Winter tire setup
#51
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That's gotta feel good, not factoring idiot drivers. Funny how braking is really the key IMO.
I opted from MB Winter Package, but went offset setup since its El Nino in MI except for the past week. I figured if it stayed warmer and dry, I'd appreciate a little more girth and if it sucked I could always get a pair to make it square.
Haven't taken it out into the tundra yet, but will report back. Probably should have just gone with square but figured what the hell...
More reporting to come soon.
End of the day, it's all about making it functional AND fun, right?
I opted from MB Winter Package, but went offset setup since its El Nino in MI except for the past week. I figured if it stayed warmer and dry, I'd appreciate a little more girth and if it sucked I could always get a pair to make it square.
Haven't taken it out into the tundra yet, but will report back. Probably should have just gone with square but figured what the hell...
More reporting to come soon.
End of the day, it's all about making it functional AND fun, right?
#52
That's gotta feel good, not factoring idiot drivers. Funny how braking is really the key IMO.
I opted from MB Winter Package, but went offset setup since its El Nino in MI except for the past week. I figured if it stayed warmer and dry, I'd appreciate a little more girth and if it sucked I could always get a pair to make it square.
Haven't taken it out into the tundra yet, but will report back. Probably should have just gone with square but figured what the hell...
More reporting to come soon.
End of the day, it's all about making it functional AND fun, right?
I opted from MB Winter Package, but went offset setup since its El Nino in MI except for the past week. I figured if it stayed warmer and dry, I'd appreciate a little more girth and if it sucked I could always get a pair to make it square.
Haven't taken it out into the tundra yet, but will report back. Probably should have just gone with square but figured what the hell...
More reporting to come soon.
End of the day, it's all about making it functional AND fun, right?
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#55
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#56
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Yes, that's the size on rears. Fronts are 265/40r19. I was not very impressed with aftermarket options and additional fitment complications, in part due to time constraints. Tires are PA4s and have the 'MO' logo. They showed up to the dealership mounted/balanced with TPMS ready to go. My local dealer handles swaps/storage for a small fee, so this was an easy button for me. I also like the the look of these AMG rims for off-season use. It really comes down to time vs money and there are obviously cheaper options. Winters in Michigan on my OE rims was NOT happening. (IT Guy might be running the same but square, his photos helped a ton)
Hope this helps?
Hope this helps?
#57
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Yes, that's the size on rears. Fronts are 265/40r19. I was not very impressed with aftermarket options and additional fitment complications, in part due to time constraints. Tires are PA4s and have the 'MO' logo. They showed up to the dealership mounted/balanced with TPMS ready to go. My local dealer handles swaps/storage for a small fee, so this was an easy button for me. I also like the the look of these AMG rims for off-season use. It really comes down to time vs money and there are obviously cheaper options. Winters in Michigan on my OE rims was NOT happening. (IT Guy might be running the same but square, his photos helped a ton)
Hope this helps?
Hope this helps?
My soul hurts a little bit with the smaller 265 rear tires. I tell myself narrower is better for snow, but is it really?! My inner Joe-Dirt is sad.
Congrats, they look great.
Last edited by I.T. Guy; 02-02-2024 at 09:59 AM.
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#58
How do the Michelin Alpins fare in the shoulder months or warm dry days (50-65F or 10-18C) in terms of handling and comfort/noise? Just curious because I live in SoCal and I drive up to the mountains in the winter but to get there, I'm driving in sunny and dry ~60F temps until I arrive in the mountain wintry weather.
Last edited by wildta; 02-02-2024 at 10:07 AM.
#59
Yes, that's the size on rears. Fronts are 265/40r19. I was not very impressed with aftermarket options and additional fitment complications, in part due to time constraints. Tires are PA4s and have the 'MO' logo. They showed up to the dealership mounted/balanced with TPMS ready to go. My local dealer handles swaps/storage for a small fee, so this was an easy button for me. I also like the the look of these AMG rims for off-season use. It really comes down to time vs money and there are obviously cheaper options. Winters in Michigan on my OE rims was NOT happening. (IT Guy might be running the same but square, his photos helped a ton)
Hope this helps?
Hope this helps?
I'm actually ordering a staggered set with summer tires for more side wall but getting summer performance.
@wgnlust can I ask what you paid at the dealer for the set? I'm deciding whether to buy new or used.
Thanks!
#60
Junior Member
I generally drive a little more conservative with winter shoes on, at least in corners. I had a bit of driving today, some highway and some back roads. Noise isn't noticeably different than the Pirelli crap that came on my car. Upper 80s was very comfy with no noticeable hum. A little more meat with the 19s in comfort mode given Michigan winter road conditions is definitely a plus... can't avoid every hole when I'm in traffic.
#61
Junior Member
they look really great. I have the square setup like ITGuy and staggered looks much better with extra tire beef!
I'm actually ordering a staggered set with summer tires for more side wall but getting summer performance.
@wgnlust can I ask what you paid at the dealer for the set? I'm deciding whether to buy new or used.
Thanks!
I'm actually ordering a staggered set with summer tires for more side wall but getting summer performance.
@wgnlust can I ask what you paid at the dealer for the set? I'm deciding whether to buy new or used.
Thanks!
@maxswede It was $5200 out the door at my dealership for the set. They charge $100 for swap and storage, so that included hiding my summer set somewhere.
#62
Senior Member
Michelin Alpins are on their third winter on my GLB. I don't see any problem driving in 50-65F weather as we are having mild winters last a few years in NYC. Also I drove in 70-80F with no problems during Fall/Spring temp swings. They are softer tires than the PS AS4 so more comfortable to drive. Even a coworker who switched to CrossClimates on his Tesla found them softer than the previous regular A/S tires.
How do the Michelin Alpins fare in the shoulder months or warm dry days (50-65F or 10-18C) in terms of handling and comfort/noise? Just curious because I live in SoCal and I drive up to the mountains in the winter but to get there, I'm driving in sunny and dry ~60F temps until I arrive in the mountain wintry weather.
#63
Michelin Alpins are on their third winter on my GLB. I don't see any problem driving in 50-65F weather as we are having mild winters last a few years in NYC. Also I drove in 70-80F with no problems during Fall/Spring temp swings. They are softer tires than the PS AS4 so more comfortable to drive. Even a coworker who switched to CrossClimates on his Tesla found them softer than the previous regular A/S tires.
#64
Senior Member
Comfort is top rated per tyrereview review. His scoring table:
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre-Tes...-Tyre-Test.htm
Tire rack also put the noise at best in their comparison:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=284
My comparison to Conti 6 summer tires and Michelin PS AS 4, Alpin 5 is more comfortable and might be even less noisy esp when there is coarse asphalts surface. The performance was good when I tested up to 90mph on dry roads, but of course they are not responsive as the summer / AS UHP tires. On frozen wet road after a cold night, they are much better than PS AS 4 and wet braking is comparable...
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre-Tes...-Tyre-Test.htm
Tire rack also put the noise at best in their comparison:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=284
My comparison to Conti 6 summer tires and Michelin PS AS 4, Alpin 5 is more comfortable and might be even less noisy esp when there is coarse asphalts surface. The performance was good when I tested up to 90mph on dry roads, but of course they are not responsive as the summer / AS UHP tires. On frozen wet road after a cold night, they are much better than PS AS 4 and wet braking is comparable...
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#66
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How do the Michelin Alpins fare in the shoulder months or warm dry days (50-65F or 10-18C) in terms of handling and comfort/noise? Just curious because I live in SoCal and I drive up to the mountains in the winter but to get there, I'm driving in sunny and dry ~60F temps until I arrive in the mountain wintry weather.
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#67
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I generally drive a little more conservative with winter shoes on, at least in corners. I had a bit of driving today, some highway and some back roads. Noise isn't noticeably different than the Pirelli crap that came on my car. Upper 80s was very comfy with no noticeable hum. A little more meat with the 19s in comfort mode given Michigan winter road conditions is definitely a plus... can't avoid every hole when I'm in traffic.
It’s been mixed weather in Michigan. When the weather is total crap, I don’t generally drive the wagon. The past week has been a crazy combo of weather, but I wanted to have fun.
Somewhat mixed, freezing with some black ice: offset setup was fine, even at highway pace - but mindful driving.
Dry pavement, cold to 50s plus: very happy to have the offset, but the 19s are very spongy compared to the 20s with any maneuvers/spirited driving.
Current opinion: MB winter setup is great. No regrets with the offset vs square. Feels very soft on warmer days. I think I’ll get a second set for rears to do square setup if it’s a more typical winter, but that feels a little like a casino.
Not disappointed with the decision to go offset winters THIS year. Kicking the radiator is fun, but corners feel like I’m throwing twenty’s out the window by leaving tiny bits of my investment on the roadside.
For what it’s worth.
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@LMinn hows your setup working out for you?