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Old May 15, 2022 | 02:17 PM
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AMG E63 S Milage

Hi Guys,

I’m from the Netherlands and I want to buy a Mercedes Benz E63S AMG, with a mileage with 130.000km.

Is it safe to buy a AMG with this milage, they say all the services is done by MB.

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Old May 15, 2022 | 02:29 PM
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Just be prepared to have some pricey repairs as it aged.

mine is 4.5 yrs old with 86,000km and I had air suspension and ignition coils replaced. Very pricey. Overall, the engine and tranny seem to be without any issues thus far.
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Old May 15, 2022 | 02:40 PM
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Thank you for the fast reply.

I did a test drive yesterday, and it drove well.
No error messages seen, the air suspension worked great.
The intercooler has been replaced,
What do you think of the gearbox, how is the shift.

The services:

2021-03-25 Den Haag(Place)124.000KM
2021-02-24 Moordrecht(Place)104.000KM
2018-10-08Roeselare(Place)88.000KM
2018-05-18Roeselare(Place)53.000KM
2017-12-19Roeselare(Place)33.000KM
2017-10-13Roeselare(Place)16.000KM

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Old May 15, 2022 | 03:59 PM
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The tranny shifts fine in general, it may shift a bit more jerky per se in race and sports +.

at 130,000km, the tranny fluid should have been replaced by now. Also, at this mileage, the spark plugs and battery should be as well.

the one big unknown could be the electronic gremlins.
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Old May 15, 2022 | 04:04 PM
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There were a lot of recall campaigns on the 2017 and 2018. If that is the year you are considering, look for documentation they have all been completed. The most important one is the retrofit of protective screens over the intercoolers. One that a lot of people like is the retuning of the suspension response.
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Old May 15, 2022 | 04:49 PM
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Op said the previous owner serviced at dealer, so all service bulletins would have been done.

one added note, the e63 front suspension has an aggressive camber setup, my front tires had a bad inner tire which worn much faster the other sections of the tire. So, do check your tires for irregular wear often.

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Old May 15, 2022 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bobblehead
Just be prepared to have some pricey repairs as it aged.

mine is 4.5 yrs old with 86,000km and I had air suspension and ignition coils replaced. Very pricey. Overall, the engine and tranny seem to be without any issues thus far.
which part of the air suspension?
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Originally Posted by bobblehead
The tranny shifts fine in general, it may shift a bit more jerky per se in race and sports +.

at 130,000km, the tranny fluid should have been replaced by now. Also, at this mileage, the spark plugs and battery should be as well.

the one big unknown could be the electronic gremlins.
I don't think the tranny fluid is changed, is that a bad thing?
That the shift is more jerky?

I added some pictures,

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Old May 16, 2022 | 04:54 AM
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which part of the air suspension?
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Old May 16, 2022 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RajivK
I don't think the tranny fluid is changed, is that a bad thing?
That the shift is more jerky?

I added some pictures,
probably still within the tolerance limit, I guess. It would be best to change it right away if you buy the vehicle.

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Old May 16, 2022 | 05:04 AM
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Thank you guys, i'm going to pick up the car Wednesday 18th.
It's my first AMG, I hope not to much problems.

Is a fluid change a fluid change or do I need to go to a specialist?
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Old May 16, 2022 | 08:03 AM
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I believe it is pretty straight forward.

If you are going to do the change, then do:
brake fluid
rear diff
tranny fluid
oil

How are the brakes ? A lot of life left ? The OEM rotors are crazy expensive and I cannot find much choice for aftermarket brands for them.

Again, you should have your mechanic check out the front tires wear for any excessive wear on the inner tires.
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Old May 16, 2022 | 08:08 AM
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both of my front tires had this low speed blowout on local roads. Lucky me as I was about to go onto the highway too. The tires were at around 30,000km mark when this happened. After the tires were replaced, my MB dealer checked over my front wheel alignment and they were pretty well within factory spec. So, the dealer has no words on what happened to the tires in the end.
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Old May 16, 2022 | 10:16 AM
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Those tires are worn down to the bars, it makes sense they went.
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I know. But I am just showing the wear on the inner tire was excessive when compared the the outer side. Both tires were like that. This one was blown and the other one removed immediately and was probably a few hundreds km from being blown as well. Just to add one more note, the front tire pressure was put between 38-40 psi at the time.
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Old May 16, 2022 | 11:23 AM
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I like to look at older AMGs for sale - you can see them being sold with much higher mileage than that. AMGs can last a very long time. Just depends on maintenance and accident history.
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Originally Posted by bobblehead
I know. But I am just showing the wear on the inner tire was excessive when compared the the outer side. Both tires were like that. This one was blown and the other one removed immediately and was probably a few hundreds km from being blown as well. Just to add one more note, the front tire pressure was put between 38-40 psi at the time.
I just finished a recall on my 2021 E63S. The inspection performed at the conclusion of the software update showed even wear on the front tires with 9/32nds tread depth side to side. These are PS/4 A/S with about 9500 miles on them. I usually keep the suspension in Comfort mode, but the engine performance in Sport. I wonder if the inside tread wear was due to having the suspension in Sport mode which would increase the camber.

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Don’t really know. The tires were on their 3rd year of usage and with about 30,000km on the clock. I now have the Michelin a/s 4 and in the 2nd year of usage.

I don’t track my car at all and only do some spirited driving once in a while.

bottom line is I just hope the e63 owners will take a few minutes of the time to check theirs especially if they are 3 yrs old or older
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Congrats on the new car @RajivK

I replaced my Michelin PS4S at 9,000 miles (14,000km). I am glad that wasn't a more serious event...good on you to share it as a heads up for other members: check the full width of the tread for wear.
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I know. But I am just showing the wear on the inner tire was excessive when compared the the outer side. Both tires were like that. This one was blown and the other one removed immediately and was probably a few hundreds km from being blown as well. Just to add one more note, the front tire pressure was put between 38-40 psi at the time.
The issue is air pressure....at 10psi below the recommended cold fill levels, you were concentrating the weight on the inner portion of the contact patch, which generates wear and heat which ultimately led to your sidewall failure along the belt junction

I know its a "comfort" thing, but the s/w213 is a heavy car, and should have tires inflated as specified, which results in a somewhat stiff ride.
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The issue is air pressure....at 10psi below the recommended cold fill levels, you were concentrating the weight on the inner portion of the contact patch, which generates wear and heat which ultimately led to your sidewall failure along the belt junction

I know its a "comfort" thing, but the s/w213 is a heavy car, and should have tires inflated as specified, which results in a somewhat stiff ride.

I am saying my cold front was set at around 38-40 psi at the time, not when it was running and hot. There are lots of owners here are running around 40-42 cold psi, thus, I was not far off.

One quick google on "MB inner tire wear" will produce many hits, ranging from S class to our E class.

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Old May 16, 2022 | 04:16 PM
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Thank you guys for all the info, can you also play movies in the car? Or other things tips and tricks with the infotainment system?

I was thinking about Michelin PS5,
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You need aftermarket coding software for that.
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Old May 17, 2022 | 04:59 PM
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I hope I can find one here in the Netherlands, what is the infotainment called of MB?
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Yes hard to believe but OEM there is no longer Front Camber and Caster or Rear Camber !

Essential to adjust tire contact angles spread load more evenly. Besides costly, premature, tire wear excess edge load can also lead to higher impact, ruptured side walls, rim damage. Adjustment allows to cater for day to day commuting encountering high cambered roads, fitting low profile tires, wheel squat through load carrying or lowering or just having adjustment capability for curb knock damage.

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It’s all to do with cost cutting and the ever increasing speed of auto assembly lines.

We saw the need to re-instate once again from the early 90’s full Front and Rear adjustment.

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