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Old Jun 2, 2021 | 10:05 AM
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cruise control shenanigans . . .

Just got back from a road trip and noticed a little issue with cruise control . . . I'm driving along on cc going about 90mph 'ish and all of a sudden car slows down significantly and locks in @ 40 mph (no traffic in sight). Sometimes it slows down to 50 mph, it varies . . . bottom line is, it locks in at a significantly lower speed without any intention on my part to do so. Anybody else have had that issue? Is there anything I'm missing?
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Old Jun 2, 2021 | 10:19 AM
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There's a setting where it will adjust cruise speed to match the current speed limit. I turned mine off. I noticed once when in heavy traffic @ approx 75mph the HUD suddenly showed the limit as 25MPH. As I was next to a semi with another behind me a sudden slow down could have ended my timeline quickly.
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Old Jun 2, 2021 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TugboatBill
There's a setting where it will adjust cruise speed to match the current speed limit. I turned mine off. I noticed once when in heavy traffic @ approx 75mph the HUD suddenly showed the limit as 25MPH. As I was next to a semi with another behind me a sudden slow down could have ended my timeline quickly.
I did not know about that! The search for that setting will now commence, thank you!
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Old Jun 2, 2021 | 10:57 AM
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It's seeing a speed limit sign on a side road, usually, and adjusting to that speed. You can turn it off. Also, if you immediately tap the gas it will return to the speed you had it set to.
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Old Jun 2, 2021 | 04:26 PM
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Definitely annoying. Didn’t know it could be turned off though.... I’ll have to check for that
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Yeah, there is a setting in there for speed limit adoption.

Saved my bacon a number of times during the European Delivery trip where there were frequent speed limit changes and often times when we didn't see the sign. With cameras everywhere we would have been nailed for sure many times instead of just once.

But on the highways in the US it can be really annoying when there are frontage roads within view of the camera. The worst was tooling along at 95 MPH in Texas where the speed limit was 85 MPH then having the car slam on the brakes and drop the programmed speed to 35 MPH or 40 MPH because of a frontage road parallel to the interstate.

Turned the feature off pretty quickly after that for the rest of the drive.
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Old Jun 2, 2021 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by E634Me
Yeah, there is a setting in there for speed limit adoption.

Saved my bacon a number of times during the European Delivery trip where there were frequent speed limit changes and often times when we didn't see the sign. With cameras everywhere we would have been nailed for sure many times instead of just once.

But on the highways in the US it can be really annoying when there are frontage roads within view of the camera. The worst was tooling along at 95 MPH in Texas where the speed limit was 85 MPH then having the car slam on the brakes and drop the programmed speed to 35 MPH or 40 MPH because of a frontage road parallel to the interstate.

Turned the feature off pretty quickly after that for the rest of the drive.
+1...it was a great help during my ED trip as well and generally no frontage road situations, but the one thing that tripped it were the small speed limit signs on the back of trucks indicating their legally allowed top speed. Every time I came up too close to one, it adopted 80 km/h just when I signaled to pass it. Here in the USA I also turned it off pretty much right away. We don't really have frontage roads around here, so generally it recognizes the correct speed limits, but nobody drives the speed limit anyway. One cool feature is that even if you turn this off, you can always manually adopt the current speed limit by pressing Resume while DISTRONIC is engaged. I use that to so set the initial speed and then increase it from there to the typical 10-20 mph over.
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Old Jun 2, 2021 | 09:05 PM
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been coming up empty handed in regards to how to turn that off. Don't really know what to search for . . . never mind, found it! Thanks for help tracking that option down!

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In the situation I mentioned above there was no frontage road. It may have interpreted something on the side of the semi I was next to, my attention was on the road and not what was written on it. Regardless, the concept is good but the implementation can be problematical.
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Just imagine, the EU had proposed to make Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA) a mandatory feature on cars sold in Europe. This system was supposed to act as a speed limitier and automatically reduce a vehicle's speed by limiting engine power, so not allowing somebody to drive faster than the speed limit. They reversed their plans, though, exactly because these systems are not foolproof when it comes to reading the speed limit signs. What's gonna be mandatory in Europe soon is the part of the system that warns the driver if they drive faster than the speed limit like the MB system already does if turned on. If you drive faster than the speed limit the speed limit sign in the instrument cluster blinks periodically. You can configure it to how many mph over the speed limit you want the warning or turn it off.
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Just imagine, the EU had proposed to make Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA) a mandatory feature on cars sold in Europe. This system was supposed to act as a speed limitier and automatically reduce a vehicle's speed by limiting engine power, so not allowing somebody to drive faster than the speed limit. They reversed their plans, though, exactly because these systems are not foolproof when it comes to reading the speed limit signs. What's gonna be mandatory in Europe soon is the part of the system that warns the driver if they drive faster than the speed limit like the MB system already does if turned on. If you drive faster than the speed limit the speed limit sign in the instrument cluster blinks periodically. You can configure it to how many mph over the speed limit you want the warning or turn it off.
So where are the "eyes" (camera) that read these signs? Can we cover them with tape so they can't see anything?
Just trying to figure how to avoid becoming automatically compliant with laws that will require the ISA. 'm guessing if your car has an ISA in it, they will require it's full use when it becomes law, so looking for a permanent work around - or are there tuners who can properly and permanently disable the software?
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So where are the "eyes" (camera) that read these signs? Can we cover them with tape so they can't see anything?
Just trying to figure how to avoid becoming automatically compliant with laws that will require the ISA. 'm guessing if your car has an ISA in it, they will require it's full use when it becomes law, so looking for a permanent work around - or are there tuners who can properly and permanently disable the software?
The stereo camera is in the windshield behind the rear view mirror, but they are used for other things, too, such as collision detection etc., so if you cover them up you'll get faults as they will detect if the view is obstructed. The one in the middle is the rain sensor if you are wondering. Cars w/o the driver assistance package only have a single camera. As far as speed limit recognition goes, it also works in conjunction with the navigation system. It doesn't just rely on the detected speed limit signs. If no signs are detected for a while it assumes the national prevailing speed limit for the current road you are driving on based on the map data. So not sure what that means for the proposed requirement in Europe. To fully function they would also have to make the navigation system standard on all cars. The navigation data is important not just for the prevailing speed limits, but also to process the detected speed limits and decide which one applies depending on the road you are driving on. For example frontage roads in the USA would be an issue otherwise as it might detect the lower speed limit of the frontage road while driving on the highway. With the help of the GPS position and the navigation data it can determine if you are driving on the frontage road or the adjacent highway and display the correct speed limit. Same goes for exit speed limits. It shouldn't pick up the lower speed limit of an exit, unless you are actually exiting.


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It's seeing a speed limit sign on a side road, usually, and adjusting to that speed. You can turn it off. Also, if you immediately tap the gas it will return to the speed you had it set to.
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