Weistec W213 E63 W.3 Turbo Upgrade
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Weistec W213 E63 W.3 Turbo Upgrade
Weistec Engineering W.3 Turbo upgrade for W213 E63
Here at Weistec Engineering we are continuing product development in order to be an industry leader in AMG performance upgrades. We are proud to announce our W213/W222 M177 W.3 Turbo Upgrade. This system uses the stock turbo core and replaces the impeller with a 65mm 5 Axis CNC machined Weistec version, uses a high RPM balancing, and machines the compressor cover and center cartridge to fit the new, more powerful, internals. This 100% bolt on installation includes all the necessary hardware and gaskets, and leaves your vehicle with a discreet stock appearance, but large gains.
With these upgrades we were able to increase power figures to 680+ horsepower** at the wheels on 91 octane using just our W.3 Turbo upgrades, a downpipe, and tune to make the best use of these high performance upgrades. In conjunction with the Weistec Water Methanol Injection kit these figures shot up to 720+ horsepower. The setup provides great gains throughout the RPM range. This upgrade is a great option for those looking for significant power increases, but not the more heavy investment that a full replacement turbo system would require.
**Power gains are different per vehicle due to parts installed, engine health, mileage, etc.
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We at Weistec are focused on maximizing the potential for every platform we touch and specialize in new engine performance products and tuning. We have been an industry leader in Mercedes-Benz and AMG performance parts and tunes for over 10 years. We design and develop our parts to provide the highest levels of performance and reliability across our entire product range.
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Feel free to place an order any time online at Weistec.com!
Weistec W.3 Turbo Upgrade - $4999.99
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Dealers:
We have Weistec Dealers located all over the globe! Find one near you to help you with your upgrade and installation!
Weistec Dealer Locator
Phone:
You can reach us directly by calling 714-202-0005 to place your order over the phone.
Hours of Operations:
Monday - Friday from 8AM to 5PM PST
Saturday & Sunday - Closed
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Phone: 714-202-0005
Email: Sales@weistec.com
Website: http://www.Weistec.com
Here at Weistec Engineering we are continuing product development in order to be an industry leader in AMG performance upgrades. We are proud to announce our W213/W222 M177 W.3 Turbo Upgrade. This system uses the stock turbo core and replaces the impeller with a 65mm 5 Axis CNC machined Weistec version, uses a high RPM balancing, and machines the compressor cover and center cartridge to fit the new, more powerful, internals. This 100% bolt on installation includes all the necessary hardware and gaskets, and leaves your vehicle with a discreet stock appearance, but large gains.
With these upgrades we were able to increase power figures to 680+ horsepower** at the wheels on 91 octane using just our W.3 Turbo upgrades, a downpipe, and tune to make the best use of these high performance upgrades. In conjunction with the Weistec Water Methanol Injection kit these figures shot up to 720+ horsepower. The setup provides great gains throughout the RPM range. This upgrade is a great option for those looking for significant power increases, but not the more heavy investment that a full replacement turbo system would require.
**Power gains are different per vehicle due to parts installed, engine health, mileage, etc.
About Us:
We at Weistec are focused on maximizing the potential for every platform we touch and specialize in new engine performance products and tuning. We have been an industry leader in Mercedes-Benz and AMG performance parts and tunes for over 10 years. We design and develop our parts to provide the highest levels of performance and reliability across our entire product range.
Ordering:
Feel free to place an order any time online at Weistec.com!
Weistec W.3 Turbo Upgrade - $4999.99
Weistec Mercedes-Benz Full Line
Dealers:
We have Weistec Dealers located all over the globe! Find one near you to help you with your upgrade and installation!
Weistec Dealer Locator
Phone:
You can reach us directly by calling 714-202-0005 to place your order over the phone.
Hours of Operations:
Monday - Friday from 8AM to 5PM PST
Saturday & Sunday - Closed
Contact Info:
Phone: 714-202-0005
Email: Sales@weistec.com
Website: http://www.Weistec.com
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Additionally, links to these threads regarding our kits being something from Amazon would be great. Weistec prototypes, builds, and tests 95% of our components in house. We make the wiring harnesses for the kit, measure all hoses to length, build all fittings, brackets and nozzles, and even make the 100% custom bolt-on silicone couplers with nozzle ports that specifically fit our kit. We sell top quality, USA made product. The only thing in the kit that isn't our design is the AEM WMI controller. In regards to some components seeming similar to others kits, some things just don't need to be broken down and redesigned to avoid looking similar to others product. There is no other WMI kit for these vehicles that is as easy to install as ours or has the background and warranty's that we offer.
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Nice, So around 75hp above your tune only run with these turbos and WMI kit? What's with the small loss on the low end? Bit more lag with these bigger impellers?
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Unfortunately yes, the bigger impeller does increase spool time slightly. However when actually driving the car the difference is hardly noticeable!
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Our turbo pricing at this time does not include a tune. The tune is additional. We do offer a discount when purchasing a complete W.3 Package for the vehicle, however.
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I'm no business man guru, but charging $5k for something your competitor charges $3.5k for doesn't seem like a great business move. The justification of "well... we sell other stuff too" doesn't really help me as a consumer feel any more secure in wanting to spend the extra money on your brand. If anything, I've read way more great things about Pure Turbos than Weistec. Maybe I'm just not your target customer?
> meth kit
"Don’t waste $3k on a Weistec kit when they just rebrand a $400 AEM kit. The only thing Weistec is doing is welding bungs onto intake pipes and painting them red."
I hope this message doesn't come across as intentionally rude or trying to attack your business/marketing. I'm sure Weistec does a lot of great stuff for the community. I hope it's obvious that I'm just trying to aggregate information for other members who may stumble upon these posts while browsing the forum (which I feel that's what we all come here for... unbiased and factual information )
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> turbos
I'm no business man guru, but charging $5k for something your competitor charges $3.5k for doesn't seem like a great business move. The justification of "well... we sell other stuff too" doesn't really help me as a consumer feel any more secure in wanting to spend the extra money on your brand. If anything, I've read way more great things about Pure Turbos than Weistec. Maybe I'm just not your target customer?
> meth kit
"Don’t waste $3k on a Weistec kit when they just rebrand a $400 AEM kit. The only thing Weistec is doing is welding bungs onto intake pipes and painting them red."
https://www.amazon.com/AEM-30-3300-1.../dp/B00GSBKNF2
I hope this message doesn't come across as intentionally rude or trying to attack your business/marketing. I'm sure Weistec does a lot of great stuff for the community. I hope it's obvious that I'm just trying to aggregate information for other members who may stumble upon these posts while browsing the forum (which I feel that's what we all come here for... unbiased and factual information )
I'm no business man guru, but charging $5k for something your competitor charges $3.5k for doesn't seem like a great business move. The justification of "well... we sell other stuff too" doesn't really help me as a consumer feel any more secure in wanting to spend the extra money on your brand. If anything, I've read way more great things about Pure Turbos than Weistec. Maybe I'm just not your target customer?
> meth kit
"Don’t waste $3k on a Weistec kit when they just rebrand a $400 AEM kit. The only thing Weistec is doing is welding bungs onto intake pipes and painting them red."
https://www.amazon.com/AEM-30-3300-1.../dp/B00GSBKNF2
I hope this message doesn't come across as intentionally rude or trying to attack your business/marketing. I'm sure Weistec does a lot of great stuff for the community. I hope it's obvious that I'm just trying to aggregate information for other members who may stumble upon these posts while browsing the forum (which I feel that's what we all come here for... unbiased and factual information )
In regards to the water methanol system, if you were to take 5 seconds to look at even a photo of our WMI system you would see that what we offer is VASTLY superior to the link you provided. Everything we supply is literally bolt on, and nothing of the kit is AEM except for the controller. Custom molded silicone hoses to fit your application, cut to length hosing and electrical, custom fittings and nozzles, custom trunk tank with mounted pump, literally everything about the two kits is different. You would easily spend a week trying to fit a generic AEM water methanol kit like you linked, having to find and source your own electrical connections, drill your own holes for fitting nozzles, hack the car apart to find a boost source, and who knows what else just to make that fit. But again, if you're looking to save a couple bucks, feel free to choose a subpar product.
These are high dollar cars and deserve high quality components, and unfortunately you cant get high quality for cheap.
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The pricing for our kits was decided based on a number of factors, from the high quality materials used to the time it takes to properly cnc machine, balance and test every piece here in our facility as well as the cost of all new seals and bearings. This is also factoring in the literal months of time we have spent developing custom tuning software and components that work directly with these turbos to ensure the best most reliable power and components possible.
Users chiromikey and internet can back me up on the water meth injection kit. They are more knowledgable on whether or not Weistec's $1k tax on a WMI kit is worth it.
All I'm saying is, we all see what Amazon sellers are doing to mom + pop retailers trying to charge through the nose. They're squeezing margins into thin air (and that's with Amazon's 13-15% fees + seller paid shipping). The days of "E63/M5 tax" are limited, in my opinion. Same reason a JB4 for an M3/M4 is less than an M5. Marketing believes since the clientele has a more expensive car, they'll pay more for a product. Historically, it has been true. But, as things like bootmod3 come out, I would guess the market shifts away from $3k tunes and more towards $1k tunes. Maybe the same goes for WMI kits and turbos...
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...In regards to the water methanol system, if you were to take 5 seconds to look at even a photo of our WMI system you would see that what we offer is VASTLY superior to the link you provided. Everything we supply is literally bolt on, and nothing of the kit is AEM except for the controller. Custom molded silicone hoses to fit your application, cut to length hosing and electrical, custom fittings and nozzles, custom trunk tank with mounted pump, literally everything about the two kits is different. You would easily spend a week trying to fit a generic AEM water methanol kit like you linked, having to find and source your own electrical connections, drill your own holes for fitting nozzles, hack the car apart to find a boost source, and who knows what else just to make that fit. But again, if you're looking to save a couple bucks, feel free to choose a subpar product.
These are high dollar cars and deserve high quality components, and unfortunately you cant get high quality for cheap.
These are high dollar cars and deserve high quality components, and unfortunately you cant get high quality for cheap.
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Devil's advocate, but uh... what do you think Pure Turbo's sales rep would say on why they chose $3.5k for their price target? Because they use low quality material and don't properly CnC machine + balance + test every piece? Bias in marketing/sales is tough.
Users chiromikey and internet can back me up on the water meth injection kit. They are more knowledgable on whether or not Weistec's $1k tax on a WMI kit is worth it.
All I'm saying is, we all see what Amazon sellers are doing to mom + pop retailers trying to charge through the nose. They're squeezing margins into thin air (and that's with Amazon's 13-15% fees + seller paid shipping). The days of "E63/M5 tax" are limited, in my opinion. Same reason a JB4 for an M3/M4 is less than an M5. Marketing believes since the clientele has a more expensive car, they'll pay more for a product. Historically, it has been true. But, as things like bootmod3 come out, I would guess the market shifts away from $3k tunes and more towards $1k tunes. Maybe the same goes for WMI kits and turbos...
Users chiromikey and internet can back me up on the water meth injection kit. They are more knowledgable on whether or not Weistec's $1k tax on a WMI kit is worth it.
All I'm saying is, we all see what Amazon sellers are doing to mom + pop retailers trying to charge through the nose. They're squeezing margins into thin air (and that's with Amazon's 13-15% fees + seller paid shipping). The days of "E63/M5 tax" are limited, in my opinion. Same reason a JB4 for an M3/M4 is less than an M5. Marketing believes since the clientele has a more expensive car, they'll pay more for a product. Historically, it has been true. But, as things like bootmod3 come out, I would guess the market shifts away from $3k tunes and more towards $1k tunes. Maybe the same goes for WMI kits and turbos...
Spoken like a typical salesman. This is nowhere near the truth. The basic AEM kit that you rebranded can easily be installed in a few hours, NOT A WEEK. Implying that cutting lines to desired lengths isn’t simple and easy is laughable. And please don’t further bullsh*t people by saying they would need to “hack the car apart to find a boost source”. The only thing that some might need to outsource is welding the injector bungs on the charge pipes and even that is pretty damned easy. I also find it ironic that you call the product you rebranded “subpar”.
What you're claiming is false, gross misinformation about an obviously much higher quality and simple to install product.
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It is what it is Muffin, we stand by our product and our pricing. We leave it to the consumer to decide whom they wish to work with. Maybe pricing will change eventually, but for now it is as it stands. If you do not wish to use our product that is of your own choice and we respect that..
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I can't understand why someone is complaining about others' business. If you can find something cheaper, better, shinier - get it. This is only business.
As an example. I've been on market for catless downpipes for 2 months, I've learned many products from a ton different shops and companies and I respect their products, developing and etc, but I found my product, yes that took a month to get it but the price is less than 15 hundreds was worth to wait.
I just want to say, I respect everyone in this thread but this is changing nothing when you trying to shame someone for a higher price even when they just repacked others product. Better choice - vote with your $ and that's it
With respect to all of you guys
As an example. I've been on market for catless downpipes for 2 months, I've learned many products from a ton different shops and companies and I respect their products, developing and etc, but I found my product, yes that took a month to get it but the price is less than 15 hundreds was worth to wait.
I just want to say, I respect everyone in this thread but this is changing nothing when you trying to shame someone for a higher price even when they just repacked others product. Better choice - vote with your $ and that's it
With respect to all of you guys
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Well... there's a fine line between "I'm advertising my products" and "I'm saying my products are the best and claiming it as fact" and "I'm ignoring that the competition offers arguably the exact same thing (either the same quality, lower quality, or higher quality) for 20-30% less"
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Well... there's a fine line between "I'm advertising my products" and "I'm saying my products are the best and claiming it as fact" and "I'm ignoring that the competition offers arguably the exact same thing (either the same quality, lower quality, or higher quality) for 20-30% less"
But I like your question and the links you've provided. Funny to read this online's war
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I was contemplating purchasing Wesitec's W.3 turbos for the M157 platform but at $13,299.99 (keeping cores and no tune), it doesn't make sense to buy them since the W.4 is $13,999.99 with no cores and completely new turbos. What's ironic is that Pureturbos sell bascially the same turbos (internally modified only) with no core for $8,495? Besides what's already stated, convince me why I should spend another $5k on Weistec turbos compared to Pureturbos.
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I was contemplating purchasing Wesitec's W.3 turbos for the M157 platform but at $13,299.99 (keeping cores and no tune), it doesn't make sense to buy them since the W.4 is $13,999.99 with no cores and completely new turbos. What's ironic is that Pureturbos sell bascially the same turbos (internally modified only) with no core for $8,495? Besides what's already stated, convince me why I should spend another $5k on Weistec turbos compared to Pureturbos.
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I was contemplating purchasing Wesitec's W.3 turbos for the M157 platform but at $13,299.99 (keeping cores and no tune), it doesn't make sense to buy them since the W.4 is $13,999.99 with no cores and completely new turbos. What's ironic is that Pureturbos sell bascially the same turbos (internally modified only) with no core for $8,495? Besides what's already stated, convince me why I should spend another $5k on Weistec turbos compared to Pureturbos.
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BECAUSE THEY USE THE BEST MATERIALS SOURCED FROM THE FINEST AREAS OF MANKIND DIAMONDBLAK! THEY PAY THE MOST ATTENTION. THEY KISS THE TURBOS ON THE WAY OUT. DOES STUPID ****ING PURETURBOS DO THAT? **** NO. WEISTEC GROWS THE TURBOS FROMO THE FINEST WHEAT AND BARLEY AND HOPS. THEY ARE ORGANIC, GRASSFED, VEGAN TURBOS. THE TURBOS SING SONGS. THE TURBOS TIE SHOWS. THE TURBOS DANCE THE CHA CHA CHA. WHY WOULDN'T YOU SPEND MORE MONEY ON WEISTEC TURBOS? WHAT ARE YOU, SOME BROKE DUMB IDIOT? YOU AREN'T OUR CUSTOMER, YOUR THRIFTY RESEARCHY CONSUMER YOU!
I stated it just to illustrate the purpose.
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...If you wish to purchase a system that comes with a small tank, generic chinese wiring harness that isn't plug and play, and fabricate your own nozzle bungs on your car, be our guest. Our kit is direct fit, no modification necessary, comes with a bigger, higher quality tank and proper sealing cap to avoid any possible leakage issues in your $100k+ vehicle and also comes with a warranty for every single component we supply. That is who this kit is for, not for someone who wishes to do it all themselves and still be unable to easily return to stock. We also supply complete instruction manuals to install into your car. I can understand wanting to save money on a kit, but to compare our product to this cheap generic AEM kit is laughable. Again just comparing photos of the kits side by side you can see all of the different components.
What you're claiming is false, gross misinformation about an obviously much higher quality and simple to install product.
What you're claiming is false, gross misinformation about an obviously much higher quality and simple to install product.