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Old 05-25-2023, 07:38 PM
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I got the contract for the Mercedes First Protection and I'm going to pass. I was quoted CAD$4130 for 6 years. Some of the reasons for me passing:
Aftermarket tires and rims need to meet the manufacturer's sizes so why upgrade if not upsizing?
Metal plates and uneven roads due to construction are not covered and are not "road hazards"
There has to be structural damage to the tire and rim causing air loss
They won't cover cosmetic damage to a rim unless there is approved structural damage to the tire, and then cosmetic damage can only be sanded painted or refinishing without the need to apply an additive material or bend or straighten the rim. So no curb rash repairs unless it caused a flat too.
Won't cover cosmetic damage to tires
They won't guarantee paint match or cosmetic repair matching the other rims
Tires need a min tread depth at the lowest point at the time of damage

Pretty much it seems to only cover cracked rims. I haven't cracked one yet, I always bend them. Unless I'm missing something bent rims are not covered.
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It's hilarious because two different managers tried to upsell me and both used the wording "highly sought after" programs blah blah. I guess that's to be expected of course, heh.
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25% depreciation or roughly $1 per mile driven. These wagons are getting back to historical residual values.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...g-e63-s-wagon/
Old 05-26-2023, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
25% depreciation or roughly $1 per mile driven. These wagons are getting back to historical residual values.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...g-e63-s-wagon/
How did you figure out 25% depreciation? MSRP on a 2020 was around $109k my math is 12.5% after 3 yrs and a facelift....in my book that's pretty damn good.
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Per the link, $91k sold price/$127k sticker price = 28% depreciation

That doesn’t take into account cost for seller’s commission.

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Old 05-27-2023, 07:14 AM
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2 things - not sure 28% after 3 years is "bad". Not sure this car was representative of most.
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2 things - not sure 28% after 3 years is "bad". Not sure this car was representative of most.
Another way to look at "normal" is to reference the residual value of a leased vehicle. My 2021 E63S wagon has a contract residual value of 53% at the end of the 3 year lease or $76,553 and 36000 mile allowance. However, I suspect that the market value will be around $110,000 or 76.3% of original. Not too shabby for 3 years of ownership. Of course, the fact that the car has highly desirable options such as CCB brakes was not assessed by MBFS as adding to the value. I'll see what the market is in 6 months.

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Old 05-27-2023, 09:02 AM
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2 things - not sure 28% after 3 years is "bad". Not sure this car was representative of most.
Not bad at all. Approaching 'normal' depreciation.

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FWIW a FE sedan is on sale in the GTA. $198k CAD.
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Originally Posted by Strike1
FWIW a FE sedan is on sale in the GTA. $198k CAD.
What do you Canadians/AMG E63s Fraternity drive in the winter? $198K CAD is alot of Molsons.

Remember the salt during my campus years at Rochester eating thru my shoes and boots during the overcast gloomy winters. Underground Tunnels helped out some. The summers off Lake Ontario were glorious and the City of Toronto is a well kept secret. Last visit was the summer of 1983 in a Pontiac 6000 STE. GF at the time worked for Rochester Products and brought home fully instrumented test mules. Intend to visit Toronto again in an upcoming summer. Too bad Molson stopped brewing Brador. Ex GF is now a Xerox Exec but spends part of the year in sunny Scottsdale with her Father when working remotely.
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E63 all year long baby!
Throw snows on the AWD and drive around plebs like they’re pylons.
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Old 05-28-2023, 07:34 PM
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FWIW a FE sedan is on sale in the GTA. $198k CAD.
Is that the one at Mississauga?
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Originally Posted by Drone_S213
What do you Canadians/AMG E63s Fraternity drive in the winter? $198K CAD is alot of Molsons.

Remember the salt during my campus years at Rochester eating thru my shoes and boots during the overcast gloomy winters. Underground Tunnels helped out some. The summers off Lake Ontario were glorious and the City of Toronto is a well kept secret. Last visit was the summer of 1983 in a Pontiac 6000 STE. GF at the time worked for Rochester Products and brought home fully instrumented test mules. Intend to visit Toronto again in an upcoming summer. Too bad Molson stopped brewing Brador. Ex GF is now a Xerox Exec but spends part of the year in sunny Scottsdale with her Father when working remotely.
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E63 all year long baby!
Throw snows on the AWD and drive around plebs like they’re pylons.
Agree, you paid for it, you earned it, so you enjoy it all year long. https://globalnews.ca/video/4908779/...is-lamborghini

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That said though, I guess people buy Urus or Purosangue for this reason... so they can enjoy it all year long while bringing family members onboard as well?
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Not sure why that was even a news story. It is a very common sights in Toronto area.
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Originally Posted by bobblehead
Not sure why that was even a news story. It is a very common sights in Toronto area.
Maybe I am in the wrong place in the wrong time all the time but I don't see exotics in the winter like that.
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Maybe I am in the wrong place in the wrong time all the time but I don't see exotics in the winter like that.
Lots in north york … yonge shepherd to yonge steeles. All driven by young Chinese
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Lots in north york … yonge shepherd to yonge steeles. All driven by young Chinese
Hmmm I guess I am in the wrong place at the wrong time after all, I frequent there in the winter and don't see them.
They at least put proper winter tires on, right? Hopefully?
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
E63 all year long baby!
Throw snows on the AWD and drive around plebs like they’re pylons.
You're a better man than I for certain. Driving a 210,000 CAD vehicle with the salt, sand, etc on winter roads, to me, is incredible. Add to the road conditions those 4-wheel crazies who drive recklessly in the frozen stuff and you have all of the ingredients of a disaster waiting to happen. Of course, you have CCB'S and they'll get destroyed by the sand and debris for certain. Good luck with the winter driving .
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Originally Posted by HBerman
You're a better man than I for certain. Driving a 210,000 CAD vehicle with the salt, sand, etc on winter roads, to me, is incredible. Add to the road conditions those 4-wheel crazies who drive recklessly in the frozen stuff and you have all of the ingredients of a disaster waiting to happen. Of course, you have CCB'S and they'll get destroyed by the sand and debris for certain. Good luck with the winter driving .
Well.... I think I understand your point but then there are these people that does it with RWD cars:
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Hmmm I guess I am in the wrong place at the wrong time after all, I frequent there in the winter and don't see them.
They at least put proper winter tires on, right? Hopefully?
I guess so. $ cannot buy brains for yhose that drive their lambo with summer tires on in -10 degree temperatures
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Originally Posted by bobblehead
I guess so. $ cannot buy brains for yhose that drive their lambo with summer tires on in -10 degree temperatures
Or drive with summer tires on their E63S at 0 degrees C.
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I guess so. $ cannot buy brains for yhose that drive their lambo with summer tires on in -10 degree temperatures
Unfortunately they are lazy (cuz I doubt they can't afford proper snows) like that, I don't know about you I seen lots of GLE 53 drivers around with stock summer performance tires during the winter, they think they can do whatever they want because they have an SUVs.... ugh. Then there are also many MB SUV drivers with the all-seasons (which is at least better but nothing beats a dedicated pair of winters).
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