My 2022 Build
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AMG E63 Hammer Wagon. Alfa, Rover, Ferrari, Porsche.
Yeah that's a pretty nice spec, looks like just about everything other than CCB's and the HVAC ionizer thing. I just don't know about matte paint. I live in the real world (midwest) and will be driving the car in the winter a bit. Irks me thinking about potential repairs.
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My point is that you asked why MB doesn't offer PS4 A/S tires as a factory option, so I was offering an explanation. PS4 A/S tires weren't released until 2020, well after the time when MB engineers were specifying tires for the model (W213 E63 in this case), probably in the vicinity of 2016-2017, and negotiating OEM contracts to supply the tires. These contracts are typically for the lifespan of the model line and they're rarely altered, unless there's a supply or serious unforeseen performance issue. I suppose they could have added/updated tire options for the 2021 facelift, but it probably wasn't worth the effort for a relatively low production model.
Glad the tires are working out for you, and good to know they're quieter. No need to get hostile!
Glad the tires are working out for you, and good to know they're quieter. No need to get hostile!
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E63S Wagon , Ferrari Challenge Stradale, 69 Camaro, Aston Martin Vantage, 77 Bronco
Pretty close to my car, except mine has carbon interior trim and no soft close doors. Other than that, same as mine. I love the Magno paint.
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AMG E63 Hammer Wagon. Alfa, Rover, Ferrari, Porsche.
My point was that the factory options for 2021 included RFT tires as one of the tire/wheel combinations. I would think that MB and Michelin could have collaborated on an additional combination as well. If the tires weren't available in time for final production, then they could have been introduced later. As another request, it would be great if a custom tire selection option was available given how many members do not like any tire other than Michelin. Thanks.
Generally speaking, yeah it’d be nice if OEMs offered tire options. Sometimes you see high performance and all season options, but its rare from my experiences.
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Huh? Honestly not trying to be difficult, but what RFT tire options? Maybe I’m missing something, but after ordering 2 of these new and just checking the ordering guide again, I don't see any tire options at all?
Generally speaking, yeah it’d be nice if OEMs offered tire options. Sometimes you see high performance and all season options, but its rare from my experiences.
Generally speaking, yeah it’d be nice if OEMs offered tire options. Sometimes you see high performance and all season options, but its rare from my experiences.
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2019 E63S Estate
I found this listing in Sacramento on Friday. I was ready to drive up on Saturday to see it and possibly buy it if I could live with the colors. The exterior color I feel I could live with but I can't handle the yellow/grey interior. I am looking fro something a little more classic that I won't get tired of. The sales guy said they currently are asking $50k over MSRP. I told him that's absurd and they can keep it.
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[QUOTE=HBerman;8389119]
My 2021 wagon has the identical options and exterior color, but my interior is Black. The only thing that I've done to it is to deep-six the Michelin PS4 tires and mount Michelin PS4 A/S tires instead. Significantly improved the ride quality and the road noise. Not really understanding why MB doesn't offer these tires as a factory option.
I guess it's because it's really stupid putting all season tires on a high performance vehicle.
Even in cold Norway I will always stick to real summer tires during the summer and winter tires during the winter.
My 2021 wagon has the identical options and exterior color, but my interior is Black. The only thing that I've done to it is to deep-six the Michelin PS4 tires and mount Michelin PS4 A/S tires instead. Significantly improved the ride quality and the road noise. Not really understanding why MB doesn't offer these tires as a factory option.
Even in cold Norway I will always stick to real summer tires during the summer and winter tires during the winter.
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[QUOTE=78degrees;8389453]I do understand your point on performance summer tires. However, Michelin PS4 A/S tires, while having a bit less dry traction compared to the PS4, have superior wet traction and reasonable performance in light snow. For my region in the southern US, the amount of snow is usually less than 4" per season, but significant temps below 45 degrees for about 4 months on average. PA4 tires would be overkill here in NC, but the PS4 performs badly below 45 degrees especially in cold wet days, I also don't intend to track the car and the tires are speed rated "Y".
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****e build after ****e build. I go through every car every day. Very few people, especially dealers, know how to spec a car. Sad. Same experience with Porsche.
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W213 E53 | 992 C2 | G20 330i
I found this listing in Sacramento on Friday. I was ready to drive up on Saturday to see it and possibly buy it if I could live with the colors. The exterior color I feel I could live with but I can't handle the yellow/grey interior. I am looking fro something a little more classic that I won't get tired of. The sales guy said they currently are asking $50k over MSRP. I told him that's absurd and they can keep it.
Side note, this one also seems to have all of its options and no chip shortage credits!
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I'm familiar--beautiful area! Had a girlfriend in college from Roseville and when I still lived in the Bay, used to go flying up 50 to ski in South Tahoe and camp/hike on Fallen Leaf Lake in the summer! Would have loved to have the wagon for that trip!
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AMG E63 Hammer Wagon. Alfa, Rover, Ferrari, Porsche.
Looks like it. Silver exhaust tips. There were several of these scattered across various dealers on release of the 21, identical specs. I checked one out at my dealer, Dec2020.
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21 E63 Wagon
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E63S Wagon
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^^^^^Beautiful. This is exactly what i was looking for late last year. Even then it was slim pickin's . Luckily a found my second choice here locally.
