RIP 2018 E63
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2018 E63 AMGs
RIP 2018 E63
Had an early build '18 that had some electrical issues and then the CEL for misfires in 4 cylinders. After 34 days (and counting) in the shop MB is going to repurchase the vehicle. This issue is endemic to the twin turbo V8s that are in the AMG C, E, and S classes.
A word of advice to anyone who has a CEL from misfires - start looking for another car.
A word of advice to anyone who has a CEL from misfires - start looking for another car.
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2018 E63 AMGs
Took a look at the new M5s. not a fan of the dash and interior layout. The dealer was also adamant on the $20K market "adjustment" add to the MSRP which i will not pay. Probably going to be a Porsche or Range Rover. The MB USA contact believed that all the 2019s E63s are going to be held at port for a significant amount of time while they are updated/worked on before they will be available for sale.
Probably my first and last MB vehicle purchase....
Probably my first and last MB vehicle purchase....
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2018 E63S Wagon
Took a look at the new M5s. not a fan of the dash and interior layout. The dealer was also adamant on the $20K market "adjustment" add to the MSRP which i will not pay. Probably going to be a Porsche or Range Rover. The MB USA contact believed that all the 2019s E63s are going to be held at port for a significant amount of time while they are updated/worked on before they will be available for sale.
Probably my first and last MB vehicle purchase....
Probably my first and last MB vehicle purchase....
I would HIGHLY recommend a Range Rover SVR if you're wanting something with the bark and surge of power of the E63 with the practicality of a Range. I desperately missed mine until my E Wagon came in May.
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Took a look at the new M5s. not a fan of the dash and interior layout. The dealer was also adamant on the $20K market "adjustment" add to the MSRP which i will not pay. Probably going to be a Porsche or Range Rover. The MB USA contact believed that all the 2019s E63s are going to be held at port for a significant amount of time while they are updated/worked on before they will be available for sale.
Probably my first and last MB vehicle purchase....
Probably my first and last MB vehicle purchase....
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2018 E63 AMGs
I just cannot get past the screen tacked onto the top of the dashboard, i think it looks cheap and lazy. I am going to test drive the SVR and look at the Panamera Wagon 4s. Either way, having such a poor experience with the AMG has soured me on MB for the time being.
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2018 E63S
Around November last year there was memo from corporate telling dealers to not be surprised if their cars took 6+ weeks longer than usual due to "extended QC checks". They were told that these "may" extend all the way into May of this year...I'm guessing they might extend those even further. I know there was 60 days between when my car was assigned a VIN/began production and when it finally rolled out of the factory and onto a boat, a process that should have taken a week. They're doing the checks at the factory after they had so many problems with the first year of production.
I would HIGHLY recommend a Range Rover SVR if you're wanting something with the bark and surge of power of the E63 with the practicality of a Range. I desperately missed mine until my E Wagon came in May.
I would HIGHLY recommend a Range Rover SVR if you're wanting something with the bark and surge of power of the E63 with the practicality of a Range. I desperately missed mine until my E Wagon came in May.
My car was in hold-up in Germany from november to february.
I guess the hold-up might have lasted longer for some vehicles.
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I am in the same "pickle"
The delay in any possible replacement sucks. I drove the 4s and it was way to boring. I was also thinking the Range Rover SVR, but I currently have a F-pace R sport so that would have to go and I would have to find something new for the wife. Was also looking at the Lister LFT-666 and Lister F-Pace. Any bigger guys (6'3 + ) spend a good amount of time in the f-type?
The delay in any possible replacement sucks. I drove the 4s and it was way to boring. I was also thinking the Range Rover SVR, but I currently have a F-pace R sport so that would have to go and I would have to find something new for the wife. Was also looking at the Lister LFT-666 and Lister F-Pace. Any bigger guys (6'3 + ) spend a good amount of time in the f-type?
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2018 E63S
I am in the same "pickle"
The delay in any possible replacement sucks. I drove the 4s and it was way to boring. I was also thinking the Range Rover SVR, but I currently have a F-pace R sport so that would have to go and I would have to find something new for the wife. Was also looking at the Lister LFT-666 and Lister F-Pace. Any bigger guys (6'3 + ) spend a good amount of time in the f-type?
The delay in any possible replacement sucks. I drove the 4s and it was way to boring. I was also thinking the Range Rover SVR, but I currently have a F-pace R sport so that would have to go and I would have to find something new for the wife. Was also looking at the Lister LFT-666 and Lister F-Pace. Any bigger guys (6'3 + ) spend a good amount of time in the f-type?
If you look around on here you'll find the thread back from around October last year where I went through the motions.
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Around November last year there was memo from corporate telling dealers to not be surprised if their cars took 6+ weeks longer than usual due to "extended QC checks". They were told that these "may" extend all the way into May of this year...I'm guessing they might extend those even further. I know there was 60 days between when my car was assigned a VIN/began production and when it finally rolled out of the factory and onto a boat, a process that should have taken a week. They're doing the checks at the factory after they had so many problems with the first year of production.
I would HIGHLY recommend a Range Rover SVR if you're wanting something with the bark and surge of power of the E63 with the practicality of a Range. I desperately missed mine until my E Wagon came in May.
I would HIGHLY recommend a Range Rover SVR if you're wanting something with the bark and surge of power of the E63 with the practicality of a Range. I desperately missed mine until my E Wagon came in May.
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One of the guys at work has an F-type R and we frequently park next to each other. I have to agree that the car sounds great. Even more snarl than the E63S in Sport+ mode with more over runs on deceleration.
We haven't yet managed to do any pulls so haven't yet established which car is quicker from the go. But I have to concede he wins the exhaust note.
He's about 6'1" medium build and making it work. He's been very happy with the car so far.
We haven't yet managed to do any pulls so haven't yet established which car is quicker from the go. But I have to concede he wins the exhaust note.
He's about 6'1" medium build and making it work. He's been very happy with the car so far.
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2018 E63S Wagon
One of the guys at work has an F-type R and we frequently park next to each other. I have to agree that the car sounds great. Even more snarl than the E63S in Sport+ mode with more over runs on deceleration.
We haven't yet managed to do any pulls so haven't yet established which car is quicker from the go. But I have to concede he wins the exhaust note.
He's about 6'1" medium build and making it work. He's been very happy with the car so far.
We haven't yet managed to do any pulls so haven't yet established which car is quicker from the go. But I have to concede he wins the exhaust note.
He's about 6'1" medium build and making it work. He's been very happy with the car so far.
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Had an early build '18 that had some electrical issues and then the CEL for misfires in 4 cylinders. After 34 days (and counting) in the shop MB is going to repurchase the vehicle. This issue is endemic to the twin turbo V8s that are in the AMG C, E, and S classes.
A word of advice to anyone who has a CEL from misfires - start looking for another car.
A word of advice to anyone who has a CEL from misfires - start looking for another car.
If I were you I would look into a Lexus LC 500 if you don’t mind just a two seater. Good luck!
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I think it was tested doing 4.0sec 0-60. But you don't buy it because it's slightly faster than the regular RRS, you buy it for the personality which is shockingly different to a V8SC RRS. It's amazing how much different they made it feel compared to the regular model without sacrificing any of the comfort or capability.
The SVR I had was hilarious, if wanted to just have it crackle and pop on command you just feathered the gas pedal while coasting, engine braking, going downhill, etc. One of the most giggle inducing things you can do is set the cruise on a downhill stretch of road, and downshift to where the cruise is alternating between engine braking and giving it just a little gas to maintain the cruise speed...which would result in constant popping like a popcorn machine. It was stupid fun. I miss that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8vtzZ7ylBY
The SVR I had was hilarious, if wanted to just have it crackle and pop on command you just feathered the gas pedal while coasting, engine braking, going downhill, etc. One of the most giggle inducing things you can do is set the cruise on a downhill stretch of road, and downshift to where the cruise is alternating between engine braking and giving it just a little gas to maintain the cruise speed...which would result in constant popping like a popcorn machine. It was stupid fun. I miss that car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8vtzZ7ylBY
The link you included showed 4.7 to 100kph. Sorry...that’s pretty average today. If sound is what you want, there are lots of aftermarket solutions (akroprovik) that get real loud. SVR is neat but way overrated. Personally I like a balance. My race car with open headers scares/annoys fellow competitors. For an e63 or similar, I just want a fun drive back and forth to work or the ski hill or the grocery store. Gas mileage be damned...
Then there are those here that want their e63 in the 10s in the 1/4.
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Yeah, that's weird. Fixed it.
i get the whole 10 second crowd, but if what originally drew the OP to the E63 was the practically combined with the visceral nature of the engine, acceleration, etc. then there are very few alternatives. He mentioned Porsche and Range Rovers as alternatives so I gave my first-hand opinion about the Range Rover closest to an E63. Does a SVR do 0-60 in the low 3s or quarters in the 10s? No. But if he wants a Range that puts a dumb smile on your face the way a E63 can, then the SVR is a good choice. A vehicle that can rock climb, wade through 33 inches of water, and surge two and a half tons of car to 60 in ~4.3 seconds is still a blast.
i get the whole 10 second crowd, but if what originally drew the OP to the E63 was the practically combined with the visceral nature of the engine, acceleration, etc. then there are very few alternatives. He mentioned Porsche and Range Rovers as alternatives so I gave my first-hand opinion about the Range Rover closest to an E63. Does a SVR do 0-60 in the low 3s or quarters in the 10s? No. But if he wants a Range that puts a dumb smile on your face the way a E63 can, then the SVR is a good choice. A vehicle that can rock climb, wade through 33 inches of water, and surge two and a half tons of car to 60 in ~4.3 seconds is still a blast.
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Yeah, that's weird. Fixed it.
i get the whole 10 second crowd, but if what originally drew the OP to the E63 was the practically combined with the visceral nature of the engine, acceleration, etc. then there are very few alternatives. He mentioned Porsche and Range Rovers as alternatives so I gave my first-hand opinion about the Range Rover closest to an E63. Does a SVR do 0-60 in the low 3s or quarters in the 10s? No. But if he wants a Range that puts a dumb smile on your face the way a E63 can, then the SVR is a good choice. A vehicle that can rock climb, wade through 33 inches of water, and surge two and a half tons of car to 60 in ~4.3 seconds is still a blast.
i get the whole 10 second crowd, but if what originally drew the OP to the E63 was the practically combined with the visceral nature of the engine, acceleration, etc. then there are very few alternatives. He mentioned Porsche and Range Rovers as alternatives so I gave my first-hand opinion about the Range Rover closest to an E63. Does a SVR do 0-60 in the low 3s or quarters in the 10s? No. But if he wants a Range that puts a dumb smile on your face the way a E63 can, then the SVR is a good choice. A vehicle that can rock climb, wade through 33 inches of water, and surge two and a half tons of car to 60 in ~4.3 seconds is still a blast.
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Took a look at the new M5s. not a fan of the dash and interior layout. The dealer was also adamant on the $20K market "adjustment" add to the MSRP which i will not pay. Probably going to be a Porsche or Range Rover. The MB USA contact believed that all the 2019s E63s are going to be held at port for a significant amount of time while they are updated/worked on before they will be available for sale.
Probably my first and last MB vehicle purchase....
Probably my first and last MB vehicle purchase....
Nicely discounted plus the high residuals which dropped 10% for the MY19, at least for right now... It appears that lease deals are $1300-$1500 including tax (Bimmerpost)
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Had an early build '18 that had some electrical issues and then the CEL for misfires in 4 cylinders. After 34 days (and counting) in the shop MB is going to repurchase the vehicle. This issue is endemic to the twin turbo V8s that are in the AMG C, E, and S classes.
A word of advice to anyone who has a CEL from misfires - start looking for another car.
A word of advice to anyone who has a CEL from misfires - start looking for another car.
It happens, with any brand, my brother had the worst ever experience with his Lexus 430.
You were unlucky that your first MB was with problems but do not disqualify the entire brand based on just one experience, it's like you decide to never date another Blonde girl because the one you went on a date with, was a psycho and you assume they all are.
Well, maybe a wrong example as all Blondes are, to different degrees......
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I had 21 AMGs in total over the last 20 years, had serious problems with 2 cars, the rest were bulletproof.
It happens, with any brand, my brother had the worst ever experience with his Lexus 430.
You were unlucky that your first MB was with problems but do not disqualify the entire brand based on just one experience, it's like you decide to never date another Blonde girl because the one you went on a date with, was a psycho and you assume they all are.
Well, maybe a wrong example as all Blondes are, to different degrees......
It happens, with any brand, my brother had the worst ever experience with his Lexus 430.
You were unlucky that your first MB was with problems but do not disqualify the entire brand based on just one experience, it's like you decide to never date another Blonde girl because the one you went on a date with, was a psycho and you assume they all are.
Well, maybe a wrong example as all Blondes are, to different degrees......
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With BMWs, I had 2, one with problems so it would be 50%, a 100% in my brother's case (he says he would never, ever buy another Lexus).
My uncle owned over 15 Chevys, never any major problem with any of them, does it mean Chevrolet makes the best, most reliable cars?
