E63sCAD

I have the opportunity to pick up a set of 20" W212 E63s rims for my W213 E63s which I would use as my winter rims.

I found one post where this is discussed but it isn't clear exactly how to make it work properly...if at all. Anyone know if this could work? I'm not technically savvy enough to figure this out on my own (unfortunately).

bobblehead

I am not aware W212 E63S come with 20" factory wheels. Are you sure they are real or just replica ?

W212 E63S 19" setup:
F: 19 x 9 et 37 255/35
R: 19 x 9.5 et 52 285/30

E63sCAD

Sorry you're right I meant to say 19"! They're definitely OEM I know the person he used to have the old E63

E63sCAD

Also is there a way to make the set up you just describe work on the W213 E63? Is the offset all off? Would it require different tires and perhaps spacers? Thanks very much!

bobblehead

for the W212 tire setup, you may have to consider going 255/40/19 square. You need to keep the speedo variance to <3%. The 255/40/19 would be <= 1% deviation.

The front will have offset that is 6mm closer to the suspension components. The rear has no issue at all.

I would advice you to test fit the front to make sure.

In the past, I recalled there is one forum member did go with this W212 setup. I just cannot remember if that member used the suggested tire size though.

bobblehead

https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ls-winter.html

here you go. post #9. One guy did put the w212 19" on

E63sCAD

Thank you so much for all the info! Greatly appreciated!

I won't be able to test the rims until I have them / have bought them. I don't mind having a square setup and having my tire guy sort that out for me (not install but at least chose the right titres). Do you think that's too risky? Is 6mm offset more than recommended?

thanks again!

bobblehead

you should be ok. Your other safe alternative/solution is to put 3-5mm spacer to extend the wheel back outward.

https://4wheelspacers.com/shop/mercedes-benz/5mm-wheel-spacer-kit/

Important: since you are going square with the front and rear wheels have different offsets, it is crucial to mark the wheels front and back when you are swapping wheels on seasonal changeovers. Having the rear ones up front will rub against the suspension without a doubt. That’s why you can’t rotate them front to rear too (unless you choose to dismount all the tires off rims and then rotate them this way)

E63sCAD

Thanks again @bobblehead . Really appreciate all the info. Will discuss it with my local dealer and see if it makes any sense.

Interesting addendum: I had noticed in one of the forums the price that they quoted you for the OEM winter set at St Cath MB a while back. I called my dealer here in MTL and then called St Cath MB and both quoted me (with tax) $7500 for the set. Seems a little steep to me may be worth ordering from Germany.

bobblehead

Yeah. It has been 4 yrs since my quest for factory winter set. Adding the typical annual increase and this pandemic situation, I am not surprised at all that the dealers are asking that kind of $ today. There should be a lot more choices out there nowadays that the W213 E setup, it is a matter of you want the factory wheels or aftermarket wheels. The factory wheels can be resold easier down the road, IMO. They are BBS so the quality is certainly better.

Here is one example .... now. asking $4800 Cdn firmed. It's a tad too high. See if the seller will take $4500 (even though the ad says "firmed").

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-tires-rims/c...-98/1587646474



If you want to look for a used set, then check out kijiji and ebay. The risk associated for buying used would be the wear on the tires and you will have to examine the wheels for damages (bent, warped from potholes) before paying. I have seen used 19" set sells for $4000 Cdn or so in past year (in kijiji).

bobblehead

Here is what 19" winter set looks on mine

E63sCAD

Awesome. Thanks and I agree with OEM and quality. Usually I go down that road but seems like there's really only one OEM that'll fit this car...they're not particularly nice.

Do you have any recos for good quality at a reasonable price? There's so much out there I can't tell good for bad. I see imitation forged wheels all the time for super cheap (like $1300 for a set) and wonder to myself if im just inviting trouble. I have a baby so not looking to crack a rim in the middle of a winter drive!

E63sCAD

Actually seeing your photo I see they look pretty nice! Much better than I thought!

bobblehead

For aftermarket wheels, you will have to find the correct fitment (i.e. offsets that is as close to factory as possible). The first brand I would take a look at would be Vossen, their hybrid line (so called flow formed wheels) which is stronger and durable than other no name brands that are likely gravity cast wheels and made in China where the quality is a hit & miss (more of a miss, imo). If Vossen does make a set for our E63S, the cost would just be a bit cheaper than factory offering.

For a lot of forum members here, I think more than 50% opted to pay the price for the factory sets as they don't want to cheap out on an expensive car. Of course, it's each to their own. Therefore, you will have to decide your want & budget and then go from there.

eirp

The 19s from C63S coupe/cabrio fit perfectly. They are OEM forged, and have a cross spoke pattern (9-spoke) that works way better on a large touring wagon than the 20” cross spokes sold as an option with the e63. They’re hard to find but not impossible and when available can be had for $3-4k.

ZZtop

Hi, I hope to revive this thread. I recently bought a late 2019 E63S Wagon .. ride quality is harsh.. least to say. I will also be driving my kids back and forth and want something to ease that harshness. C63s rims are exactly the same as my 20s that I currently have. However, there is some serious difference between teh ETs and Js of the front tires.. Any input will be highly appreciated.

bobblehead

to lessen the harshness, all seasons will be a bit softer than summer high performance tires. there will be some trade offs going with all seasons, of course. You won't get the extra grips on dry roads when driven aggressively.

Ed99

Wow you find comfort still too harsh? I find comfort very comfort just right and I always like to ride on Sport or sport plus because I like the tighter suspension feeling. Maybe you can run 275/35/20 and 305/30/20 will help as it will give you more sidewalls.

ZZtop

Thanks for the advises. I really did like that 19 inch option and I wanted to explore more. I don`t mind the ride myself, but my kids and mostly my wife don`t feel the same way. My ultimate target is to be able to ride along with my wagon as daily

bobblehead

Do note the FL (MY21 onwards) are retuned on the suspension to make it less harsher.