2021 Facelift engine changes
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2021 Facelift engine changes
The 2021 will be augmented with an electric motor. Any idea what the new hp ratings will be?
https://www.motor1.com/news/345994/all-mercedes-amg-electrify-2021/amp/
https://www.motor1.com/news/345994/all-mercedes-amg-electrify-2021/amp/
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...the wording is no car "launched". The current E63 "launched" back in 2017. The next E63 will launch around 2024. Existing cars will end their current generations with their current powertrains. The W214 E63/73 will be a hybrid AMG.
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The press release said scheduled to come out. There was no mention of a new model run. My dealer was quite specific with his information.
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Enjoy your disappointment. The reason the 53 has hybridization is because there’s enough room with a 6-cylinder with the current platform to offer it. Current “packaging” with V8 models prohibits the addition of the electric motors and other components, there’s just not enough space. They will account for this with the W214 and other models. The key word in that interview is models LAUNCHING after 2021 (i.e. models not already in production).
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Enjoy your disappointment. The reason the 53 has hybridization is because there’s enough room with a 6-cylinder with the current platform to offer it. Current “packaging” with V8 models prohibits the addition of the electric motors and other components, there’s just not enough space. They will account for this with the W214 and other models. The key word in that interview is models LAUNCHING after 2021 (i.e. models not already in production).
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Going forward AMG vehicles will include hybridization. The current E63 will keep its current power plant. If you dealer is telling you otherwise, I'm not surprised. Dealers are usually the last people to know what's going on and often insist that they're correct even when proven wrong.
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I'm sure it will be great for stoplight and short sprints with time to recharge between accelerations. Wonder though how it will do on the autobahn where you can diddle along at high speed for some distance and not hit the brakes or get into regeneration mode.
The charge will draw down on the e motor after a bit and then you're stuck trying to maintain high speed with wind drag on a reduced petrol power plant alone.
The charge will draw down on the e motor after a bit and then you're stuck trying to maintain high speed with wind drag on a reduced petrol power plant alone.
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The face lift has my head spinning on when to actually pull the trigger here. It even had me sign up for swapalease to sniff around for a short term lease (Alpina B7 for a year?) to bridge me over to MY2021.
I was hoping that there would be confirmation that the E63s was going hybrid in 2021, as that would make it an easy decision to go ahead with a 2020 build. That hope is dashed...and so I'm stuck on the fence.
Let me list the stupid things that I assume will be in the facelift, and that I value for some reason:
- PRND stalk...currently it's the same cheap crappy plastic stalk you get in the GLK...the new GT63 has something more fitting to a car of this price.
- New colors...the current colors don't really do it for me, evident by the fact that I am leaning towards white or grey if I go 2020. I like the new Mojave silver (with night package) offered elsewhere...and I'd take a hard look at a chalk-like color or something funky like that.
- MBUX...and bring on USB-C and perhaps wireless CarPlay
- Enhanced or improved self drive...this is the most speculative, but it would be a nice bonus if the MB systems continued to improve and were implemented in a face life.
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Hmm... My original post was from a news article which documented the comments from the head of AMG. I suppose we'll just have to see what ensues. A 2021 DOG would certainly squash any doubts on changes.
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Since the DOG for 2020 came out a month ago it will be a bit before the 2021 arrives.
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Enjoy your disappointment. The reason the 53 has hybridization is because there’s enough room with a 6-cylinder with the current platform to offer it. Current “packaging” with V8 models prohibits the addition of the electric motors and other components, there’s just not enough space. They will account for this with the W214 and other models. The key word in that interview is models LAUNCHING after 2021 (i.e. models not already in production).
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How many people will leave AMG and go to a brand that offers a snarling V8 that *doesn't* have an electric motor?
Where we lose out, as consumer, is if both BMW + Audi + Mercedes all start offering hybrid-only solutions.
But people (myself included) have been crying about cars losing their purity for years. Little by little, we get over it because we have no other options. Cars become safer and faster, and more numb and more electronically assisted.
If we have no options but to have some hybridization in our sports car because it gives better throttle response/acceleration... what are we going to do? Yank it out after we buy it? lol
Where we lose out, as consumer, is if both BMW + Audi + Mercedes all start offering hybrid-only solutions.
But people (myself included) have been crying about cars losing their purity for years. Little by little, we get over it because we have no other options. Cars become safer and faster, and more numb and more electronically assisted.
If we have no options but to have some hybridization in our sports car because it gives better throttle response/acceleration... what are we going to do? Yank it out after we buy it? lol
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I think it's clear that anything here is PURE speculation with personal bias playing into what people think AMG will do. All we have is the CEO saying new cars launched after 2021 will have electric motors in addition to petrol. The only thing up for debate is what he means by "launched" which has a pretty specific connotation when it comes to cars.
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I think it's clear that anything here is PURE speculation with personal bias playing into what people think AMG will do. All we have is the CEO saying new cars launched after 2021 will have electric motors in addition to petrol. The only thing up for debate is what he means by "launched" which has a pretty specific connotation when it comes to cars.
The E63S on 213-platform was launched several years ago. The 214 is still not launched and will be a hybrid.
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pure speculation, but still interesting
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What's the drama? Never saw anyone whining about the Posche 918 being a hybrid or the upcoming AMG One. AMG will be moving toward a power solution, not a Prius..
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I'd expect they'll be coupling up a petrol power plant with ~400 hp with an electric motor of whatever output. After a few minutes of sustained output the battery will be drained and the electrical component of the hybrid will no longer be adding anything - and may even be a net loss.
Drag increases exponentially with speed, so I suspect one would only notice this at speeds we're not likely to see here in the states for any sustained period of time.
