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What are you lowered on? Has anyone used these lowering links?
Hey guys, has anyone used these lowering links on their e63? I have used these on my Tesla model s without an issue and am contemplating using them on the e63. Any info and thoughts would be appreciated. https://www.ebay.com/itm/313031947805
Depending upon what year your E63 is (COMAND or MBUX), I'd suggest you go with an electronic module for lowering. Doing it electronically allows you to quickly and easily make adjustments whenever you want without tools, takes seconds.
CETE module for an MBUX system no need to flash the module and everything is controlled by the mm on your device. Very simple to install and connect to via bluetooth.
CETE module for an MBUX system no need to flash the module and everything is controlled by the mm on your device. Very simple to install and connect to via bluetooth.
do you have a link of one? Would there be a way for dealership to know this was done?
why tho? also the links are $100 and the module is $1000. whats the advantage of it?
You get what you pay for. The links are cheap chinese junk that will ultimately fail and only work to fool your suspension's sensors. They are imprecise, and you are messing with a $100k car's suspension. The module actually reprograms the height and is infinitely adjustable without having to put the car on a lift and redo all four corners. I pop a module in and can change my ride height front or rear by the millimeter.
Is your car PFL or FL? If it's PFL, the vlad module is $500 or so. Otherwise the CETE module is your best bet.
Pay to play, I've spent more than that getting my taillights to be the exact right tint.
Depending upon what year your E63 is (COMAND or MBUX), I'd suggest you go with an electronic module for lowering. Doing it electronically allows you to quickly and easily make adjustments whenever you want without tools, takes seconds.
spending 0 on lowering, then using that money on other mods is maybe a option as you will stop playing with lowering within a month
99% of the users end up setting it to Euro specs or slightly more
lower will very likely mess up your car long term
Last edited by BenzNinja; Nov 29, 2023 at 04:10 AM.
Reality is there is no longer Camber or Caster to adjust !
WITH EVER INCREASING SPEED OF NEW CAR ASSEMBLY LINES IT HAS BEEN DELETED. Now only one “showroom height Camber (and Caster) position.
THE OFTEN QUOTED REASSURING “We will carry out a full Front & Rear ‘4’ wheel alignment!!”
….IS IN FACT ONLY “TOE” (directional adjustment).
No Camber to change tire contact angles, spread load more evenly. Excess edge load can also lead to higher impact ruptured side walls.
We saw the need therefore to re instate Front Camber and Caster. Rear Camber (& extra Toe).
Designed to fit without special tools or need for arm removal. The K-MAC patented design allows precise single wrench adjustment. ULTIMATE - direct on alignment rack “UNDER LOAD”
SEE SPOILER
AUDI to VOLVO - K-MAC Experience Of Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings Since 1964 !
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ALL MODEL W213
FRONT SUSPENSION (Lower Arm Inner Bushings).
E200-350 #502816-1i $345
Camber only (less cost then one Performance Tire).
#502816K $480
Camber & Caster
E43, 53, 63, E220-450 4MATIC #503416-1i $345
Camber only
#503416K $480
Camber & Caster
Caster bushes are also Monoball / Self aligning significantly improving brake and steering response.
REAR SUSPENSION (Lower Arm Inner Bushings).
Coil suspension #502226K $480
AIRMATIC #502326K $480
AMG/S Models #502326-1K $480
FRONT & REAR - No special tools, fit without need for arm removal.
Reality is there is no longer Camber or Caster to adjust !
WITH EVER INCREASING SPEED OF NEW CAR ASSEMBLY LINES IT HAS BEEN DELETED. Now only one “showroom height Camber (and Caster) position.
THE OFTEN QUOTED REASSURING “We will carry out a full Front & Rear ‘4’ wheel alignment!!”
….IS IN FACT ONLY “TOE” (directional adjustment).
No Camber to change tire contact angles, spread load more evenly. Excess edge load can also lead to higher impact ruptured side walls.
We saw the need therefore to re instate Front Camber and Caster. Rear Camber (& extra Toe).
Designed to fit without special tools or need for arm removal. The K-MAC patented design allows precise single wrench adjustment. ULTIMATE - direct on alignment rack “UNDER LOAD”
SEE SPOILER
AUDI to VOLVO - K-MAC Experience Of Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings Since 1964 !
Spoiler
ALL MODEL W213
FRONT SUSPENSION (Lower Arm Inner Bushings).
E200-350 #502816-1i $345
Camber only (less cost then one Performance Tire).
#502816K $480
Camber & Caster
E43, 53, 63, E220-450 4MATIC #503416-1i $345
Camber only
#503416K $480
Camber & Caster
Caster bushes are also Monoball / Self aligning significantly improving brake and steering response.
REAR SUSPENSION (Lower Arm Inner Bushings).
Coil suspension #502226K $480
AIRMATIC #502326K $480
AMG/S Models #502326-1K $480
FRONT & REAR - No special tools, fit without need for arm removal.
Spoiler
Other than correcting caster/camber do these have any effect on ride? Stiffer bushings, etc?
There have been several threads where BenzNinja participated and he has repeatedly demonstrated he's not really someone most people would want to do business with. The best thing is to just put him on your ignore list.
There have been several threads where BenzNinja participated and he has repeatedly demonstrated he's not really someone most people would want to do business with. The best thing is to just put him on your ignore list.
Great idea, the endless image spam and BS was enough for me
Other than correcting caster/camber do these have any effect on ride? Stiffer bushings, etc?
Besides background info re bushings ride / stiffness do point out constantly designing / updating and latest design breakthrough is that all kits now - no special tools required or need for time consuming arm removal re fitment !
Bushings that effect ride stiffness are the Front forward facing thrust arm bushes. OEM are large 75mm diameter incorporating rubber and internal oil reservoir allowing arms to oscillate / travel through their required suspension arcs without binding, locking up.
Majority of aftermarket brands replace these bushes with urethane - improving brake and steering response but the consequence is exceptionally firm ride through above mentioned binding / locking up of arms, through lack of being able to self align.
K-MAC design replaces the OEM bushes (on car) and incorporates precise “Caster adjustment” for the first time. Bushes are also Mono ball / 2 Axis / Self aligning with extra large impact, surface area.
Owner feedback is significant improvement to brake and steering response but without undue ride harshness. With situations in competition racing where “Race Safety Scrutineers” stipulate only K-MAC bushings allowed to be fitted !
I wont be racing, this is a street vehicle. So will your caster/camber kit make it ride rougher and increase conducted road noise/vibration or not?
As above - not the rear (Camber and Toe) kit or the front Camber kit. Yes the separate front kit that “also includes Caster” - these forward facing bushes do effect / is noticeable but as pointed out being Mono ball / Self aligning owner feedback (now in production refined over last 25 years) is positive re no undue harshness and the benefits of the tauter steering response whether heavy ‘S’ Series AMG W222 models or a lightweight CLA.
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