F90 M5 leases are going for $1,250/mo
07-02-2019, 12:10 PM
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Supply and demand- even the smallest of remote BMW dealers cant move the M5's. Its a production issue along with a BMW residual issue. They used to have 61% when the 18's came out but then shortly after killed that on the 19's. Dealers dont own their inventories and pay curtailments on the flooring after a certain time frame; essentially writing the cars down. Want a super blow out deal? Find the oldest M5 and grind it out.
The largest BMW store in the USA has over 20 F90's on the ground while the largest Benz store has 2 E63S's (yes 2).
07-02-2019, 12:11 PM
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> The largest BMW store in the USA has over 20 F90's on the ground while the largest Benz store has 2 E63S's (yes 2).
Here's a piggyback question off of that... I don't know if we have the numbers to answer it (you might)
How many M5s sell a year versus how many E63s sell a year? That would be pretty telling.
Here's a piggyback question off of that... I don't know if we have the numbers to answer it (you might)
How many M5s sell a year versus how many E63s sell a year? That would be pretty telling.
07-02-2019, 12:13 PM
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> The largest BMW store in the USA has over 20 F90's on the ground while the largest Benz store has 2 E63S's (yes 2).
Here's a piggyback question off of that... I don't know if we have the numbers to answer it (you might)
How many M5s sell a year versus how many E63s sell a year? That would be pretty telling.
Here's a piggyback question off of that... I don't know if we have the numbers to answer it (you might)
How many M5s sell a year versus how many E63s sell a year? That would be pretty telling.
The E63S is longer in the tooth coming out in the latter part of 2017 after EPA delays while the M5 came out in Q2 of 2018. But sales doesnt exactly equate to production; units on the ground will show you a better idea of whats sitting and the F90 might indeed have more sales but it definitely has more units sitting.
07-02-2019, 01:01 PM
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Too many
also old numbers might not mean a lot as far as number of cars sold , as the E63 changed into AWD before the M5
In our area , Pittsburgh, M5 were bad sellers considering weather and dealers hated having them
with this generation F90 being awd, they are selling around 5-6 x more cars as compared to F10
and probably the same might apply to multiple other area where winter driving require AWD
but agree with Vic , that there are a lot more M5C available on lots and a lot of bargains to be had soon
probably BMW will add lease rebate and increase RV like they did with 18 M5 to move them
In our area , Pittsburgh, M5 were bad sellers considering weather and dealers hated having them
with this generation F90 being awd, they are selling around 5-6 x more cars as compared to F10
and probably the same might apply to multiple other area where winter driving require AWD
but agree with Vic , that there are a lot more M5C available on lots and a lot of bargains to be had soon
probably BMW will add lease rebate and increase RV like they did with 18 M5 to move them
07-02-2019, 01:23 PM
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No idea, someone can google the right source Im sure.
The E63S is longer in the tooth coming out in the latter part of 2017 after EPA delays while the M5 came out in Q2 of 2018. But sales doesnt exactly equate to production; units on the ground will show you a better idea of whats sitting and the F90 might indeed have more sales but it definitely has more units sitting.
The E63S is longer in the tooth coming out in the latter part of 2017 after EPA delays while the M5 came out in Q2 of 2018. But sales doesnt exactly equate to production; units on the ground will show you a better idea of whats sitting and the F90 might indeed have more sales but it definitely has more units sitting.
Changing between 61% residual to 51% residual then to 58% residual sounds like a bunch of dudes in corporate boardrooms arguing with each other on who is right. Why drop it to 51% at all if you knew when sales dropped, you'd just raise it?
The bottom line seems to be the M5 is the easier car to get (especially in the configuration you want) and it'll be at least 20-30% cheaper depending on how great of a deal you get.
I am probably stupid to question this but... why is it this way? M5 made too many units, flooded the market, now they need to discount them. Great. Why isn't Mercedes doing the same for this thing?
The only way my imagination processes the possibility of "$1,250/mo for an E63s" is if I take a big hit from a crack pipe, yet it is reality for BMW...
