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Old 06-28-2023, 02:09 PM
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To be fair, the Lexus dealership has less cars in the service bay to fix.... okay just a joke guys just a joke.

Anyways, for those who are experiencing this issue hopefully coil replacements fixes it and remains fixed.
I am batting 1.000 (2/2) on coils replacement. lol.
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I am batting 1.000 (2/2) on coils replacement. lol.
Unless I missed it but does the new coil have a new part number? It better be right?
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I am confused why the code doesn't get stored in the car even if the CEL turns off. It should go from Active codes to Stored codes.
I am pretty sure they just made it up to refuse service on an intermittent CEL issue. Second time they admitted it was a bad coil and replaced it. Car drives fine now. Part #177-906-02-06 in case anyone was wondering.
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177-906-02-06 that's the part # shown

Online MB parts stores say ...
  • Replaces:177-906-03-00, 177-906-05-00, 177-906-42-02, 177-906-95-00

So, it does look like that is the latest.
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I am pretty sure they just made it up to refuse service on an intermittent CEL issue. Second time they admitted it was a bad coil and replaced it. Car drives fine now. Part #177-906-02-06 in case anyone was wondering.
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177-906-02-06 that's the part # shown

Online MB parts stores say ...
  • Replaces:177-906-03-00, 177-906-05-00, 177-906-42-02, 177-906-95-00

So, it does look like that is the latest.
Thank you both.
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While my car was in the first time, SA said initially, it was a bad coil. Later, I texted and asked about replacing all the coils seemed to be common practice. Because when one failed, it said another would probably go bad too. SA said MB will only warranty the one coil that was bad. After all that, SA said it was a bad fuel injection module that was replaced and car was ready. Picked the car up and two days later, car spits and sputters and dies on me again. In traffic !! Limped back again, to dealership. This time SA says it needs a new fuel pump. Car has been sitting now for about a week waiting on parts. It’s been really disappointing. Average to poor reliability and a service dept. that probably has no idea how fix my issue. Thought I bought a keeper, but not the case. No confidence in the car or the brand !! I’ll be replacing the car ASAP. All this, on a 21 with 5300 miles.

if it’s fuel pump, i just saw this today …

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/m...ed-217340.html

production dates range from June 1, 2021 to November 30, 2022

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The last diagnosis from my SA was a new fuel pump. Unfortunately, fuel pump requires a new seal / gasket. Which I’m told, is on back order. So, my wagon sits and waits out in the back lot collecting crap from the elements. I’m a lucky I’ve had a loaner, but this has become a very protracted fix. It’s sad that I can’t enjoy the car while weather is nice. Disappointing.
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The last diagnosis from my SA was a new fuel pump. Unfortunately, fuel pump requires a new seal / gasket. Which I’m told, is on back order. So, my wagon sits and waits out in the back lot collecting crap from the elements. I’m a lucky I’ve had a loaner, but this has become a very protracted fix. It’s sad that I can’t enjoy the car while weather is nice. Disappointing.
Depending on how long it takes I think you could get them to reimburse you a month of payment, hopefully it doesn't take a month though.
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if it’s fuel pump, i just saw this today …

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/m...ed-217340.html

production dates range from June 1, 2021 to November 30, 2022
Definitely a lot of models: https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur...rchResult&pg=0
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Interesting that only 6 E63S vehicles were affected! I wonder why since production wasn't stopped.
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Interesting that only 6 E63S vehicles were affected! I wonder why since production wasn't stopped.
Hmmm I didn't even notice that, certainly interesting. I must had missed it, where did you find that?
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Hmmm I didn't even notice that, certainly interesting. I must had missed it, where did you find that?
There's a .PDF link at the bottom of that news article, I'll link it here: https://www.autoevolution.com/pdf/ne...ted-217340.pdf
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There's a .PDF link at the bottom of that news article, I'll link it here: https://www.autoevolution.com/pdf/ne...ted-217340.pdf
Thanks, I mean affected Canadian vehicles, but good data point nonetheless.
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I'd like to know that too. I wonder if Mercedes or Transport Canada will release those #'s.

Side note, I ran my VIN on the Mercedes recall website, says not affected, in case anyone (in Canada) is curious to check their own.

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I'd like to know that too. I wonder if Mercedes or Transport Canada will release those #'s.

Side note, I ran my VIN on the Mercedes recall website, says not affected, in case anyone (in Canada) is curious to check their own.
Good idea thanks, MBUSA also has the same site as well. Another alternative source would be https://www.carfax.ca/recall-check for Canada as well and I believe USA also have one from carfax.
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I only have 1,400 km on my 2023 and sometimes the idle is so lumpy and rough I thought it was just some stupid 4cyl thing then remembered this thread. When I forget to turn start/stop off, when it starts again by itself when still stopped at a light or something or when I remember to hit the stop/start off button when it starts itself again before I go it is really lumpy until I go - occasionally it smooths out if I sit long enough. Is this the same thing? Should I bug my dealer already? I'm only 100km away from my first Dragy! Egads. LOL.
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Same on mine. Dunno what it is. I feel like it's the dynamic engine mounts, as though they take a few seconds to adjust when coming to a stop to smooth out the engine vibration in idle.

The auto start/stop is definitely rougher than the 3L V6 in my GLC.
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I get that slight "lumpy" idle feeling sometimes too, but I don't think it's anything significant like others' complaints about rough idle. It is noticeable when it occurs but not dramatic like I imagine these real complaints are. Then again I'm being purely subjective in my judgment so who knows.
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I've not experienced any of this with my 2021. It has 10,000 miles and has always idled smoothly. I always turn off the start/stop function so I don't know if that occurs with mine.
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I've not experienced any of this with my 2021. It has 10,000 miles and has always idled smoothly. I always turn off the start/stop function so I don't know if that occurs with mine.
I only notice it with stop start until I remember to turn it off. I'll eventually get used to turning it off as part of getting in the car. What a useless "feature". I bet our engines just LOVE starting with zero oil pressure over and over and over and over
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I only notice it with stop start until I remember to turn it off. I'll eventually get used to turning it off as part of getting in the car. What a useless "feature". I bet our engines just LOVE starting with zero oil pressure over and over and over and over
I suppose having the function satisfies someone or some silly requirement. My thought is that it is an unnecessary burden on the starter. For those that daily drive in city traffic that starter has to be used repeatedly. Seems that there would be ten times the use, and that would surely add up over time.

My other concern is that it will stop and not start back up again Probably a small chance, but with my luck the odds go up exponentially.
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This has become a rather tedious and quite protracted issue. Going on week # 4 waiting on back ordered parts for my wagon. A 2021 with 5300 miles and they can’t get a part ?? They sure don’t have any problem pumping new ones out for huge mark ups!! I tried to see what they would give me for the wagon, as I found a Cadillac Blackwing, that wasn’t marked up. But, the MB dealership, where my car has been sitting for 30 days, never called me back. Really crappy service on both ends of the court. Can’t get my car back, nor can I get a number on my wagon to trade out of it. Even if I took a haircut, which I’m sure I would. Long story short, Caddy got sniped up immediately. So, I texted sales and said forget trying to get a number on the wagon, it seemed to be like an act of Congress for them and they would have only added insult to missing out on the Caddy. Two calls to MB USA, per the service manager’s suggestion and have never heard a word back either. I think my next car will not be a MB.
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