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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 08:56 AM
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Carbon Ceramic Brakes being outlawed

My dealer just told me CCBs are no longer available from Mercedes in the US because they are being outlawed. Anyone hearing anything about this?
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 09:09 AM
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My dealer just told me CCBs are no longer available from Mercedes in the US because they are being outlawed. Anyone hearing anything about this?
This is not April 1st yet......
I've heard a lot of BS from dealers over the years but this one takes the cake.
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This is not April 1st yet......
I've heard a lot of BS from dealers over the years but this one takes the cake.
LOL, hurry up and configure your car with CCB's before it's too late!
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 09:49 AM
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My dealer just told me CCBs are no longer available from Mercedes in the US because they are being outlawed. Anyone hearing anything about this?
I translate when he told you to:
"We don't want to go through the ordering hassle, just buy something we have in stock."
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 09:52 AM
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I already ordered - car being built now. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 09:53 AM
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I already ordered - car being built now. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Did you reward that azzclown by shopping his store or go somewhere else? Hopefully the latter.
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My dealer just told me CCBs are no longer available from Mercedes in the US because they are being outlawed. Anyone hearing anything about this?
but we are sequestering carbon by making them, isn't that trendy?
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I already ordered - car being built now. 🤷🏻‍♂️
My favorite thing is when people ask the forum to verify something i.e. "Hey should I buy this car?" and then they've already done the thing and it's too late. Bro you got lied to and then you gave that stealership money. Congrats. Cancel your order man.

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My favorite thing is when people ask the forum to verify something i.e. "Hey should I buy this car?" and then they've already done the thing and it's too late. Bro you got lied to and then you gave that stealership money. Congrats. Cancel your order man.
Yeah I was really hoping he went elsewhere too.
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It is true that the Camaro SS and ZL-1 are now banned from sale in Wa and Ca because of brake pad regulations. Seems the amount of copper in their high performance pads is too high. Chevy is looking for a fix so they can sell 2022 models in those states.
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This is apparently the same issue with AMG CCBs.
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My favorite thing is when people ask the forum to verify something i.e. "Hey should I buy this car?" and then they've already done the thing and it's too late. Bro you got lied to and then you gave that stealership money. Congrats. Cancel your order man.
I’ve got the CCBs on my car. The order is locked. Why would I change the order? Do your homework before spouting off about a dealer lying.

https://www.epa.gov/npdes/copper-free-brake-initiative

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I’ve got the CCBs on my car. The order is locked. Why would I change the order? Do your homework before spouting off about a dealer lying.

https://www.epa.gov/npdes/copper-free-brake-initiative
Kind Sir, dealers lie every 23 minutes....maybe even more(yes I made that up)...it's a known fact. Why do you become put off by someone claiming a dealer lies?
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 06:48 PM
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Much more likely that the Biden administration outlaws 8 cylinder engines.

At least for those of us who don’t work for the federal govt.
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Joe Biden owns a Corvette. I don't see him outlawing V8s.
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Joe Biden owns a Corvette. I don't see him outlawing V8s.
Right, but can he still get in and out of the thing LMAO!
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Kind Sir, dealers lie every 23 minutes....maybe even more(yes I made that up)...it's a known fact. Why do you become put off by someone claiming a dealer lies?
I started this thread to share information about CCBs. Go try and place an order for ceramic brakes on a car built in 2021. They are unavailable because of the copper content. Until they address the issue you can’t get them.


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I have a order in with CCB's to be built in February, sure hope there is no issues. Dealer hasn't mentioned anything.
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This article doesn't seem to think they are going away:
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-r...-Insights.html
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I’ve got the CCBs on my car. The order is locked. Why would I change the order? Do your homework before spouting off about a dealer lying.

https://www.epa.gov/npdes/copper-free-brake-initiative
Did you say any of that in your OP? No, you didn't. Not my fault you are a garbage communicator. You literally made a post about Carbon Ceramic Brakes and now this is about copper pads?
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I did see this Steve Lehto video about two Camaro models being banned in California due to their brake pads containing copper.


Googling around it seems that some ceramic brake pads do have fine copper wires embedded in them to help generate heat and improve friction.

Haven't seen anything about the Mercedes CCBs in searching, but maybe this dealer is basing the statement off this ban that is impacting the Camaros?
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I did see this Steve Lehto video about two Camaro models being banned in California due to their brake pads containing copper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-cdkQqdB9Q&t=281s

Googling around it seems that some ceramic brake pads do have fine copper wires embedded in them to help generate heat and improve friction.

Haven't seen anything about the Mercedes CCBs in searching, but maybe this dealer is basing the statement off this ban that is impacting the Camaros?
Interesting vid, thanx for posting Sad to hear some folks in Cali were draining oil without disposing of it
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As Steve points out in every 2nd or 3rd video, he's been a lawyer for 28 years and counting, so that would have been a long time ago. Hopefully the practice up in the LA area where he was going to school has been eliminated.

I've never seen such a thing here in CA in the North Country and there's really no need as every auto parts store has a recycle tank to drop off oil.
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