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2018 MB E63S AMG w/ AMR Performance ECU Upgrade goes 10.5 at 132mph (tune only)
MBWorld Members / Enthusiast,
We had a very exciting weekend and are proud to announce, that after months of hard work, numerous hours on the dynamometer and countless hours of research & development on this platform, our 2018 Mercedes-Benz E63S AMG (W213) goes 10.5 at 132mph with ONLY an AMR Performance Stage 1 ECU Software Upgrade (tune).
Track: Lebanon Valley Dragway
Elevation: Over 600ft above sea level
Octane: 93 (pumpgas)
Vehicle Weight: 4745-4750 (with driver)
Timeslip:
Video:
(being uploaded)
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Last edited by AMR Performance; Apr 23, 2018 at 10:48 AM.
We had a very exciting weekend and are proud to announce, that after months of hard work, numerous hours on the dynamometer and countless hours of research & development on this platform, our 2018 Mercedes-Benz E63S AMG (W213) goes 10.5 at 132mph with ONLY an AMR Performance Stage 1 ECU Software Upgrade (tune).
I'm also interested to see your dyno numbers but the page you linked to won't show the larger picture in at least 2 browsers I've tried.
Originally Posted by AMR Performance
MBWorld Members / Enthusiast,
We had a very exciting weekend and are proud to announce, that after months of hard work, numerous hours on the dynamometer and countless hours of research & development on this platform, our 2018 Mercedes-Benz E63S AMG (W213) goes 10.5 at 132mph with ONLY an AMR Performance Stage 1 ECU Software Upgrade (tune).
Thanks, Vic--that worked (hint to AMR guys--that's not obvious... or I'm an idiot ).
Am I reading this right, you're claiming that the car put down 850 ft Ibs of torque and 705 hp (or thereabouts) to the wheels on pump gas with an ECU-only tune?
Thanks, Vic--that worked (hint to AMR guys--that's not obvious... or I'm an idiot ).
Am I reading this right, you're claiming that the car put down 850 ft Ibs of torque and 705 hp (or thereabouts) to the wheels on pump gas with an ECU-only tune?
thats a lot of power both tq and hp to the wheels for sure.....
Damn it!!!!! I was gonna go for an M5 this time around because I’ve never owned a Bimmer, but now the c63s is back in the picture because of you!! Damn it!!!
thats a lot of power both tq and hp to the wheels for sure.....
It is indeed. The 10.5 does seem reasonable to me based on my own experience with the EuroCharged tune but it's going to take a nice sticky track and a peach of a launch to get it. The dyno numbers, though (assuming they're quoting wheel numbers), don't seem achievable to me on pump (or without slippage).
// bringing my question back to the top: are the dyno numbers AMR posted wheel-numbers or crank?
Last edited by limeypride; Apr 23, 2018 at 10:24 PM.
thats a lot of power both tq and hp to the wheels for sure.....
The car is an animal!
Originally Posted by Stealth7
Strong numbers.
How much power to the wheels do you lose if you tune for and use 91 octane? (California and I do not want to mix if I ever tune).
Do you think this will cause any problems for the car (drive train or warranty)?
Thanks!
Sent you a DM
Originally Posted by limeypride
It is indeed. The 10.5 does seem reasonable to me based on my own experience with the EuroCharged tune but it's going to take a nice sticky track and a peach of a launch to get it. The dyno numbers, though (assuming they're quoting wheel numbers), don't seem achievable to me on pump (or without slippage).
// bringing my question back to the top: are the dyno numbers AMR posted wheel-numbers or crank?
What separates us from other brands, we purchase our own R&D vehicles, we do not use clients cars. This gives us the ability to work closely on the vehicle and work out every bug as well as every detail. We picked this vehicle up mid Dec. 2017 and went right to R&D. Achieving the numbers advertised from tuning on the web for this platform was easy to achieve, but we knew the vehicle had more in it. So we continued to dive into the ECU. Once we saw the results (posted above), we did not rush to advertise them as we need to ensure the vehicle's drivability and reliability stay in tact. We put a little over 3k miles on the vehicle in daily driving and some spirited trips to "Mexico". We were very pleased. At that point, we knew it was time to take the vehicle to the track and back up our results. The vehicle performed phenomenally. We are proud of its achievements and look forward to see what the future holds with this platform.
Number's you see on the power plot, are at the wheels with the vehicle in "Dyno Mode". Not sure how these number's are "not achievable" as they were backed up with a timeslip. You must remember, the vehicle weight is a huge factory and so is traction.
We will be posting up our video which includes a walk around of the vehicle as well as live track conditions.
Awesome guys! This is my first Mercedes (same color I might add) and was curious what is possible to do to these things haha. I can't believe you have this monstrosity of a vehicle going that fast..................... lol sold!
I will be calling you guys asap to speed up this yacht
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Number's you see on the power plot, are at the wheels with the vehicle in "Dyno Mode". Not sure how these number's are "not achievable" as they were backed up with a timeslip. You must remember, the vehicle weight is a huge factory and so is traction. - Robert
I was referring to the torque/HP numbers, not your ET--10.5s seems achievable to me with my own car under track conditions. Time will tell I guess.
I don't recognize the dyno plot (the graph itself), may I ask what type of dyno you use?
Back 10 years ago or more when I was looking at tunes for my 6.0 l diesel F-250 and comparing dyno runs, and so on, one of the issues folks discussed was trying to use inertial dynos to test big torque turbo motors.
Essentially, as I recall it, some of the inertial dynos didn't have enough inertia to present sufficient resistance to allow the trucks to build the full boost.
So some tuners were using eddy current dynos that allow the tuner to operate the engine at some RPM and increase load till the motor has built the max boost.
I wonder if that accounts for some of the difference on some of these plots?
850 WTQ, Wow. Based on the graph that's an increase of 250 with just a tune. Somehow that is some 100+ ftlbs more than other tuners are showing with their tunes / dyno sheets.
I'm curious how all of the hardware will live at this level. Can the turbos / engine internals / fuel system / trans / transfer case / axles all handle that much twist reliably? I wonder because the other tuners all seem to be pretty close to each other in terms of power / torque increases, and somehow you guys found another 100+ over them. Maybe the others are on 91 and yours is on 93oct?
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