Res Ipsa

Pretty impressed (and surprised). She put down 594/636. Now, for that tune...

ronin amg

Before you drop your money on a tune look into the peddlebox

https://www.pedalbox.com/en/mercedes.../pedalbox.html

My 2018 e63s wagon is tuned and my 2019 AMG GLC 63s coupe with just the peddlebox feels exactly the same due to the remapped throttle response ..
I won't be tuning my GLC now.

GilsE63s

Wow, so with let’s say 15% powertrain losses that’s around 650 hp and 750 tq...awesome!

MrkiC63

pedal box tuning compare to ecu tuning? are you 100% right in your head??? wazup with you old men, i think you forgot your pills.

TugboatBill

He has more experience that you'll ever have. Do they have pills that makes one smarter? If so you may want to look into some.

MuffinFlavored

lol this made me blink too...
you thought i was bad for crying about $7,000 in tunes
now we are down to $229 for a plugin that only "changes" it to feel faster, doesn't actually make it any faster lol

MuffinFlavored

was this dyno run done in dyno mode? i'm guessing yes. can you tell how to get to that feature in the menu?

BC-2

To be fair, it is strange to compare the pedal box to an ECU tune. Pedal box just changes the throttle position in relation to the actual pedal position (no actual performance improvement) where as an ECU tune actually increases HP and torque which will improve acceleration. Personally, I don't like devices like the pedal box because I prefer a linear throttle input. So if I press the throttle pedal 25%, I want 25% throttle, not 50% or whatever the pedal box is set to. If I want 50% throttle, I'll just press the gas pedal 50%.

ronin amg

I'm not sure you've had one on a E63s before but if you did please tell me what your settings were because the throttle "feel" on my cars are exactly the same.
Throttle input is a key factor in these ECU tunes, "feel" that you got something for your money.
Yes you don't get extra power but you will "feel" as though you did and after all that's what it's all about..

The best bang for the buck you can "feel" without needing a stopwatch to measure the tenths of a second 0-60 gains you can not "feel".

BC-2

Nope, definitely would not spend money on one for my car after plenty of experience with them in other peoples cars. This is now very common from the factory on a lot of "lower powered" cars. Like I said, if I want 50% throttle, I'll just press the gas pedal 50%. The really annoying thing about these is that because they put the throttle in an exponential curve, the throttle "feel" in the later half (50% to 100%) is flat because it used the the otherwise % in the lower half to make it "feel" like you have more power. It's like putting a sticker over your stereo volume so that 25% volume is actually 50% volume. Sure, your stereo "sounds" louder but nothing has actually changed. With an actual ECU tune, it's like putting an amp on your stereo which actually makes the sound system louder. I'm glad you like it but it's not for me.

ronin amg

Could be that the cars you drove [not e63s] were not adjusted correctly. The exact same "feel" is what switching from comfort to sport, sport + and race provide from the factory but with a +.
Again in my opinion the best bang for the buck if you want to "feel" improvements and not void your drivetrain warrantee..

sieglo

“These go to 11.”

sieglo

“These go to 11.”

Res Ipsa

Yes, it was. You have to turn the car on (not the engine). Then you use the left scroll button on the steering wheel to open the odometer page; from there, there is a way to scroll to service mode, and you select "dynamometer mode".

DriveAMG

why don’t you try it? Pedal boxes make a night and day difference to how the car drives. Throttle response can be dialled in to exactly how you prefer/like it. They do in fact allow access to horsepower. They remove the lag that was built in.

kponti

I cannot stop laughing at the pause and response at the end!

kponti

You were doing so well until that. I have used the pedal-boxes on AMGs for a few years now. They do not remove the lag, they mask it until your ECU finds a way around it usually after a few hundred miles. Then the lag comes back and usually worse than stock

PS: In all fairness, an ecu reset gets it working well again