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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 12:59 AM
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Ready to laugh? 2018 W213 E63S AMG + Tune = 11.6s @ 122mph 1/4 mile

****ing insane lol

CPC or no CPC, that's... **** poor performance. The worst part is, I can repeat it!!!!

Honestly, I do not think it is the tune's fault or anything like that. My car is noticeably faster tuned than stock. My car *feels* faster than 11.6s quarter mile but... apparently it isn't? lol

I also ran a 9.04s 60-130 which is *3* seconds slower than an F90 M5 with boltons + tune + E30. ****ing embarrassing. Literally the same level of performance from a 2013 stock M5 (which you can buy used for $40k easily) and even then it's a slow run.

I couldn't launch because that piece of **** race start kept giving me error messages so I just mashed it. 3.6s-4.25s seems to be my 0-60 range, which is ****ing terrible lol

DA reads 1253ft and it was 75º out. The car was getting noticably slower pull after pull and it did that like... exhaust flap backpressure thing (which I'm still not sure isn't just straight up knock lol) once where it pulls all power mid-run.



I have no doubt this would be a 12s car without a tune, which is ****ing hilarious when magazines say this car runs 11.1s stock...

I wish I could say "I suck, I'm the driver" but I literally just put the thing in Race mode, floored it, and went down a straight line...

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
****ing insane lol

CPC or no CPC, that's... **** poor performance. The worst part is, I can repeat it!!!!

Honestly, I do not think it is the tune's fault or anything like that. My car is noticeably faster tuned than stock. My car *feels* faster than 11.6s quarter mile but... apparently it isn't? lol

I also ran a 9.04s 60-130 which is *3* seconds slower than an F90 M5 with boltons + tune + E30. ****ing embarrassing. Literally the same level of performance from a 2013 stock M5 (which you can buy used for $40k easily) and even then it's a slow run.

I couldn't launch because that piece of **** race start kept giving me error messages so I just mashed it. 3.6s-4.25s seems to be my 0-60 range, which is ****ing terrible lol

DA reads 1253ft and it was 75º out. The car was getting noticably slower pull after pull and it did that like... exhaust flap backpressure thing (which I'm still not sure isn't just straight up knock lol) once where it pulls all power mid-run.



I have no doubt this would be a 12s car without a tune, which is ****ing hilarious when magazines say this car runs 11.1s stock...

I wish I could say "I suck, I'm the driver" but I literally just put the thing in Race mode, floored it, and went down a straight line...
What fuel are you using?
Tuned cars are much more sensitive to lower rating (91) then stock.
Anyway, something is wrong with your car, who's ECU do you have?
My Titanic size S63 did a 1/4 mile in 10.9 with 131 mph trap.
Granted, I have turbo upgrade from Renntech and used 93 octane.
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 09:28 AM
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i have a 2018 E63S Estate, and during 95F weather at a track, i was able to easily run 11.6 (pure stock, no tune). in cold weather, i am sure i could get down to 11.2 (based on the drag race results the car records between warm and cold weather). i also now have a Renntech tune, so think it will be even faster, if i can get to a track soon
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 09:57 AM
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i have a 2018 E63S Estate, and during 95F weather at a track, i was able to easily run 11.6 (pure stock, no tune). in cold weather, i am sure i could get down to 11.2 (based on the drag race results the car records between warm and cold weather). i also now have a Renntech tune, so think it will be even faster, if i can get to a track soon
11.6s is bad. this car is supposed to run 11.1s stock

right? or am i wrong?
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by absent
What fuel are you using?
Tuned cars are much more sensitive to lower rating (91) then stock.
Anyway, something is wrong with your car, who's ECU do you have?
My Titanic size S63 did a 1/4 mile in 10.9 with 131 mph trap.
Granted, I have turbo upgrade from Renntech and used 93 octane.
US 93 octane (from shell or exxon usually)
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
11.6s is bad. this car is supposed to run 11.1s stock

right? or am i wrong?
Yeah, even this ****** got 11.2 from the sedan...


Good luck trouble-shooting.
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> In our testing, the E63 S went from zero to 60 mph in a mere 3.0 seconds and ripped up the quarter-mile in 11.1 seconds at 126 mph.

I 0-60'd 3.8s without launch control. Say I get a hypothetical perfect launch and get a 3.2s. 0.6s difference. 11.6s - 0.6s bad launch difference = 11.0s

I mean... I guess that's good. The same time magazines get stock, with a tune. It basically means that without a tune this would be a $120k car that runs 12s lol

I should have got that F90 M5 I had money down on and pulled out of but that shifter looks like a giant ***** and would get in the way when ronin sucks me off while cruising down the highway
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 10:40 AM
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Haven't done a full quarter mine with the track pace thingy running but have done a couple of 0 to 60 runs. Seems in my car that 3.1 to 3.3 seconds is pretty much what gets reported. On the street so some are a bit up hill, some a bit down hill.

So maybe your car is de-tuned somehow?
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Haven't done a full quarter mine with the track pace thingy running but have done a couple of 0 to 60 runs. Seems in my car that 3.1 to 3.3 seconds is pretty much what gets reported. On the street so some are a bit up hill, some a bit down hill.

So maybe your car is de-tuned somehow?
what conditions do you get 3.1s-3.3s in? is it colder than where I am at / maybe with a better DA?

what OBD-II logging can i do to see what the heck is wrong with my car? fuel trims, boost, all of that fun stuff
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 12:37 PM
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Temps in San Diego, generally mid 60s to mid 70s, typical asphalt roads. Small sample size as I've only done the track pace thing a couple of times.

Haven't even done that many race starts as I'm more in to fun in the curves.

But just putting the info out there. 3.3 s seems to be a pretty well reported value for the E63s and there's going to be some standard deviation around that. Maybe 3.6 is just what your car does.
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 02:05 PM
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ran my stock 2019 e63s last August. My first time ever at 1/4 mile track and ran between 11.1-11.3 depending on launch. No mods, daily driver and it was about 70-75 degrees in NY. Not sure how your tuned car can be slower
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Old Mar 7, 2020 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
what conditions do you get 3.1s-3.3s in? is it colder than where I am at / maybe with a better DA?

what OBD-II logging can i do to see what the heck is wrong with my car? fuel trims, boost, all of that fun stuff

Something is wrong with your car or maybe just bad gas. I have multiple (at least 40 plus) runs on my completely stock MY19 at 3 secs flat to 3.25 and 1/8th mile times from 7.05-7.15- some posted on Dragy's leaderboard. These times are completely repeatable on non-prepped asphalt on 93 octane pump gas --not only over different days but 4 to 5 back to back runs--temps between 60-80 plus degrees. All that said, last year after having the car for about a month or two, out of the blue, I had a couple of 0-60 runs between 3.55-3.68. I started to worry that my engine was losing power--thought about it and realized I filled up the tank at a real ratty looking Sunoco station about 70 miles or so from my home in a pretty beat up skanky looking town a day or two before these slow runs. Quickly ran through the tank and filled up at my local Mobil station and all was back to normal and continues to be since. Still running sub 3.2 0-60 times and below 7.15 1/8th mile runs. Temps around 60 degrees and low humidity net marginally better times but all runs are pretty consistently good. Just bought a MY18 GLC63 (non-S) totally stock ran back to back sub 3.7 sec 0-60'sand a 12 sec flat 1/4 mile (some also posted on Dragy). Wanna race?? All kidding aside try new gas--might be as simple as that-Hopefully!!

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Something is wrong with your car or maybe just bad gas. I have multiple (at least 40 plus) runs on my completely stock MY19 at 3 secs flat to 3.25 and 1/8th mile times from 7.05-7.15- some posted on Dragy's leaderboard. These times are completely repeatable on non-prepped asphalt on 93 octane pump gas --not only over different days but 4 to 5 back to back runs--temps between 60-80 plus degrees. All that said, last year after having the car for about a month or two, out of the blue, I had a couple of 0-60 runs between 3.55-3.68. I started to worry that my engine was losing power--thought about it and realized I filled up the tank at a real ratty looking Sunoco station about 70 miles or so from my home in a pretty beat up skanky looking town a day or two before these slow runs. Quickly ran through the tank and filled up at my local Mobil station and all was back to normal and continues to be since. Still running sub 2.2 0-60 times and below 7.15 1/8th mile runs. Temps around 60 degrees and low humidity net marginally better times but all runs are pretty consistently good. Just bought a MY18 GLC63 (non-S) totally stock ran back to back sub 3.7 sec 0-60'sand a 12 sec flat 1/4 mile (some also posted on Dragy). Wanna race?? All kidding aside try new gas--might be as simple as that-Hopefully!!
you mean sub 3.2.....
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Those are ok numbers without launch control. Launch control makes a big difference like nearly a half a second in the quarter mile.
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you mean sub 3.2.....
Yes, sorry 2.2 was a typo (corrected above)-- E63s runs sub 3.2s regularly. Also, as to MuffinFlavored's original post--getting a good run without launch control is hard--just mashing the accelerator from a stop will produce about .3 to .5 of a sec 0-60 slower time--haven't run a full 1/4 mile not using launch control. Also, as long as my engine temp is high enough (out of the blue on the temp gauge) my launch control always functions without a hitch--can't say the same for the F90 M5 which is very temperamental. Friend with a fairly new M5 has been embarrassed a number of times during a stoplight impromptu drag race--M5's launch control either won't engage or hang on long enough before letting off the brake without cutting out.

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Yeah, even this ****** got 11.2 from the sedan...

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Good luck trouble-shooting.
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Those are ok numbers without launch control. Launch control makes a big difference like nearly a half a second in the quarter mile.
even for a car with a tune?
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Muffin,

My car **** the bed late last summer when I was getting 3.8 0-60 and 11.6 1/4 mile. It ended up that I had a boost leak after WMI injection.

Something has to be wrong. My car launches every time consistently with LC and it is always below 3 seconds.

I also had an issue with 3 IC pumps not working properly early in the summer and that was costing me 0.4 second in 1/4 mile and it didn’t throw any codes. My IATS were threw the roof so I knew something was wrong.

You have to log to make sure the car is running properly. I knew I had a boost leak because my boost was only hitting 14-16 lbs. Then I knew I had an issue with my IC pumps because my IATs were over 180 after hard pulls. Important to log because neither issue I had threw a code.
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11.5 sounds good to me lol. The best I can get out of my e450 wagon is 13.5. My S550 does a consistent 13.2. Does not matter anyhow. At the track it’s jyst about all Tesla’s at this point and even if I had my e63 wagon they would still be kicking my Butt running in the 10s.
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Muffin,

My car **** the bed late last summer when I was getting 3.8 0-60 and 11.6 1/4 mile. It ended up that I had a boost leak after WMI injection.

Something has to be wrong. My car launches every time consistently with LC and it is always below 3 seconds.

I also had an issue with 3 IC pumps not working properly early in the summer and that was costing me 0.4 second in 1/4 mile and it didn’t throw any codes. My IATS were threw the roof so I knew something was wrong.

You have to log to make sure the car is running properly. I knew I had a boost leak because my boost was only hitting 14-16 lbs. Then I knew I had an issue with my IC pumps because my IATs were over 180 after hard pulls. Important to log because neither issue I had threw a code.
what tool do you use to log?
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
what tool do you use to log?
JB4. I would be curious to see logs to determine what is happening with your car. My IC pumps failure would have been impossible to know without logging. I was running 10.9-11.0 1/4 mile but the IATs were very high. The minute I got the pumps working properly I ran 10.6-10.7 that same day. All they did was hook the car into XENTRY and found the issue quick. I guess air got into my system and pumps were way down on voltage.
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