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Old 01-01-2020, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MrkiC63
I run yesterday a stock 2019 E63s station wagon ... soon software 🤪

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The same car is now in the 9's

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Nice! But I still stand by my original comments.
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6.95s for stage 2 with meth

would you consider ordering a $2k cpc replacement? otherwise... you are looking at only 1s (12.5%) improvement over stock
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
6.95s for stage 2 with meth

would you consider ordering a $2k cpc replacement? otherwise... you are looking at only 1s (12.5%) improvement over stock
Next step is turbo upgrade. This 6.95 was on a 10.7 1/4 mile run. I can’t find what it was on my 10.6 run but probably marginally better. I think I will crack I tot the 5’s for 100-200 this year.
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Next step is turbo upgrade. This 6.95 was on a 10.7 1/4 mile run. I can’t find what it was on my 10.6 run but probably marginally better. I think I will crack I tot the 5’s for 100-200 this year.
do you know what you run stage 2 without the meth?

any predictions on what turbos will do for you? maybe from 10.6s to 10.3s?
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Thats very slow for Stage 2 ... the problem ist the CPC. So your Tuner dont have the skills.
Stage 2 have to run high 5 100-200
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Nice! But I still stand by my original comments.
You cant stand whereever you want but that shows only you have no plan about tuning.
Old 01-02-2020, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
6.95s for stage 2 with meth

would you consider ordering a $2k cpc replacement? otherwise... you are looking at only 1s (12.5%) improvement over stock
You dont understand whats the CPC and how they comunicate with the other devices, You cant only do CPC and think now you can adapt you ECU and everything run how it should. Its a complex process where you have to adapt all ecu, tcu and cpc on the same line. You cant only do 1 device because the other one will block.
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You dont understand whats the CPC and how they comunicate with the other devices, You cant only do CPC and think now you can adapt you ECU and everything run how it should. Its a complex process where you have to adapt all ecu, tcu and cpc on the same line. You cant only do 1 device because the other one will block.
I know that stage 1 + stage 2 ECU tunes are easy and all over the place. CPC replacements with torque limits removed are coming out.

I'd be curious to hear what tuner besides GAD is offering a TCU flash. Has anybody confirmed that there are also torque limits in TCU?

That would mean to get true stage 2 performance, you need 3 flashes: ECU, TCU, and CPC. Ouch!
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You cant stand whereever you want but that shows only you have no plan about tuning.
Lol, bro...my tuning plans are well beyond the dark ages of tuning this platform
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That would mean to get true stage 2 performance, you need 3 flashes: ECU, TCU, and CPC. Ouch!
Yes, you got it finnaly
Stage 1 also the same. Without CPC you get less power.
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788hp tuned e63s, 6.66s 100-200... not very good
Old 01-23-2020, 01:21 AM
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788hp tuned e63s, 6.66s 100-200... not very good
Thats the CPC
On dyno big numbers and on street slow.
6.7 its about 700hp +-
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2x upgraded high pressure pumps
1x Bosch spec high flow filter
1x Bluetooth ethanol content analyzer with mobile app
upgraded fuel lines
Cost of the kit is $3500

https://www.facebook.com/spoolauto/

I would message them, there website does not show it. I am trying to get word if E85 has been done on M177 yet.

expect labor quotes in ballpark of 2-6 hours

jerry from eurocharged is working on the tune. it sounds like we're limited by trans + cpc, as usual

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Look the diference with CPC and ECU Tune
Stock hardware

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Originally Posted by MrkiC63
Look the diference with CPC and ECU Tune
Stock hardware

that about lines up with the 5.9s 100-200 times i’ve seen with stage 2 tune + downpipes + cpc flash

i wish i had better results to report on the cpc tune

i just have no clue how they are calculating/bypassing the digital signature. it’s very impressive.

with that dragy slip, do they say how much they paid for ecu + cpc tune? i am guessing $5k. i doubt the tcu was tuned as well.
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i could be confused but the current leaderboard shows this:

stock = 10.73s @ 128mph

a.rosto - 2019 e63s - 10.02s @ 140mph (GAD + ?)
skywalker - 2018 e63s 10.14s @ 138mph (renntech germany + turbos + ?)
rafa e63s - 2018 e63s - 10.22s @ 136mph (renntech germany + turbos + 102)

those stock times seem low, car and driver quotes 11.1s @ 126mph
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Whats a realistic stock 60-130 at sea level? high 8s?
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Whats a realistic stock 60-130 at sea level? high 8s?
Mid-high 8s depending on 91/93 and elevation.

Eurocharged Stage 2 + catless downpipes and intakes my car does 7.2 60-130 on 93.
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Whats a realistic stock 60-130 at sea level? high 8s?
I ran 8.88-9.65 stock 60-130. The mid 9s were in 93-100 degree weather
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Mid-high 8s depending on 91/93 and elevation.

Eurocharged Stage 2 + catless downpipes and intakes my car does 7.2 60-130 on 93.
Man... aren't you worried about the transmission handling the extra power of a Stage 2 build? That's what's stopping me from going the upgrade route with mine.
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Man... aren't you worried about the transmission handling the extra power of a Stage 2 build? That's what's stopping me from going the upgrade route with mine.
Not really. The 9G can handle it, I'm also not launching it at 3500+ RPM at every stop light lol. Take care of your cars, and they will take care of you...

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