AMG E53 First Impressions?
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I did not. This isn’t a shift quality issue, it’s shift programming which I doubt would change with an update. This is as designed. The way the hybrid system works, the car is pretty responsive at low rpm’s, which is why this is the first car where I could actually use eco mode. It was just a strange decision to do the same in sports mode, where it’s great for cruising around, but terrible when you need to call for outright power out of nowhere because it takes time to get into the right gear.
Edit: I understand it is by design but (in my opinion and just my opinion) everyone is unique and everyone drives differently, Mercedes can't assume one size fits all hence why manual adaptation is an available option in Xentry. For the C43, back in 2017 or so at one point, people complained about the bunny hop behaviour of the transmission and subsequent transmission updates did indeed mitigated the issue.
Either way, all the best that your new vehicle (the facelift) has a much smoother transmission to start.
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Thanks. I’m just looking forward to the first day I can put the top down, went from coupe to cabriolet. Right in the middle of winter right now in Canada so it’ll be a while.
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Speaking of which, I do see people putting their MB cabriolet's top down with Airscarf running and Aircap on in winter within the GTA as long as it isn't snowing and not too cold so hopefully you can try that and don't have to wait that long after all.
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I used to drive as cold as -10C in my SLK32 when I was young. I’m old now so that ain’t happening haha. Maybe airscarf will make the difference.
The bigger problem is the crap that gets splashed into the cabin from other cars.
The bigger problem is the crap that gets splashed into the cabin from other cars.
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You never know, if it is too cold you could always put the roof up but chances are you don't need to with Airscarf and Aircap : ) As for the splashing problem, hopefully there are days that roads are dry enough.
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Hello guys. I have an 2018 E53 and looking in an aftermarket exhaust. Mine doesn't have the AMG performance exhaust. At least I think not. But, how is it that in comfort mode it makes a exhaust noise and when in sport+ it make louder and popping exhaust noises...??!!
Note that I don't have the exhaust button in the care on the console...
I really don't know about the exhaust options of my car and the options for 2018 models .
Any ideas?
Note that I don't have the exhaust button in the care on the console...
I really don't know about the exhaust options of my car and the options for 2018 models .
Any ideas?
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I do that when I am driving alone. My gf isn't so crazy about it. In fact even in summer, top only goes down on our way home from something so her hair doesn't get messed up. Airscarf is awesome. The screen...not so great, but have not tried it on hyway yet, only around town.
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I do that when I am driving alone. My gf isn't so crazy about it. In fact even in summer, top only goes down on our way home from something so her hair doesn't get messed up. Airscarf is awesome. The screen...not so great, but have not tried it on hyway yet, only around town.
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Hello guys. I have an 2018 E53 and looking in an aftermarket exhaust. Mine doesn't have the AMG performance exhaust. At least I think not. But, how is it that in comfort mode it makes a exhaust noise and when in sport+ it make louder and popping exhaust noises...??!!
Note that I don't have the exhaust button in the care on the console...
I really don't know about the exhaust options of my car and the options for 2018 models .
Any ideas?
Note that I don't have the exhaust button in the care on the console...
I really don't know about the exhaust options of my car and the options for 2018 models .
Any ideas?
However, mbworld have forum sponsors that have aftermarket exhausts such as these: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-downpipe.html
Please do some research and then decide from there : ) . I didn't personally tried them so I can't share any opinion on this. Hopefully someone else chimes in.
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Yup if you don't see that button you mentioned then it indeed doesn't have a valve controlled exhaust or in your case, the performance exhaust. The pops you mentioned in sport+ is all controlled by the ECU, it is achieved by dumping fuel in the exhaust. With performance exhaust it is simply louder and there are bangs too on top of the existing popping sound on non-PE. As for aftermarket solutions I don't personally have any recommendations, sorry about that.
However, mbworld have forum sponsors that have aftermarket exhausts such as these: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-downpipe.html
Please do some research and then decide from there : ) . I didn't personally tried them so I can't share any opinion on this. Hopefully someone else chimes in.
However, mbworld have forum sponsors that have aftermarket exhausts such as these: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-downpipe.html
Please do some research and then decide from there : ) . I didn't personally tried them so I can't share any opinion on this. Hopefully someone else chimes in.
I have some options available. The Capristo one is with CE regulations. Also options are Tneer and Armytrix but the last two don't have EU regulations aproval! I am lookin for an road legal exhaust and not interested now in replacing the downpipe.
I will install maybe a catback and if I am not satisfied, I will do a sport downpipe with 200 cell cat.
Just didn't know what is going on with the exhaut that turns louder when in sport+ then other driving modes.
I thought that there are some valves that open even without PE.
Thanks so much!
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the answer is E450 maybe. When you buy a AMG model you have to expect brutal sound than normal engine/exhaust!
I am looking for an even louder exhaust. It's not annoying to me at all! 😀
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Thank you for the information!
I have some options available. The Capristo one is with CE regulations. Also options are Tneer and Armytrix but the last two don't have EU regulations aproval! I am lookin for an road legal exhaust and not interested now in replacing the downpipe.
I will install maybe a catback and if I am not satisfied, I will do a sport downpipe with 200 cell cat.
Just didn't know what is going on with the exhaut that turns louder when in sport+ then other driving modes.
I thought that there are some valves that open even without PE.
Thanks so much!
I have some options available. The Capristo one is with CE regulations. Also options are Tneer and Armytrix but the last two don't have EU regulations aproval! I am lookin for an road legal exhaust and not interested now in replacing the downpipe.
I will install maybe a catback and if I am not satisfied, I will do a sport downpipe with 200 cell cat.
Just didn't know what is going on with the exhaut that turns louder when in sport+ then other driving modes.
I thought that there are some valves that open even without PE.
Thanks so much!
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Update: I now have 1k on my E53. I live in the country during the summer. After warm up I can do full throttle from my garage for a half mile. A friend just drove the car with the exhaust on while I watched and it truly sounds awesome! Different from my v8's but just as good if not better. Can hear it a mile away. I race it every day but have not done corners yet which I will do of course. Virtually no turbo lag which I find hard to believe. Quicker off the line than my non Turbo cars but not my 600hp supercharged Jag. of course. Shifts in Sport Plus are not as fast as my LC but what is? Ride is a little stiff even in Comfort so I might replace the run flats. I needed one car with a back seat with the capability of long distance touring and it satisfies that need though it's only better than the LC because of the massaging seats and the extra space. The engine and drivetrain is excellent! An excellent Sedan. Very familiar with BMW's and it's better, considering styling, reliability, ride, mpg's, etc. They are all different and none are perfect.
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2013 E350 Facelift (Japan Import) 2007 E350 Elegance Wagon, 2014 E350 Wagon facelift model Jap Model
The ride difference between them is chalk and cheese!!! The E350 is like floating on a cloud compared to the AMG E53....So is the power difference and handling...AMG is a lot firmer and highly strung to drive, AWD also makes the steering a lot heavier in the AMG also. They're worlds apart in some aspects. Then you select Sport+ in the AMG and you feel every bump and ripple in the road that's for sure, cabin noise is much higher due to louder free flowing exhaust on the AMG.
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I have a 18 E53 AMG Wagon and a S212 14 E350 wagon both on 20" wheels.
The ride difference between them is chalk and cheese!!! The E350 is like floating on a cloud compared to the AMG E53....So is the power difference and handling...AMG is a lot firmer and highly strung to drive, AWD also makes the steering a lot heavier in the AMG also. They're worlds apart in some aspects. Then you select Sport+ in the AMG and you feel every bump and ripple in the road that's for sure, cabin noise is much higher due to louder free flowing exhaust on the AMG.
The ride difference between them is chalk and cheese!!! The E350 is like floating on a cloud compared to the AMG E53....So is the power difference and handling...AMG is a lot firmer and highly strung to drive, AWD also makes the steering a lot heavier in the AMG also. They're worlds apart in some aspects. Then you select Sport+ in the AMG and you feel every bump and ripple in the road that's for sure, cabin noise is much higher due to louder free flowing exhaust on the AMG.
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I have a 2022 E53 on 20 inch run flat pirellis.
I came from a 2012 750Li, the E53 ride is hard even in comfort mode. Road noise is pretty significant. I am not sure if 19 inch non run flats will make a difference, people on these forums state that it's a significant improvement.
I expected more comfort from an E class, but maybe I just didn't understand what AMG is designed for.
For sporty driving, Sport+ is really fun to drive.
Suspension really comes to life when you are at speeds of 60 miles plus, it really handles undulations well then. The car seems to be designed for the Autobahn, and once on the highway it really wants to go fast.. it feels great then.
I came from a 2012 750Li, the E53 ride is hard even in comfort mode. Road noise is pretty significant. I am not sure if 19 inch non run flats will make a difference, people on these forums state that it's a significant improvement.
I expected more comfort from an E class, but maybe I just didn't understand what AMG is designed for.
For sporty driving, Sport+ is really fun to drive.
Suspension really comes to life when you are at speeds of 60 miles plus, it really handles undulations well then. The car seems to be designed for the Autobahn, and once on the highway it really wants to go fast.. it feels great then.
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Coming from a 2015 BMWc650IX convertible, to a 2019 E53 Convertible (now 6 years and 57,000 miles later), the E53 in comfort mode, is too soft for me. I have my Individual setting dialed in, not in sport +, but sport, with the exhaust in sport mode as well. The 20" runflats are the worst. I did purchase the tire and wheel insurance, and have had to replace 6 wheels, but the tires can only be replaced with OEM tires under the policy. For the past 5 winters, I ran snow tires, and this year I replaced them with all season Michelin PSS. They're not runflats, and still, the first pothole I hit, the tire was gone. The sidewalls are just too small, and can't absorb any hit. Other than that, I'm fully enjoying the car, and the new replacement, is a bit smaller, and I don't want that, and the S class, is just too big...........
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Thanks for this! What I'm trying to narrow down is how is the ride in comfort mode? Is it actually comfortable? And what tires are you running? Sorry for all the questions. I just really want some insight from owners who live with them. I'm not looking for an S class, but I want to make sure it's a marked improvement over my C43
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the problem is test drives are so incredibly short, so that’s why I’m asking any and everyone I can who lives with one on a daily basis there $.02. It isn’t until you’ve put several hundred miles on a vehicle where you can really start poking holes through the excited veneer and really understand what you love, like and hopefully not, but possibly hate.
Sorry if y’all keep seeing this newbie idiot asking the same questions on here! 🙏
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I have a 2022 E53 on 20 inch run flat pirellis.
I came from a 2012 750Li, the E53 ride is hard even in comfort mode. Road noise is pretty significant. I am not sure if 19 inch non run flats will make a difference, people on these forums state that it's a significant improvement.
I expected more comfort from an E class, but maybe I just didn't understand what AMG is designed for.
For sporty driving, Sport+ is really fun to drive.
Suspension really comes to life when you are at speeds of 60 miles plus, it really handles undulations well then. The car seems to be designed for the Autobahn, and once on the highway it really wants to go fast.. it feels great then.
I came from a 2012 750Li, the E53 ride is hard even in comfort mode. Road noise is pretty significant. I am not sure if 19 inch non run flats will make a difference, people on these forums state that it's a significant improvement.
I expected more comfort from an E class, but maybe I just didn't understand what AMG is designed for.
For sporty driving, Sport+ is really fun to drive.
Suspension really comes to life when you are at speeds of 60 miles plus, it really handles undulations well then. The car seems to be designed for the Autobahn, and once on the highway it really wants to go fast.. it feels great then.
I’m sure you’ve considered ditching the run flats? Possibly even going with an AS tire like Pilot Sports or even Primacy?
Regardless, I don’t mind feeling the road, but what I don’t want is that feeling to translate into a punch in the cabin and everything shakes.
Would you still say all things considered that you’re happy with the car or does the stiff nature even in comfort mode ware on you a bit?
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Coming from a 2015 BMWc650IX convertible, to a 2019 E53 Convertible (now 6 years and 57,000 miles later), the E53 in comfort mode, is too soft for me. I have my Individual setting dialed in, not in sport +, but sport, with the exhaust in sport mode as well. The 20" runflats are the worst. I did purchase the tire and wheel insurance, and have had to replace 6 wheels, but the tires can only be replaced with OEM tires under the policy. For the past 5 winters, I ran snow tires, and this year I replaced them with all season Michelin PSS. They're not runflats, and still, the first pothole I hit, the tire was gone. The sidewalls are just too small, and can't absorb any hit. Other than that, I'm fully enjoying the car, and the new replacement, is a bit smaller, and I don't want that, and the S class, is just too big...........
if it’s too soft in comfort, huh? Do you prefer a stiffer ride? Anyone saying too soft comfort mode to me is actually a massive positive 🤣
do you or anyone else happen to know if there is a difference in suspension tuning from the PFL to FL models?
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You’re spot on and I definitely will. Hopefully today, actually!
the problem is test drives are so incredibly short, so that’s why I’m asking any and everyone I can who lives with one on a daily basis there $.02. It isn’t until you’ve put several hundred miles on a vehicle where you can really start poking holes through the excited veneer and really understand what you love, like and hopefully not, but possibly hate.
Sorry if y’all keep seeing this newbie idiot asking the same questions on here! 🙏
the problem is test drives are so incredibly short, so that’s why I’m asking any and everyone I can who lives with one on a daily basis there $.02. It isn’t until you’ve put several hundred miles on a vehicle where you can really start poking holes through the excited veneer and really understand what you love, like and hopefully not, but possibly hate.
Sorry if y’all keep seeing this newbie idiot asking the same questions on here! 🙏
Don't worry about the questions, there aren't any bad questions. That is part of the point of the forums after all, asking and answering questions
