Audy09

Hello,

I am a new member ! I recently purchased a new E53 coupe from an out of state dealership. I owned both an E 450 coupe and C43 AMG in the past. I was pretty excited to get the coupe with the PE exhaust. After watching plenty of Review videos of cars with PE exhaust, I was expecting some snaps, crackles and pops.

It has now been 1000k+ miles ( past the break in period) and the exhaust, even in Sport +, Exhaust in Powerful, the car does not produce any snaps or crackles. This has been pretty disappointing as this is one of the reasons I purchased the AMG variant of the car.

I have also tried to produce these sounds in Manuel shifting side between 3500 and 4200 RPM - I even gave my local Mercedes Dealer a call and was told " Mercedes cars are not made to make those sounds"

I also took the car to a local performance shop, I have an appointment to "Gut" the mufflers.

Any suggestion or insight as to what may be going on ? I don't know if due to emission laws in the EU if they nerfed the 2022 exhaust sound? that is my guess. Also what exhaust set-ups can someone suggest ?!


Thanks!

P.s. I also included a small clip of my car exhaust in Sport+, exhaust on powerful

ddcha

All these reports of quiet exhaust is getting me nervous. I have a '22 on order with the PE option.

bobblehead

If I google it, yours is pretty consistent with the others on YT.

compared to a E63S ....

Cylinder Head

iTrader: (1)

Noise regulations are crushing all of the FL cars and it's only going to get worse. There is extra sound deadening upstream from the PE, gutting the mufflers isn't going to get you what you want OP. Catless DP's will.

W205C43PFL

Another forum member posted this video of a MY22, the mic was placed outside beside the exhaust so it isn't the pumped in audio that got recorded: Since it has been reported that the entire North America doesn't get OPF, this should be the sound you are able to hear after break-in if you are located in those countries, I am not sure why OP's vehicle doesn't have pops and crackles other than the possibility of the vehicle learning the calm driving style during the break-in. Which means OP will need to put more miles in the sport+ drive program since OP is done the break-in and really open up the car, so the car learns to produce those sounds OP wanted to hear. Since pops and bangs are produced by the ECU, if for any reason there is a stored code, it would prevent them from happening as well to protect the vehicle or to prevent any damage.

ddcha

i hope you are correct.

Audy09

In my honest opinion, I wish I would of saved money on the PE. and spent the money on a aftermarket exhaust system. And to be clear... I am really looking for the snaps and crackles from the exhaust. I know this come from the ECU... Seems that this was changed for 2022.

Audy09

Here is a clip from E 53 . Notice the audible snap, cracks and Pops. That is more so what I am looking for and my understanding is that this come from the ECU mapping.

My current vehicle doesn't do this at all besides maybe the emotion start I also have a CLS 450 and I can hear the burble/snaps/cracks more than my AMG and it doesnt even have a sport exhaust..... :/

Audy09

That is what I am thinking too. Now my mission is to find out if cat-less down pipes will void my warranty.

Audy09

Great point. I tried to look into how to possibly reset the ECU but can not find too much information. I can say the first 1000 miles on the car was pretty calm. I am not an aggressive driver. Maybe a pull or two here and there....

I can get the car to make the (snap noises) on the emotion start-up. But not in regular driving.

I will give the dealer a call tomorrow to see if they can reset my ECU or give me a quick error read-out ( if there are any)

W205C43PFL

You did the right thing by driving the way you were when breaking-in, all you need to do now is since you are done breaking-in is to open the throttle more. Here is a 53 vehicle (but CLS) that is located in Germany yet despite the OPF, it has those pops and crackles, he even prefers it over the 63. One of the reasons why the vehicles you test drove or heard sound different to yours (especially from reviews on YouTube) is because they were probably "driven like they stole it" from the start, which is sad. So glad your vehicle is actually getting proper love by getting a proper break-in done.

MBS E53

I would bet on the answer being "YES" it will most certainly void your warranty.

W205C43PFL

Both of the videos I shared with you (the one with a E 53 located in Canada and the one with a CLS 53 located in Germany) are all 2022 models and have those pops and crackles so.... there is that...

W205C43PFL

By the way, MB really wants you to break-in the vehicle properly, there is a sticker on the windshield, and in the owner's manual I remember reading somewhere along the lines of "The more you take care of your engine when it is new, the more satisfied you are with the performance in the future"
So like I said, you did the right thing. Just that for some reason you haven't received your "reward" yet.

Dunkin9

I ordered a 2022 E53 AMG with the Performance Exhaust. Does that add any performance or just the "snap, crackle, and pop" sounds? If it's just the "snap, crackle, and pop" sounds I can live without that for $1250!

Thanks

ddcha

The PE option gives you a button on the center console where you can open or close the exhaust and control the sound.

Dunkin9

So it's just a button to change the sound but it doesn't really increase the power or performance of the car?

W205C43PFL

no, if you want performance gains you need to look at aftermarket solutions, the PE is a different exhaust to standard sports exhaust not just a button but it does not add horsepower, it does however add smiles when driving.

Audy09

Correct. As far as my understanding when I optioned the PE. Nothing was mentioned about an increase to HP or Torque. The PE is a valved exhaust system.

W205C43PFL

Here is an exhaust comparison provided by a forum member here: https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...58688c30fe.jpg
Here is a thread discussing the PE: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...aust-must.html

0002s

1.25 mile break in period and mine sounds like a box of Rice Crispy. Up shift, down shift, makes no difference in sports plus mode.

OP, you bought the car because you wanted the crackle and pop? Interesting.

TModelle

It doesn’t increase the power or performance of the car. Just a difference in sound.

Audy09

Hello Guys,

Thank you all for the support and feedback.

I wanted to provide 2 updates!

1. Just yesterday, my car started to produce snaps and some pops on up and down shifts pretty regularly. It seems that it happened all at once. Funny enough, it was on my way to a dealership to see what could be done about the lack of brubles and pops. I will include a link to a video I took yesterday. Although, it still isn't as loud as the other YouTube videos, I couldn't help but to smile. I still have some mods in mind for the exhaust. Muffler delete and maybe delete one of the cats.... we shall see.

2. The dealers in my area (Michigan) seems to be a joke. I was told once again. AMGs are not made to make snaps and pops on up and downshifts. Although, my car currently produce these sounds now. I didn't argue with the Foreman in the service shop. I did mentioned that I had a c43 that produces a nice exhaust note and was told it was because it had an aftermarket exhaust. He didn't know I had bought the car brand new with 5 miles on it....

Long story short ! Thank you all for being a great community. Far more reliable than my local dealer. !

racingmd

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ddcha

Good to hear! Nice Jordans.