Bingo. The tires on the vehicle determine top speed limitation. Another piece from Germany,
all of the cars I have rented have an option under vehicle settings to limit top speed to "Winter Tire Speed" or something to that effect. Essentially, it limits the car to 210 km/hr or 240 km/ hr depending on the speed rating of the Winter Tire.

-C

Stumbling around the "New Posts" and I find this little gem. I cringed through this entire thread until I got to this posting. Thank you for providing some level headedness in this discussion that has gone out of control. I am stuck down in Stuttgart and dream of getting up to K-town and the empty bahns. I agree with you full in regards to touring Affalterbach and would add to take a tour at the Sindelfingen factory where, like most of the other MB factories, both MB and AMGs are assembled. I was surprised to find out that all Mercedes are assembled "by class" on the same lines. We saw both S450s and S63s being built on the same exact finishing line. The AMG pieces are sent down to the factories and assembled by the same people working on regular MBs. I posed the question to our guide, and he gave me a very peculiar look. He said 43s and 53s have to be AMGs because it says so. Pretty simple answer. To the OP, don't get drug into such a horribly rediculous argument. You obviously appreciate AMG given you have various lines in your stable.

AMG was not "one man, one engine" before it became "one man, one engine". That was the greatest marketing scheme in automotive history, IMHO. AMG was never supposed to be about that. Good reads are everywhere about the history of AMG. I would guess that the ONE is not a true AMG with that mentality. Neither the Cigarette boats with AMG plastered on their hulls. It is sad to see folks squable about such asinine things, and shows the real arrogance (and ignorance) of some of the owners. This looks more like a thread that belongs on a BMW forum.

I would agree that it has to do with the speed ratings on the tires, to answer your original question. Nothing more, nothing less.

Well this thread turned quite ugly.

I don't own any AMG but my basic opinion is that if Mercedes says that a model is an AMG then it is an AMG.

Also, the 53 and 43 models are not limited to 130mph in Europe.

Even my old BMW 2-litre diesel used to have a top speed limited to 155mph and was surely capable of going even faster, otherwise no need for the limiter. I never drove anywhere near that fast, but it seems ridiculous that a car of the caliber of an E53 should be restricted to an even lower top speed. Obviously there are reasons why it has been limited in the US, and that low rated tires have been fitted, but I don't know what they are and I'm sure that it is some BS that is designed to create more differentiation between models on paper.

Good questions and points.

Too me, if MB were truly competing with the BMW 550i and Audi S6, then doing what BMW did would make sense: offer a "performance package" with a higher top speed (mostly just higher speed rated tires.) Or, as you are saying, just have the car limited to 150 MPH out of the box with V or W rated tires....Something tells me this decision is a marketing thing.

In this regard, the GT, GTS and GTC all come with Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. The GTR and E63S come with the new Michelin Pilot Port 4S tires. When I asked my Inventory specialist to have MB put on the 4S on my GTC, the response we got back from MB was MB cannot guarantee tire brand or type upon delivery... 😕 Again, I think this comes down to marketing vehicles.

Happy motoring/driving-it-like-you-stoke-it/cruising around town all! 🙂

-C

I have a real AMG E63S, how do I get the free track day?

Entertaining thread... I hope OP will enjoy the new car safely and in good health.

V70cat... it is amazing that so many dealers neglect to inform buyers of AMG cars that each new purchase entitles you to an AMG track day. That's half the reason I'm reloading!

One thing the feds did not think of with their speed limit versus tire speed limit.... (

nothing prevents an owner from buying cheap low speed tires and having them installed ....

So bring on those cheap CHINESE "F" rated tires @ $25 each!

Sometimes the nanny state sux!
LOL

This is an amazing thread, outside of the language in some posts.

I have the E53 "AMG" . I love it. Absolutely!. Debated between the E63 and this, did not buy the E63 not because of the real vs fake emotion, but because for 45k less (when I put my options on), I thought this better fit my needs. For track, I have a champ car and a Mini Cooper, so this will see track maybe once or twice a year. For people who see the car they wow at the AMG. When I see an E63, I bow to the master as I understand the difference.I even compared to an RS5 sportback as I was a Audi guy for 15 years, but in the end chose the AMG E53.

But to the original question, the engine and tires in the 53 series are extremely capable of going beyond 130mph. When the Eagles Canyon track opens up, there will be some straightaways where I may be able to push that. But the car wont!!!! Argh!!!!!!!
Is there a hack... In the Audis, I could do a lot myself with the VAGCOMs. Not sure if we can do this in Mercs vs debating and complaining.

Btw, love my E53, proud of it.

Well, Fab settled your initial question in post #75, but for this one, I'm going with #2. I guess it could be a supplier issue, as well...MB seems to have a ton of those issues, which would ultimately lead back to pricing. They could cut a deal with Conti, Pirelli, whomever and supply a H-rated tire for the "fake" 53 that will suffice in 99% of the cases (H rating is prob fine for most) and at a lower cost. Double win.

Just my 2 cents, but what the hell do I know, I bought a lowly 43 model. I just wanted to come swing my pee-pee around in her like everyone else, which apparently is more fun if you have a 63.

100% True. Basically it is not a real AMG. It is not made in the AMG Factory. The "C43" Is no different then the C400/C450. Basically a upgraded C Class with AMG Badges. The same applies for the E53. Very sad

Ahhh reading comprehension My wife teaches English and I bet if she explained this to her kids grades 6-12 they would understand. Key words here...
Amazing what marketing can do to some people no?

Still haven't reached a conclusion on whether the E53 is a real AMG or not.

But I've gleaned from the thread that the OP, who is not a dude, doesn't need a E63 to make her dick bigger, and feels she is a woman even though she does not have huge ****.

I would tend to agree with her, huge ***** don't make someone a woman.

That said, if a woman wanted to go for some bolt-ons, a tune, new shoes. I'd think a speed limiter increase is certainly in order . . .

No AMG is built in Affalterbach..So, that argument is invalid...I can't believe this nonsense. So much misinformation. I am so glad I was given the opportunity to live in the home of MB and AMG....This discussion is childish and embarrassing...Way to go "enthusiasts."

popcorn

lol, no comment. Just here enjoying the thread XD

Holy shut, this must be the most non **** getting group on this forum...

Your sig only says you have an SL 450. I'm going to rely on an old Ronald Reagan quote: "Trust but verify." If you have a 2017 SL63 and 2019 C63 S. Go to your car(s) and start them - (sitting inside), holding a spoon by the speedo/tach and take a pic. No personal info is divulged and proves you own these cars. Dash and hood overlook while your holding a spoon can't be faked or photoshopped - at least very easily. This would help your credibility (since you stated you own these cars) and would assure we're not getting punk'd. Like this.