250 times of both cars, and again E63 was faster. Why in real world it’s vice versa ? You need a video proof? I got a lot of it recorded on my phone and I’m happy to share with you.
e63 vs normal m5 and vs first edition m5.
No chance for w213.

regarding “real results”
any customers that did same time 1/4m? With 98/100ron? I don’t think so... all that US companies that claim their cars go stupidly fast, why we don’t see customers performing same result ? Not even closer? answer is marketing...
Let's all see the video.
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Old May 8, 2018 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 2020
Let's all see the video.
no, I want that guy that see video of f90 that’s he calls “competition model” that’s not built yet

Can’t attach heavy videos here, and I’m not willing to upload them anywhere .
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Come on you talk a big game in a lot of threads post the video... its ironic that you spout out data that is exactly as BMW's current press release for a car that is not built. I am sure you have videos and so do others. I could careless if the F90 is faster- Ill get that car soon enough anyways when Im bored here LOL.

Ill trust a magazine over your posts all day until you provide some empirical data and not some unvetted street run down hill on a non sanctioned track. At least the car in this thread ran at a legit track. And in reality the magazines are the ones with the E losing out so your statement is incorrect. (reversed) and then there is the CarWow head to head video that shows the M5 losing.

More real world than your supposition---

And lets keep this thread on track with the sponsor or you can post elsewhere.

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Old May 8, 2018 | 08:09 PM
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Let's all see the video.
You wont see it and if you do it will be all dark and unclear LOL with a 3 horn pull hahahaha

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Old May 8, 2018 | 10:16 PM
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Come on you talk a big game in a lot of threads post the video... its ironic that you spout out data that is exactly as BMW's current press release for a car that is not built. I am sure you have videos and so do others. I could careless if the F90 is faster- Ill get that car soon enough anyways when Im bored here LOL.

Ill trust a magazine over your posts all day until you provide some empirical data and not some unvetted street run down hill on a non sanctioned track. At least the car in this thread ran at a legit track. And in reality the magazines are the ones with the E losing out so your statement is incorrect. (reversed) and then there is the CarWow head to head video that shows the M5 losing.

More real world than your supposition---

And lets keep this thread on track with the sponsor or you can post elsewhere.
Well, the M5 Competition model is out, likely for September delivery Have you driven the M5 yet? No dealer here has one to test...
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Well, the M5 Competition model is out, likely for September delivery Have you driven the M5 yet? No dealer here has one to test...

Hey Wolf thats what i was saying, its not really out yet (not on any streets in the world) as the builds are starting in July so there is nothing to compare that unique situation to. As for the regular one, I have not and therefore will not speak to it or buy it because the Comp Model will be here soon and if Im to obtain one thats the best version.
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Originally Posted by DIVINE AMG
Real world results? Dyno plot, track video, car weight, track conditions, etc... how do you get more real world than that? lol

Video is posted on the AMR Performance instagram (@amrperformance). A full video is going to be posted on the AMR Performance youtube channel as well.
I can see where dav is coming from with his comments. We went through this exact scenario with the W212. Several tuners posted “proof” of mid 10 second cars with claims of “tune only” or “tune/dp only” that has to this day yet to be duplicated. So I take these one-off cars/results with quite a bit of skepticism as should anyone else until customers can actually and quantifiably verify the claims.
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Old May 9, 2018 | 08:31 AM
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Old May 9, 2018 | 12:14 PM
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That thing launches hard!!!! Damn son

i wonder how often it can do that without snapping an axle or driveshaft

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Old May 9, 2018 | 01:53 PM
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That thing launches hard!!!! Damn son

i wonder how often it can do that without snapping an axle or driveshaft
I don't have the AMR tune but I launch my car perhaps 2 or 3 times a day, sometimes more.
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Old May 9, 2018 | 01:54 PM
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Old May 9, 2018 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by limeypride
Has anyone got the AMR tune yet?
Not yet. I am purchasing it this week and then shipping my ECU in a couple weeks when I have time. I can't wait!

I have been harassing Matt at AMR for a few days now and he has been more than helpful with all my ignorant questions lol. I am excited to unleash the beast!
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Old May 9, 2018 | 02:57 PM
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Not yet. I am purchasing it this week and then shipping my ECU in a couple weeks when I have time. I can't wait!

I have been harassing Matt at AMR for a few days now and he has been more than helpful with all my ignorant questions lol. I am excited to unleash the beast!
Excellent. Will you be able to do a before and after dyno on the same dyno?

If you don't already have one, I'd recommend you get a Dragy since it'll give you the data you need to assess the performance gains from the tune and compete across the world against fellow E63S owners and other vehicles--best performance measuring device out there in my opinion.
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Old May 9, 2018 | 06:59 PM
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Hey Wolf thats what i was saying, its not really out yet (not on any streets in the world) as the builds are starting in July so there is nothing to compare that unique situation to. As for the regular one, I have not and therefore will not speak to it or buy it because the Comp Model will be here soon and if Im to obtain one thats the best version.
Well, that's the car to buy, if any. I feel bad though; this has to hurt for early M5 buyers to have the better model coming out barely 2 months into deliveries.
Wouldn't mind having some seat time in the car to have an opinion but still can't get excited about the car. The AMG GT 4 door (stupid name) will likely be the one to beat the comp. model with official 630hp, no pano for less weight and rear wheel steering...
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Well, that's the car to buy, if any. I feel bad though; this has to hurt for early M5 buyers to have the better model coming out barely 2 months into deliveries.
Wouldn't mind having some seat time in the car to have an opinion but still can't get excited about the car. The AMG GT 4 door (stupid name) will likely be the one to beat the comp. model with official 630hp, no pano for less weight and rear wheel steering...
And a much different price point right? (AMG GT vs the F90 M5 Comp).

I like what I saw in the M5 Comp video- the rear trunk spoiler, black pipes, sport exhaust, side skirt enhancements, black gills, black grill, bump in hp, suspension tweaks, etc.

Not a bad deal for 7k when the ZCP for the F10 M5 was even more.

I need to drive one too but I get lazy and just drive what I got
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And a much different price point right? (AMG GT vs the F90 M5 Comp).

I like what I saw in the M5 Comp video- the rear trunk spoiler, black pipes, sport exhaust, side skirt enhancements, black gills, black grill, bump in hp, suspension tweaks, etc.

Not a bad deal for 7k when the ZCP for the F10 M5 was even more.

I need to drive one too but I get lazy and just drive what I got
The M5 is a killer deal in any package, given the MF and residual (to me that car makes sense if leased). You definitely get a lot of car for the money. Add a proper drop and some spacers

That said, I don't see the AMG GT4 door to be very expensive. Price is unknown at this point but said to be positioned to be $8-10k more that the E63s base price. There will be a pricey launch edition of course...
The car will be build along side with the CLS and E-Class, so apart form the name there is no similarity to the actual AMG GT coupe.
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The M5 is a killer deal in any package, given the MF and residual (to me that car makes sense if leased). You definitely get a lot of car for the money. Add a proper drop and some spacers

That said, I don't see the AMG GT4 door to be very expensive. Price is unknown at this point but said to be positioned to be $8-10k more that the E63s base price. There will be a pricey launch edition of course...
The car will be build along side with the CLS and E-Class, so apart form the name there is no similarity to the actual AMG GT coupe.
It's true of BMW leases in general. My 2016 M6 GC had a $150K MSRP and a monthly lease of just over $1300 including 10% usage tax and with less than 5 figures down.

Once the F90 CP drops at a nearby dealer, I'll be in for a test drive. From what I'm told, the tuning potential is already there since most of the existing tunes are a carry-over--I've not yet confirmed that but it seems reasonable. If I love it, well won't that be a conundrum...

That said, I don't care what I'm driving or how long I've had it... when the M8 GC is launched, that's mine!
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It's true of BMW leases in general. My 2016 M6 GC had a $150K MSRP and a monthly lease of just over $1300 including 10% usage tax and with less than 5 figures down.

Once the F90 CP drops at a nearby dealer, I'll be in for a test drive. From what I'm told, the tuning potential is already there since most of the existing tunes are a carry-over--I've not yet confirmed that but it seems reasonable. If I love it, well won't that be a conundrum...

That said, I don't care what I'm driving or how long I've had it... when the M8 GC is launched, that's mine!
M8 is what I am waiting for. Just hope the interior won't be too conservative, like the M5. Hope they go bold...
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M8 is what I am waiting for. Just hope the interior won't be too conservative, like the M5. Hope they go bold...
Im due back with a BMW after holding 3 Benzes still. I just dont know if I want 2 sedans and I wont dump the ED1 so its tough. I did have the RS7 and the E63S for a short period and I just dont need them both. But that M5 is so tempting... I almost feel like a kid again when I had a W210 E55 and was scoping the venerable E39 M5 (which I got).

Maybe thats why I wont test the "base" model LOL.
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M8 is what I am waiting for. Just hope the interior won't be too conservative, like the M5. Hope they go bold...
The M6 interior was leaps and bounds ahead of the M5--driver focused in all the right ways.




The concept M8 interior they showed was a bit too "concept'y" I suspect to make it to production so we can only hope they don't tone it down too much: M8 concept interior

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The M6 interior was leaps and bounds ahead of the M5--driver focused in all the right ways.




The concept M8 interior they showed was a bit too "concept'y" I suspect to make it to production so we can only hope they don't tone it down too much: M8 concept interior
I liked my F13 interior over my F10's but I didnt feel it was that much better- same gauges, same tech, same seats... just some angle change on the screen. I think the cabin in general made the feel better and created a better driver's environment. But then I never really used the back seats in either car and I had the coupe vs the GC.
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I liked my F13 interior over my F10's but I didnt feel it was that much better- same gauges, same tech, same seats... just some angle change on the screen. I think the cabin in general made the feel better and created a better driver's environment. But then I never really used the back seats in either car and I had the coupe vs the GC.
To each their own--I genuinely loved that interior. The F13 needed its dimensions changed, the F06 seemed to work better aesthetically.

The F06 seats weren't the same as any of my 5 x F10s by the way but most everything else you mention was. The gauges didn't need fixing, though, to my eye--functional blunt instruments... but definitely showing their age by today's standards. The leather was also a little more pervasive than any available option in the M5.

The E63 is probably the best interior across my car history but it lacks the driver-oriented focus... and could do with a little more compute horsepower behind it but I love it, nonetheless.
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