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Old 11-07-2018, 09:45 PM
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Yeah could be an engine issue, or it could simply be the S63 was scheduled to release in November, and it did, while the E63 is scheduled to release in December, and thus will be released in a few weeks, as per OP.
Then why the unofficial story from MB? I suppose they could just be embarrassed. Or maybe this is one giant circular game of telephone where the SAs are completely in the dark, but then also reading this thread and getting ideas for explanations. No question, however, that the E63 does not have a 2019 CARB certification, and the other cars that have been released do have one. Who knows. We all just want our cars.
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My gut is telling me ďrun for the hillsĒ and walk next door. Get and M5 and be done with it
Same dealer...call him up and get my deposit transferred.
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Originally Posted by VPC_E63S View Post
Then why the unofficial story from MB? I suppose they could just be embarrassed. Or maybe this is one giant circular game of telephone where the SAs are completely in the dark, but then also reading this thread and getting ideas for explanations. No question, however, that the E63 does not have a 2019 CARB certification, and the other cars that have been released do have one. Who knows. We all just want our cars.
Like kcjonz said earlier - someone needs to be executed...I mean fired.
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Same dealer...call him up and get my deposit transferred.
Iím a man of my word and ordered a custom car. But GD 9 months when do you draw the line?
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Like kcjonz said earlier - someone needs to be executed...I mean fired.
Itís more than one person....we just donít know if itís Marketing or Engineering.
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Itís more than one person....we just donít know if itís Marketing or Engineering.
Iím hoping itís marketing.
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Talked to my dealer in Montreal, he said they are waiting for Emissions certification from the Canadian Govt in Halifax, and he said they arent expecting the cars to be freed before end of november/beginning of december, FML.
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:51 PM
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Talked to my dealer in Montreal, he said they are waiting for Emissions certification from the Canadian Govt in Halifax, and he said they arent expecting the cars to be freed before end of november/beginning of december, FML.
Hey,

Thanks for the update. Are you referring to the GLE63 or E63?
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He said every 63 AMG model
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He said every 63 AMG model

Thank you. Feel your guys pain. Not a 63, but been waiting for a 43 for a while as well...
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Sounds to me like MB just wants to get rid of the 2018 inventory. Still some kicking around in Toronto.
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Originally Posted by s26singh View Post


The E63 M177 engine is also found in the S63 - same exact engine with same HP rating (more torque in the S63), same twin scroll turbos (unlike the C63 and GLC63), same exhaust manifolds (the cars sound identical from the outside), and the same cylinder deactivation system. Apparently, the MY19 S63 was released earlier this month, so I highly doubt engine problems are the culprit here IMO.
Just checked the engine specs on the 2019 S63. City fuel economy is 17, Highway fuel economy is 26. The 2018 E63S specs are 15/22. This is on a lighter car and same engine? Something is surely different.
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Just checked the engine specs on the 2019 S63. City fuel economy is 17, Highway fuel economy is 26. The 2018 E63S specs are 15/22. This is on a lighter car and same engine? Something is surely different.
Likely gearing

2.47 rear end for the s63
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3.060 for the e63
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Likely gearing

2.47 rear end for the s63
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3.060 for the e63
Both 9 speeds or?
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Originally Posted by wassup61 View Post
Likely gearing

2.47 rear end for the s63
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3.060 for the e63
what's that?
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Just in today...I had to share it because is "light at the end of the tunnel" ))))

Dear AMG Performance Centers,

Thank you for your continued partnership and investment in the AMG brand. We recognize that the recent AMG product delays have impacted your AMG Performance Centers. The good news is there is light at the end of the tunnel as you all have started to see. Nevertheless, to help you work through these last few bumps in the road, MBUSA will provide a Q4 sales bye for AMG Performance Centers.............bla bla bla
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what is a "sales bye"?

Also, dumb question probably, what is an AMG Performance Center?
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Just in today...I had to share it because is "light at the end of the tunnel" ))))

Dear AMG Performance Centers,

Thank you for your continued partnership and investment in the AMG brand. We recognize that the recent AMG product delays have impacted your AMG Performance Centers. The good news is there is light at the end of the tunnel as you all have started to see. Nevertheless, to help you work through these last few bumps in the road, MBUSA will provide a Q4 sales bye for AMG Performance Centers.............bla bla bla
Sounds like they will not "penalize" your dealership's for not meeting quarterly sales quotas, which I sincerely understand SAs were severely impacted financially because of the delays. But have they indicated how they will compensate the customers for the impacts of the delay. I've been renting a vehicle since August due to the delay and would hope there would be some form of monetary compensation before we sign on the proverbial dotted line.

I want to say that guys like you and Shahul Usman have been instrumental in keeping a semblance of our sanity with periodic updates and VIN lookups, etc. Thanks again!

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Old 11-09-2018, 04:13 PM
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what is a "sales bye"?

Also, dumb question probably, what is an AMG Performance Center?
I had to cut the end of the email because it was not ok for sharing but "sales bye" means there's no more AMG Q4 target for the dealers who are AMG PC. As a dealer you can be an AMG PC if you meet some criteria and they get more AMG allocations.
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Originally Posted by joemezz View Post
Sounds like they will not "penalize" your dealership's for not meeting quarterly sales quotas, which I sincerely understand SAs were severely impacted financially because of the delays. But have they indicated how they will compensate the customers for the impacts of the delay. I've been renting a vehicle since August due to the delay and would hope there would be some form of monetary compensation before we sign on the proverbial dotted line.

I want to say that guys like you and Shahul Usman have been instrumental in keeping a semblance of our sanity with periodic updates and VIN lookups, etc. Thanks again!

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my dealer gave me a c300 loaner wile I waited for my C63s. Cant hurt to ask.
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my dealer gave me a c300 loaner wile I waited for my C63s. Cant hurt to ask.
I did ask and my SA legitimately went to bat for me, but the Sales Manager said he was screwed in the past by giving out a loaner and the customers vehicle was delayed for over 6 months. He said that when they see "a light at the end of the tunnel" and E53s are being released they will give me a loaner until mine arrives. Really? Four months of a car rental bill, offset by a 1-2 week loaner vehicle. Thanks a lot! Whispering (But I'll take it).
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I did ask and my SA legitimately went to bat for me, but the Sales Manager said he was screwed in the past by giving out a loaner and the customers vehicle was delayed for over 6 months. He said that when they see "a light at the end of the tunnel" and E53s are being released they will give me a loaner until mine arrives. Really? Four months of a car rental bill, offset by a 1-2 week loaner vehicle. Thanks a lot! Whispering (But I'll take it).
Hey to each their own but that wouldn't be good enough for me. You're buying a 120,000+ car that is NOT in demand whatsoever. Maybe time to find a sales manager that will do what it takes next time.

Note I also have 6 mercedes dealerships within 20 miles of my house so maybe they are more keen on keeping customers.

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Dealers donít care and manufacturer/corporate care even less. Car dealerships in general just have ****ty customer service. Thatís the sad fact.

i have never once seen a need to be a repeat customer from a dealer. A year after I got my W212 from a dealer (who is also a AMG PC), I called to ask what they could offer as a discount on the W213 it was peanuts; and that was only 12 months after I bought the W212.

i have a 130k truck in the shop right now for 12+ days that had a catastrophic failure less than a month of ownership with 1500 miles on it and by any safety standard should have been lemoned and You know what corporate said? Thatís too bad. We will order the parts for you and fix your vehicle. They are even questioning reimbursing me for a rental car for $200 because they told me ďoh loaner cars are a dealership program not a manufacturer programĒ.

one big cat and mouse game they blame each other.

so now I drive a compact economy while one sits in the shop waiting on parts and another is yet to be released due to some marketing gimmick corporate wants to play.

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Rear end gearing. Higher is more revs at speed. Both are 9 speed mct
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Just checked the engine specs on the 2019 S63. City fuel economy is 17, Highway fuel economy is 26. The 2018 E63S specs are 15/22. This is on a lighter car and same engine? Something is surely different.
Oddly, the Euro-spec for fuel economy is better for the E63S: 10.8 vs. 11.2 (lower is better). The fact that the S63 EO doesn't cover the E63S means the emission equipment is different. Perhaps that's the reason for the lower torque rating of the E63S.
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