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Old Mar 12, 2020 | 01:39 AM
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JB4. I would be curious to see logs to determine what is happening with your car. My IC pumps failure would have been impossible to know without logging. I was running 10.9-11.0 1/4 mile but the IATs were very high. The minute I got the pumps working properly I ran 10.6-10.7 that same day. All they did was hook the car into XENTRY and found the issue quick. I guess air got into my system and pumps were way down on voltage.
i’m starting to sound like the brokest most cheap frugal ****er on the forum but $800+ all in for a JB4 for OBD-II logging is expensive

we’ve all heard this before but:

i’m gonna do some logging with my $15 OBD-II -> USB device

can you send me some example jb4 logs you did? i’ll track back what PIDs I need to log
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Old Mar 12, 2020 | 03:58 AM
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This piggy back **** was good at the time were it was not possible to write ECU.
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
i’m starting to sound like the brokest most cheap frugal ****er on the forum but $800+ all in for a JB4 for OBD-II logging is expensive

we’ve all heard this before but:

i’m gonna do some logging with my $15 OBD-II -> USB device

can you send me some example jb4 logs you did? i’ll track back what PIDs I need to log
I didn’t recommend JB4 for just logging I was just telling you what I have. There are some cheap alternatives to log.
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Old Mar 12, 2020 | 08:39 PM
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I didn’t recommend JB4 for just logging I was just telling you what I have. There are some cheap alternatives to log.
what alternative logger do you recommend and can you paste a sample of the logs you gave your tuner from your jb4?
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 11:55 AM
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car trans 100 degrees launch control **** itself yet again possibly as car was hot so no launch

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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 12:19 PM
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car trans 100 degrees launch control **** itself yet again possibly as car was hot so no launch control



On a better note my Tuner mailed me this morning they have cracked the CPC




nice! how much do they charge?
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 01:01 PM
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Didn't ask

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Didn't ask! They are good guys I'm guessing this time as already paid for limiter removal will be minimal if anything! i will ask Monday!
message me when you get a good price, i’d love to be a referral
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
message me when you get a good price, i’d love to be a referral
👍 will do! Have a vid when last on there dyno but it doesn’t won’t to download on here🤷‍♂️
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👍 will do! Have a vid when last on there dyno but it doesn’t won’t to download on here🤷‍♂️
i’m told cpcng flash doesn’t really show on dyno because it’s gears 1-3 and you dyno in 5th

needs to be 0-60mph or quarter mile or 60-130mph pull (or 100-200kmh pull)
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i’m told cpcng flash doesn’t really show on dyno because it’s gears 1-3 and you dyno in 5th

needs to be 0-60mph or quarter mile or 60-130mph pull (or 100-200kmh pull)
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took my car to the dealer because i thought there was a cpc_ng flash recall, they told me "your car is status R, we can't even look at it", so i took it upon myself to get latest numbers in xentry

2020-03-14 latest xentry online w213 e63s amg software numbers ECU + TCU + CPC_NG

cpc_ng (control unit powertrain hw # 0009010403)
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0009028549 - application
0009033322 - calibration
0009049200 - bootloader

ecu (med1775 hardware # 1779019900)
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1779020301 - application
1779035501 - calibration
1779040100 - bootloader

tcu (vgsnag3 hardware # 0009015000)
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? - application
0009023349 - calibration
? - bootloader

and yes, in my CPC_NG is a stored code that i have the exhaust flap problem
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Old Mar 19, 2020 | 07:34 AM
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Cpc

Seems some blager called my tuners from USA on the ponce after I put post up that they cracked CPC! Wonder who that was 🤔🤡
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
****ing insane lol

CPC or no CPC, that's... **** poor performance. The worst part is, I can repeat it!!!!

Honestly, I do not think it is the tune's fault or anything like that. My car is noticeably faster tuned than stock. My car *feels* faster than 11.6s quarter mile but... apparently it isn't? lol

I also ran a 9.04s 60-130 which is *3* seconds slower than an F90 M5 with boltons + tune + E30. ****ing embarrassing. Literally the same level of performance from a 2013 stock M5 (which you can buy used for $40k easily) and even then it's a slow run.

I couldn't launch because that piece of **** race start kept giving me error messages so I just mashed it. 3.6s-4.25s seems to be my 0-60 range, which is ****ing terrible lol

DA reads 1253ft and it was 75º out. The car was getting noticably slower pull after pull and it did that like... exhaust flap backpressure thing (which I'm still not sure isn't just straight up knock lol) once where it pulls all power mid-run.



I have no doubt this would be a 12s car without a tune, which is ****ing hilarious when magazines say this car runs 11.1s stock...

I wish I could say "I suck, I'm the driver" but I literally just put the thing in Race mode, floored it, and went down a straight line...
You LOL a lot don't you?
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You LOL a lot don't you?
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You LOL a lot don't you?
yeah, i lol when my $120k car with a tune is slower than a $60k mustang
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Seems some blager called my tuners from USA on the ponce after I put post up that they cracked CPC! Wonder who that was 🤔🤡
what does blager mean and why does it sound derogatory lol?

yes, i asked your tune on facebook for a price on CPC_NG tune

i don't get why that's a secret or clown face emoji worthy
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Have you got this sorted yet? I’m going to get my car ready this weekend and try to hit 10.5. New plugs, new filters, fill up my WMI, and will use some race fuel. Weather is so cool car should react good.

Ran a 10.7 last weekend on 93, stage 2 tune only, and no meth injection.
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My car stock did 11.2@ 125 mph
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Muffin,

Have you got this sorted yet? I’m going to get my car ready this weekend and try to hit 10.5. New plugs, new filters, fill up my WMI, and will use some race fuel. Weather is so cool car should react good.

Ran a 10.7 last weekend on 93, stage 2 tune only, and no meth injection.
what was your 0-60 and what was your trap speed?

you never sent me any jb4 logs, however

i found some m177 c63s jb4 logs

Code:
afr
afr2

avg_ign
ign_1

boost
boost2
ecu_psi
target

clock

fp_h

iat

mph
rpm

pedal
throttle

trims
trims2

waterf
this is what they log, right? you can confirm by checking either some of the graphs you have or some CSVs
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Originally Posted by apsuard
Muffin,

Have you got this sorted yet? I’m going to get my car ready this weekend and try to hit 10.5. New plugs, new filters, fill up my WMI, and will use some race fuel. Weather is so cool car should react good.

Ran a 10.7 last weekend on 93, stage 2 tune only, and no meth injection.
you need downpipes to run a stage 2 tune pipe, right?

what plugs are you going with? did your tuner tell you to go with a colder plug? how many miles on your stock plugs before you replaced?
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
what was your 0-60 and what was your trap speed?

you never sent me any jb4 logs, however

i found some m177 c63s jb4 logs


Code:
afr
afr2

avg_ign
ign_1

boost
boost2
ecu_psi
target

clock

fp_h

iat

mph
rpm

pedal
throttle

trims
trims2

waterf

this is what they log, right? you can confirm by checking either some of the graphs you have or some CSVs
i has to reset my JB4 so all my logs from last year got deleted. I will have some from this weekend and next when I do some pulls. I can send them over.

0-60 at 2.8-2.9. Trap on my 10.7 was 126-127. Hoping to hit 130 trap next weekend
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
you need downpipes to run a stage 2 tune pipe, right?

what plugs are you going with? did your tuner tell you to go with a colder plug? how many miles on your stock plugs before you replaced?
Message me your email and I will send you at least the log from my 10.7 and maybe I can send a few more this weekend.

i run stock plugs and stock gap. Replace them every year. Car had 17k miles when I purchased and had new plugs installed when I bought it, now at 25k and having new plugs installed today. DME recommended stock plugs and stock gap and I have never once had a misfire
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Originally Posted by apsuard
i has to reset my JB4 so all my logs from last year got deleted. I will have some from this weekend and next when I do some pulls. I can send them over.

0-60 at 2.8-2.9. Trap on my 10.7 was 126-127. Hoping to hit 130 trap next weekend
Just curious where you are making these runs. Aren't you in Mpls as well? I still have snows on the car.
Coincidently I was running 3.27 stock on our Sottozeros Thought that wasn't terrible on snow tires
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Just curious where you are making these runs. Aren't you in Mpls as well? I still have snows on the car.
Coincidently I was running 3.27 stock on our Sottozeros Thought that wasn't terrible on snow tires
My in laws live a little outside the metro and I found a perfect road for 1/4 mile passes near them. Pretty flat and is deserted.

3.27 is solid! My 0-60 on my 1/4 mile run last weekend was 2.97 so not great but I also have Sottozero Serie II on right now. I’m usually in 2.8 range with my PS4S.
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