“Cold Air” intake
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“Cold Air” intake
Who makes the best cold air intake for these cars? From the big name brands, Kleemann/Renntech/Brabus, do any of them have a good product? I want something blingy. 
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PTG just came out with a new intake. It looks pretty good as well if you want carbon fiber.
BlackBoost has an intake that makes decent power for a much more reasonable cost of you aren't specifically looking for carbon fiber.
BlackBoost has an intake that makes decent power for a much more reasonable cost of you aren't specifically looking for carbon fiber.
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This CTS intake system is extremely promising, great price point and option to use the stock cover or not.
https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...intake-system/
https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...intake-system/
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Spoke to Renntech and their version is coming in two months. I put my name in the list for a set. They have no marketing/data on them yet but will be just in time for Christmas.
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Zac performance makes nice ones
I’m considering one
https://www.zacmotorsport.com/collec...s/w213-e63-amg
https://www.zacmotorsport.com/collec...s/w213-e63-amg
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I’m considering one
https://www.zacmotorsport.com/collec...s/w213-e63-amg
https://www.zacmotorsport.com/collec...s/w213-e63-amg
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scoops to outside air to filter is the way.
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This CTS intake system is extremely promising, great price point and option to use the stock cover or not.
https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...intake-system/
https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...intake-system/
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I have datalogged enough W213's to have seen, the 'seal' really doesn't make much of a difference lol
For half the price of blackboost, this is a great addition to any guys who want a intake setup to make some noises, competition always benefits us customers.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but IMO, an upgraded intake isn't much use unless you have upgraded turbos.
I just have upgraded panel filters and called it a day until I get the PTG's... a nice closed system.
I just have upgraded panel filters and called it a day until I get the PTG's... a nice closed system.
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100%, I usually tell guys throw in some filters in the stock box and call it a day.
Even Most tuned M177’s dont run too much wastegate duty cycle in logs, flow in general is good.
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lets be honest, all these open cone filters can be considers hot air intakes.
I have datalogged enough W213's to have seen, the 'seal' really doesn't make much of a difference lol
For half the price of blackboost, this is a great addition to any guys who want a intake setup to make some noises, competition always benefits us customers.
I have datalogged enough W213's to have seen, the 'seal' really doesn't make much of a difference lol
For half the price of blackboost, this is a great addition to any guys who want a intake setup to make some noises, competition always benefits us customers.
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At idle, or red light situations, there was a touch higher delta with the open cone while things just heatsoaked.
The M177 on the E63 has a great intake setup from factory. Its ram air right into the boxes and from there directly into the turbos, there is about a foot of air travel from ambient air, to the turbos. Gives the air less time to heat up with such a short path of travel, and of course response.
Compare to say the M157, there is about, 5-6 feet of travel time from where the ambient air begins its travel, to the time it gets to the turbo, that ambient air passes alot of heatsoaked parts including a 2-3 foot metal pipe that sits in the front of the engine collecting heat.
On the move, 30+ MPH, most of these systems are getting slammed by ambient air, whether stock or open cone, because of the ram air effect from the factory setup.
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I find it fun lol drive around with a laptop on the passenger seat looking at IAT's.
At idle, or red light situations, there was a touch higher delta with the open cone while things just heatsoaked.
The M177 on the E63 has a great intake setup from factory. Its ram air right into the boxes and from there directly into the turbos, there is about a foot of air travel from ambient air, to the turbos. Gives the air less time to heat up with such a short path of travel, and of course response.
Compare to say the M157, there is about, 5-6 feet of travel time from where the ambient air begins its travel, to the time it gets to the turbo, that ambient air passes alot of heatsoaked parts including a 2-3 foot metal pipe that sits in the front of the engine collecting heat.
On the move, 30+ MPH, most of these systems are getting slammed by ambient air, whether stock or open cone, because of the ram air effect from the factory setup.
At idle, or red light situations, there was a touch higher delta with the open cone while things just heatsoaked.
The M177 on the E63 has a great intake setup from factory. Its ram air right into the boxes and from there directly into the turbos, there is about a foot of air travel from ambient air, to the turbos. Gives the air less time to heat up with such a short path of travel, and of course response.
Compare to say the M157, there is about, 5-6 feet of travel time from where the ambient air begins its travel, to the time it gets to the turbo, that ambient air passes alot of heatsoaked parts including a 2-3 foot metal pipe that sits in the front of the engine collecting heat.
On the move, 30+ MPH, most of these systems are getting slammed by ambient air, whether stock or open cone, because of the ram air effect from the factory setup.
What would you say is the best filter to get more air into the engine or is it even necessary?
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This CTS intake system is extremely promising, great price point and option to use the stock cover or not.
https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...intake-system/
https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...intake-system/
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They claim (without evidence) that it actually makes power without a tune. What’s nice is that you can use the factory engine cover which should prevent some of that heat soak. Too bad it’s sold out.
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Definite a huge plus when you can retain using the original engine cover. Won't be surprised that they are sold out for that price of under $500 USD. Can't beat that anywhere else!!!
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Apparently they’re still available here if you’re interested.
