TheVazha

Who makes the best cold air intake for these cars? From the big name brands, Kleemann/Renntech/Brabus, do any of them have a good product? I want something blingy.

TheVazha

Look at this thing from Dinan for the X5M, it looks insane. Does anyone make something like this for us?

5soko

Not much for this platform in terms of high quality bling, prob Arma's carbon intake i would look into.

kponti

PTG just came out with a new intake. It looks pretty good as well if you want carbon fiber.
BlackBoost has an intake that makes decent power for a much more reasonable cost of you aren't specifically looking for carbon fiber.

5soko

This CTS intake system is extremely promising, great price point and option to use the stock cover or not.

https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...intake-system/

skim7x

PTG

Cylinder Head

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PTG's looks the best, I don't know if it is the best yet.

TheVazha

Spoke to Renntech and their version is coming in two months. I put my name in the list for a set. They have no marketing/data on them yet but will be just in time for Christmas.

kvirikadzed

I’m considering one
https://www.zacmotorsport.com/collec...s/w213-e63-amg

WIKDWGN

That looks like it may actually make less power than the stock box. Not much protection against the under hood heat. Hot air isn’t good for making power

TheVazha

100%. nothing more infuriating than open filters inside an engine bay calling it “cold air” intake. Biggest marketing bs and people east it up like Candy. You’re quite literally taking the hottest air possible right into your motor.

scoops to outside air to filter is the way.

kponti

Another hot air intake, without a seal to the hood, it is pulling in hot air

5soko

lets be honest, all these open cone filters can be considers hot air intakes.
I have datalogged enough W213's to have seen, the 'seal' really doesn't make much of a difference lol
For half the price of blackboost, this is a great addition to any guys who want a intake setup to make some noises, competition always benefits us customers.

skim7x

Correct me if I'm wrong, but IMO, an upgraded intake isn't much use unless you have upgraded turbos.

I just have upgraded panel filters and called it a day until I get the PTG's... a nice closed system.

5soko

100%, I usually tell guys throw in some filters in the stock box and call it a day.
Even Most tuned M177’s dont run too much wastegate duty cycle in logs, flow in general is good.

kponti

I won't question data logging results. Did you see any differences between stock and any kind of cone filter intake system? The preturbo heating part I mean

5soko

I find it fun lol drive around with a laptop on the passenger seat looking at IAT's.

At idle, or red light situations, there was a touch higher delta with the open cone while things just heatsoaked.
The M177 on the E63 has a great intake setup from factory. Its ram air right into the boxes and from there directly into the turbos, there is about a foot of air travel from ambient air, to the turbos. Gives the air less time to heat up with such a short path of travel, and of course response.

Compare to say the M157, there is about, 5-6 feet of travel time from where the ambient air begins its travel, to the time it gets to the turbo, that ambient air passes alot of heatsoaked parts including a 2-3 foot metal pipe that sits in the front of the engine collecting heat.

On the move, 30+ MPH, most of these systems are getting slammed by ambient air, whether stock or open cone, because of the ram air effect from the factory setup.

TheVazha

That's a great explanation and makes perfect sense. So basically carbon air box on this is for bling (like with most other carbon air boxes lol).

What would you say is the best filter to get more air into the engine or is it even necessary?

Ed99

Anyone else have these and what is your thoughts on them? Definitely a great bang for the buck vs other systems out there asking well over $1600 USD for minimal power gains.

ska597

They claim (without evidence) that it actually makes power without a tune. What’s nice is that you can use the factory engine cover which should prevent some of that heat soak. Too bad it’s sold out.

Ed99

Definite a huge plus when you can retain using the original engine cover. Won't be surprised that they are sold out for that price of under $500 USD. Can't beat that anywhere else!!!

Fungoul

Renntech

cts

Stk

ska597

You‘ve had all of these? Which did you prefer?

ska597

https://www.urotuning.com/products/c...yABEgIsw_D_BwE

Apparently they’re still available here if you’re interested.

Fungoul

i have them all stock edition 1, cts on gray stage 1 and renntech on black stage 2